Good Bye to Nursing for me... - page 8
Well, the start of a new year and I'm kissing nursing good bye after only 5 short months. I graduated in may and started at a hospital in august. My very first preceptor was a nightmare, on my... Read More
Jan 6, '07Occupation: Assessment Nurse Specialty: 39 year(s) of experience in Case Management, Home Health, UM ; Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 2,611; Likes: 940Definitely keep your license up. I plan on keeping mine active until the day I die. A lot of effort and heartache went into that little wallet-sized piece of paper!
Jan 6, '07Joined: Jun '06; Posts: 34; Likes: 4I would really have to disagree with those trying to put the burden on you. I think toxic work environments in nursing are the rule, not the exception. However, as a nurse, we are expected to tolerate this and accept this. I think, chances are, that you have been given a bad lot in each of these situation and don't have thick enough skin to deal with it. The bottom line is that you shouldn't have to deal with it. If a preceptor was worth anything then they would find a gentle way to let you know that you have a problem, or to gently steer you out of nursing if indeed you just aren't going to cut it. Nurses deal compassionately with very difficult situations on a daily basis, yet will approach a new nurse with such crassness and righteous indignation every time they make a small error - this is not teaching. Imagine how screwed up we all would be right now if our grade school teachers called us out and made us feel worthless everytime we made a mistake. Problem is many nurses are terrible teachers. A good teacher has a love of knowledge and genuine wish to pass it on. Most (not all) preceptors do it for the extra money or because it is expected of them - not because they truly want to.
All this translates into making a very bad profession to enter into. I have been out of school 6 months and I am in my second hospital. I left my first hospital because I couldn't stand the people i was working with. My performance was fine, I was pleaded with not to resign - but I just hated it. I have since moved into a great hospital, like the work and even thought I liked the people. However, I was pulled into my managers office the other day and she had the intention of firing me. Turns out that various day shift nurses (I work nights)have been complaining they felt I was practicing unsafe or not taking the effort to do things right. I offered to resign with no hard feelings but asked for specific problems I had so that I could correct them in the future. We reviewed each one and I identified in each case why I acted as I did, and produced policy to back it or demonstrated there was no policy and that my actions were still prudent and in accordance with standard nursing practice. The end result was the Nurse manager changing her mind and deciding I was not given a fair chance.
This is perhaps a rare incidence where management is reasonable. However, the point is that I have done everything right and the environment is so toxic that my peers hunt for things to make me look bad (don't get me wrong, I'm not perfect, I screw up - but it's little things that we all tend to do).
I guess the truth of the matter is I generally do not like working with nurses. I really don't feel like I have joined a profession at all. I am also an elementary school teacher by trade and can tell you the professional attitude in that field is light years beyond nursing. Nursing, by comparison, seems like a bunch of children squabbling for their piece of the pie.
I think I am done with nursing myself and will seek out a teaching position in the next academic year. There are so many other professions out there - i guess you grow thick skin and learn to tolerate nursing or you find a field that is more sane.
Jan 6, '07Occupation: Nursing student Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 796; Likes: 142Russ11... that is the best post I have ever read on this messageboard and agree with you 100 percent. How long have you been in Nursing... you have great wisdom.
Burnay76... you have only been out of school for 6 months. Don't give up!! There are other nursing options out there... not just hospitals!
Jan 6, '07Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 4I can remember when I first got out of school and I quit my first job, I walked out without a notice because a CNA I hade written up threatened me. It freaked me out considering I had not worked in seven years, I was a stay at home mom. I to didn't need to work my husband made good money. I was ready at that time to give up nursing, what I did instead was find another form of nursing I became a school nurse. That is the wonderful thing about the field of nursing there are many different types of jobs. So you found out you don't like working the the hospitals, How about home health? Or check out the school districts. It would be a shame to just throw away your education. I have been in nursing now for fifteen years and at times I get tired of it, but for the most part I love it, I would suggest you look around and find the perfect nursing job for you. Nurses are a precious commodity, don't ever forget that.
