Failed NCLEX multiple times - page 2
A question to all of the experienced nurses out there. I have seen multiple threads on this forum started by people who have taken the NCLEX multiple times and still can't pass. These threads are... Read More
Apr 24, '04Occupation: Glorified CNA Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 89Well I truly agree with some of the memners that taking a test cant determine what type of nurse you will become. As a matter of fact you dont know if the person is going to fail classes before they actually made it in the Nursing program! What if they took micro several times so you just never know .
KNOW Them by the Fruit they bear!!!!ex. does the nurse take care of the patient, is the patient comfortable ,and does she do her rounds at the proper time? thats what you should be concerned with not how many times the nurse took a test its All important.:chuckle
Apr 24, '04Occupation: Middle School almost high school student Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 35Hi
Im going into 9th grade and yall are scaring me to death about the test. I am in general math but ive heard that in order for me to graduate with a college prep seal I must go directly into college prep math which is algebra 1.
Apr 24, '04Joined: Apr '04; Posts: 18; Likes: 3Quote from AngelicaI totally agree here. I know someone who is trying to pass the NCLEX. Shes failed 3 times. Frankly, from the questions she asks me...Im not sure she should be an RN...however, shes already an LPN...so I dont see why she is having such a hard time...yeh, I know theres a difference there..but shes got a basic knowledge there, plus shes worked in the field for a long time b4 going back to RN school.....so..I dont know...I guess there should be a cutoff somewhere...just not sure what it is...Anyway, I know there are plenty of people who make wonderful nurses after having failed the test. However, there are also some people who fail repeatedly for a reason and should consider a career change.
I failed mine the first time.....I think that was the best thing for me..bc I went into the test kinda cocky, thinking...I couldnt possibly fail it....but I did...it humbled me. I got my priorities straight and buckled down and studied...passed with flying colors the 2nd time....its definetly a hard test...and anxiety does play a role..whether u know your stuff or not...
Apr 24, '04Occupation: SRNA Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 1,191; Likes: 28Honestly I used to feel the same way many of you do about people who fail the NCLEX multiple times. I thought that you should only have a few opportunities to take it and then you're done. Probably I thought this way because personally, I felt that the NCLEX was one of the easiest tests I ever took. But we are all different, and some of us are not as good at test taking as others. I changed my opinion when my fiance failed his medical boards twice-- he is a good student (although certainly does not get straight A's), and he works his butt off for the grades he does get. Truthfully, he's just better at the practical, hands-on stuff like actual patient care then he is at regurgitating the pathophysiology of some disease that no one's ever heard of. I would want him to be my doctor any day-- he may not be a genius, but he does have what counts.
Apr 24, '04Occupation: ED Nurse Specialty: Burn/Trauma ED ; Joined: Apr '04; Posts: 56; Likes: 6Different way to look at the problem:
Maybe school's shouldn't be graduating people who can't pass the NCLEX. My school has a 99% pass rate and I know of another one nearby that has been 100% for 10 years or more.
That was the first question I asked every school I talked to. One school bragged about a 91% pass rate. I thought that was pretty bogus. To me, if I'm gonna fork over cash for you to train me to be a nurse, I damn well better pass the board exam. If I don't have what it takes, don't let me in or just fail me after the first or second term.
Apr 24, '04Occupation: SRNA Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 1,191; Likes: 28Yeah my program had a 100% pass rate on the NCLEX but guess what?? My program also had a *40%* attrition rate!!! Maybe the admissions committee should be a BIT more selective about the people they accept into the program instead of allowing every Joe Schmoe who wants to be a nurse and has the money to pay tuition in. Just my $.02.
Apr 24, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 4,763; Likes: 843I passed the NCLEX (PN, then RN) on the first try. My LPN was the old fashioned pencil and Scantron. My RN exam was the computerized version. The computer stopped at 75 questions. IMO, the NCLEX exams are pretty easy, and do not nearly compare with the difficulty of being a nurse. The NCLEX exams were easier than many exams I had in school.
I know nurses who passed on the first try who are not the greatest nurses, and some who took two tries who are vey good nurses. Really, I don't think the NCLEX is a very good tool to evaluate the competency of nurses.
Apr 25, '04Occupation: Oncology RN Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 806; Likes: 25i am one of the ones who doesn't get test anxiety. i study hard and can "read between the lines". i am a very optimistic person and when i get ready to take a test...i think positive. if i get anxious..then i am bound to screw up..so by curbing my anxiety and relaxing right before a test i do quite well. i also think to myself.."i did my best job of studying...i know what i know"
this thread been filled with interesting posts! i'm wondering: if a person has such severe test anxiety...how will they handle a real emergency in the hospital when it arises?
Apr 25, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15What gets me is people that haven't even taken the NCLEX yet judging other's when they have no idea if they will even pass.
Apr 25, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 4,763; Likes: 843this thread been filled with interesting posts! i'm wondering: if a person has such severe test anxiety...how will they handle a real emergency in the hospital when it arises? [/quote]
that's what i've been wondering about, too!
a test is nothing compared to a pt circling the drain, and you better do the right thing, and do it right now!
i also had a classmate who is the sweetest most giving persn, but failed the nclex multiple times. if i or a family member were dying, she's be great at hand-holding and providing emotional support. but as my nurse? no way.
i am personally biased against flunkers because of something that happened in my nursing program.
our second to last semester in the program, about half the class failed the midterm and were informed that they would have to leave the program. they got together and protested all the way up to the college president. well...they were all given passing grades, and allowed to continue in the program., without any consequences for having failed.
some of them even had the audacity to have smug attitudes towards those of us who actually passed. i would never let one of these flunkers care for someone i loved. i've said it before- ignorance combined with arrogance is a very dangerous combination in a nurse.
that being said- i still do not think that the nclex is a good tool to evaluate nurses. it's too easy!
Apr 25, '04Occupation: Oncology RN Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 806; Likes: 25Quote from CNM2BYou are a nursing student yourself...are u not?What gets me is people that haven't even taken the NCLEX yet judging other's when they have no idea if they will even pass.
Have you even made it to the point of your schooling in which you took the HESI test? This test supposedly measures how well one will do on the NCLEX...If you do better than 70% on the HESI, you are supposed to able to ace the NCLEX. Since I passed the HESI with a 95% I am pretty confident that I will pass the NCLEX. Also, I believe I will pass becuz 1)I am an optimist, 2) my school has a 100% pass rate and 3) our main instructor writes for NCLEX and 4)all her tests are in NCLEX format and I pass them everytime.
Realistically I know there are no guarantees I will pass.
Apr 25, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 5,926; Likes: 15No I haven't gotten to that point, but I am also not about to judge other's when I have no idea what I am getting myself into.
Apr 25, '04Occupation: Registered Nurse Joined: Mar '03; Posts: 224; Likes: 3Hi all,
I can understand your points about nurses and anxiety...if they have anxiety on a test how can they handle pressure and anxiety in real life?
Have you known any new grad or nurse who could walk into his/her first code and know immediately what to do/what not to do?
I know I don't. I am a new RN but that dosen't make my test-taking anxiety cross over into my clinical experience. I am prudent, rule-oriented, and asking questions to all my colleagues. The majority of new nurses for their first year begin this way. And I am on my toes in every situation from someone choking to a patient with cold and clamy skin.
I was a bit offended that you would think that the anxiety is comparable. I was compelled to respond that we all learn how best to handle emergency situations with great mentoring from those of you who have experienced it and time spent on the job learning it. Please don't be so quick to judge those who had difficulty with Test-anxiety, not Life-anxiety.