Jan 6, '07Occupation: staffnurse at a residential center for children with behavioral issues Specialty: Brain injury,vent,peds ,geriatrics,home ; Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 498; Likes: 47Quote from healer27Girlie.God bless you on the expectation of your first baby.Think about this.You went to and graduated nursing school! That, in itself ,is a huge accomplishment!!you need a little self esteem.im sorry you have had to tolerate these unprofessional,inconsiderate and nurses with no compassion.Be strong!You said you were fortunate enough to have one wonderful preceptor.There are more nice people than evil ,like youve encountered lately.Also ,think about this,yeah, today your husband can support your family,.What if tomorrow he is disabled or worse????If you give up nursing ,then what??But if you continue to learn and grow in nursing,youll be able to support your family if need be.You never knows what tomorrow holds.No one can take away the education that you have earned.Be strong and try to be confident.You wouldnt even have graduated if you werent able to do it.!Please do not give up!!!Also ,you can look in other areas such as home care,LTC,community nursing,pediatrics,geriatrics ortho,ect.ect.You might need to find your niche.I know,been there,done that!!You could even take time off to raise your baby,then take a refresher course later.bUT DONT GIVE IT UP!!!!Well, the start of a new year and I'm kissing nursing
good bye after only 5 short months. I graduated in may and started at a hospital in august. My very first preceptor was a nightmare, on my 3rd day on the floor she said I was too slow and put me down in front of other
nurses or whoever was in distance of hearing her. At one
point she even said, "well, I have her she know's nothing I have to show her everything." So being enthusiastic I decided NOT to let it get to me and proceeded to take her C*ap for another couple of weeks. At which time I was moved to a different floor with a preceptor who was great and I learned alot from. PRoblem was at this hospital IF
I wanted to stay I'd have to take a evening position. SO I left a found a hosptial closer to home on days. Well, once again I have the preceptor from hell not only that but the managers In my opinion are nitpickers. ON my first day on the floor they wrote up a nurse who was in charge of making sure all the phones were back at the end of the day, for not having a phone returned. (someone took one home accidentally).. I found this ridiculous, it's a busy med/surg floor with an 8:1 patient ratio and they are worried about PHONES???? I could go on and on about the other horrors but it would be to long.
Long story short I've decide to quit. Luckily I don't NEED the job to support myself or I wouldn't be able to leave. my hubby makes a decent salary. I do feel bad placing all the financial burden on him but I'm planning on just picking up a admin position somewhere. I don't care if I'm making half the money I jsut want to be happy. I'm so SICK of being stressed going into work, stressed coming home, worrying about this, being stressed on the floor. To me its just not worth it. My hubby is worried that I'll change my mind and want to come back to nursing but won't be able to after leaving 2 prior positions. bUt seriously I can't imagine feeling this way.
I also just found out I'm expecting my first child and I really can't imagine the stress level as well as not eating/drinking/peeing an entire shift is good. So I'm gone. I give up, I give in, I just feel like I can't do it. I'm thinking I'm just not meant to be in nursing, or i woudn't have just kept inheriting bad circumstances and preceptors from hell.
Well, I'd love to hear if anyone else has left nursing? come back and any other thoughts you all might have.
Hope this is a good new year for all.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: Pediatric RN, ICU coordinator Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in PICU, surgical post-op ; From: CA ; Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 424; Likes: 187I started out in PICU as a new grad, and wanted to quit off and on throughout my orientation. I think, if we're honest with ourselves, we've all felt the same way. I had 2 preceptors. One was sweet as anything, and still calls me to check up on me even though she no longer works on our unit. The other was a real "toughie" with a reputation for being exacting. She never used to precept anyone, so I was scared out of my mind when I found out she had specifically requested to have a hand in my training (I had worked as a tech there before, so everyone knew me). Can I tell you something? Despite the fact that she made me want to run right out the door, she taught me so much. Once I got home at night and dried my tears, I realized that, no, I didn't actually want to quit ... I wanted to be as good a nurse as she was. She has since passed away, and I am so thankful that I got the opportunity to work with her like I did.
Point being, maybe feelings of frustration and wanting to quit are actually the run-of-the-mill new grad feelings in disguise. Try to sift through the emotions of being the rookie, and maybe things will seem a little clearer.
Jan 7, '07Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 14; Likes: 3Quote from ruby veeok, i feel better--that's my take on it, too. all the compassionate, understanding responses make me feel like a real cynic--are you guys that gullible? haven't we worked alongside this person?[font="comic sans ms"]it strikes me that way, too. it amazes me, though, that someone who quit three jobs in six months seems to believe that her problems are everyone else's fault. (and that there are so many members willing to go along with that theory.) i'm not blaming the victim here, but surely she should at least take a look at her own contributions to the problems she was having!
also, if you're unhappy in nursing and you're staying for the salary--it's not worth it; not for you, not for me and not for our patients. you don't want your kid's burned-out, unhappy third-grade teacher sticking around because it's a liveable wage, do you? if you can't get happy, you have to change something.
the first year of nursing is a difficult year; i loved the job but dreaded going in--i didn't realize how stressful it was until "things" got better--and by "things", i mean me. after a year of learning from more experienced nurses, i managed my time more efficiently, i knew the hospital ropes inside and out, and i had a couple of special pals at work to crack jokes with and use as a sounding board for ideas and complaints. i found nurses who had some quality i wanted and i studied what they were doing. i looked especially at good nurses who had been there a long time, were happy, and planned to stay--they all shared similar personality traits. we all get frustrated--you need to surround yourself with people who can talk you down from the ledge, instead of letting you kill your career.
Jan 7, '07Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 287; Likes: 51russ11,
Thanks so much for those words of wisdom! Before nursing I was very timid. To make it in nursing I've learned that I need to be firm but polite also and this is something that I work on everyday. I think it's even more difficult being assertive when you're young AND a new nurse. I try to observe how the more experienced nurses interact with difficult patients, doctors, etc. and learn from them.
Jan 7, '07Occupation: Research Specialty: 28 year(s) of experience in Research, ED, Critical Care ; Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 154; Likes: 49some infamous bad behavior divas need a more direct approach... once 'god's right hand man' (a neurosurgeon) was "off the chain" about something and began screaming at me about a hospital policy. (i wasn't even involved with his patient just happened to be there)
i said "you may talk to your wife and children like this or maybe your office staff but not me ...i'm not the cause of your problems and i am not going to be blamed for them and i certainly don't have to put up with your bad behavior." and i walked off. much to his dismay a short time later he realized i was the only person in our whole departmant who was trained to monitor the icp monitor he wanted to insert in the er...our hospital has a policy that prohibits inserting icp monitors in the er but allows exceptions when the patient is critical and there is a nurse available who is certified to monitor it. on this day the patient was not critical but he did not want to wait(had dinner plans) while the patient was transferred to the or or neuro icu. my cn left it up to me and then made him ask me if i would be willing to assist him and monitor his patient even though it did not fall into the exception clause of the policy...i agreed, i was polite but avoided his attempts to "chat" and only gave short answers to direct questions during the procedure . to this day he goes out of his way to be nice to me .... and usually looks for me anytime he has a patient in our department...
the longer you tolerate bad behavior the worse it will become. i'm a firm believer that in all aspects of your life "you get what you settle for"[/quote]
had the exact same situation once - and only once. after that i and my team were golden with all the docs....
Jan 7, '07Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 36; Likes: 2Hello,
I havnt read the whole thread, and I'm not an RN, but as soon as I read that you were expecting a child I said "oh definatly", i dont know that much about preganancy and such but all the stress and holding to go to the bathroom, probably not proper nutrition during that time and so on i think would have negative impact on your child, regardless of the job and the pay, people come first, and i think the patient you have the highest priority to is your baby.
As far as nursing, it doesnt sound like you dislike the job, but more those you were working with made it unenjoyable, so it might not be bad to keep that option open and see if there are any other places you could work as a nurse or that would require an RN that you would prefer, though I have to believe you know far more about this and all the different ways you can use an RN then I do.
Congratulations on the baby!
Jan 7, '07Occupation: Licensed Practical Nurse Specialty: Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 9,297; Likes: 8,221There are so many encouraging posts here from people! I am also a new LPN and while I have not personally experienced many of the behaviors, I was witness to many of them. You would think that with the nursing shortage, that we would hang closer together for support, but that is not the reality for the bully and the harasser. I hope that the OP has been encouraged by all that you all had to offer.