Does working as a cna before becoming an rn make you a better rn? - page 4
When I told my sister (who is a bsrn) that I am going to rn school next year (due to a waiting list at the college), she seemed very adiment about me obtaining the cna certificate and to work as one... Read More
Aug 1, '02Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 10,236; Likes: 64Who said I did not consider myself a princess anymore? In fact, it's only gotten worse lately. Have you not heard? I am a goddess now!
BTW - here's the link to the other thread for ya...
Aug 1, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 4,738; Likes: 104Okay you two, why don't you just get a room.:chuckle
I worked as a health care aid (same as CNA) when I was a student. I highly recommend it. Don't do it like I did, though take the real CNA course -- don't just think you know enough from first year. I was a bit of a fish out of water before I got a little practice. It helped me gain comfort in the health care setting. It helped me develop my "bedside manner" and it definately helped me in those first few months after I got my registration.
It's just a good combination. Aides love nurses who were aides, nurses love aides that are nursing students. Give more insight into the jobs.
Besides it pays more than Mc Donalds.
Aug 1, '02Occupation: RN - College Health Specialty: Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 6,584; Likes: 70Being an aide first at the very least is a good way to weed yourself out if nursing truly isn't for you. At least two students in my class didn't realize until clinicals the depths of their aversion to body fluids - coulda saved themselves two years of prereqs if only they'd known. They found out most of the nursing classes up to that point transferred nicely to the dental hygienist program!
Like others have also noted, I've had some experience with (mostly student nurses and while I was one) that those who weren't aides first sometimes think that buttwiping, bathing and bedmaking are beneath them. Those who were aides first recognize that those are tasks we wish we had more time for when we're otherwise inundated with pills and charting.
Aug 1, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Originally posted by Nurse Ratched
Being an aide first at the very least is a good way to weed yourself out if nursing truly isn't for you.
Ha-ha-ha I like the expression, and the way you say this, its cool, makes me laugh and feel good.
Leave the weeds alone and let them take over. :kiss
Aug 1, '02Occupation: RN - College Health Specialty: Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health ; Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 6,584; Likes: 70Absolutely Mario - I can pull myself up by the roots and go elsewhere anytime I want .
And after one gal passed out the first time she opened a colostomy bag to empty it, she tranplanted her roots to another major .
Aug 1, '02Occupation: CNA; baby nurse (not a real nurse yet of course, but midnight feedings, and nanny for babies." Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 28It was working as a CNA at a nursing home that made me want to become a Nurse. I was planning to just leave it at that, and then I just loved talking to people (although I got so many bruises and aches and pains from so much physical labor) that I had to go on. I think it is advisable because if you can love being a CNA, then you can probably make it through nursing school. I certainly hope so, since I am still in school. Ha!!
Aug 1, '02Occupation: Utilization Review, prior Intake Mgr Home Care Specialty: 40 year(s) of experience in Home Care, Vents, Telemetry, Home infusion ; From: PA, US ; Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 27,548; Likes: 13,755Gee i remember those night shift days:
1973 15--30 patients as Nursing assistant
1977 26 patients as LPN
1982 7-14 patients as RN
Agree with Flo's post 100% . I can see all sides to an issue. Patient care ALL aspects love to perform. In home care, done many bed baths in strange locations: recliner chairs (even cathing patients), beech reclioner chairs, air mattresses on the floor etc.
What really pi$$ed me off in home care was caring for patients with leg ulcers and finding 6 inches of crude on feet/between toes. RN's performed perfunctory daily wound care but "forgot" to wash the feet: just rolled that kling and ace wrap. Aide was not allowed to disturb dressing.
Will seen on my toomstone:
Karen O'Hara RN, BSN
Had gloves, lubricant and basin,
Was willing to travel.
Aug 1, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in ER,med-surg, LTC, psych, dialysis ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 338; Likes: 43Even though I am not a nurse yet, I can already see how much difference it makes for me to know what I know.
Working as a tech ( cna same thing) I got my certification in phlebotomy ( after all, the ,more experience i have with manipulating veins during blood draws, the easier it would be for me to find veins for IVs), I also went through EKG course and I do them, and I have passed the telemetry exam, so if i ever wanted to be a cardiac nurse, passing the orientation test would not be as hard as if i had no experience.
I also get to know medications and their use before even entering clinicals . I watch nurses and learn their tricks and also learn from their mistakes.
My best friend never had any experience of this sort and I think she is missing out.
I have no doubts she will be a great nurse, but CNA experience is just a great plus.
Aug 2, '02Occupation: a just a nurse contemplating the nature of my career..... Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 2,344; Likes: 21hehehehehehehehe'........why don't you all just get a room'
funny....this caught me, but you can tell by the hour, I am sufferin' from insomnia again
hey........i think it was a he said/she said.............
or whose foot is bigger or something like that.....
micro doesn't know.......'cause micro is off on the mountain contemplating life...........
of course this is a state that insomnia...............
but hey you too, quit fightin' or you are both in the time-out corner..........
micro did micro share of day care......it is not forgotten...........
but what was the original ???????
oh, yes, experience......yeah, probably better.....
but then again.....if you are open to it.....the experience of life.....
like what a better teacher'?
micro is up way past micro's bedtime.....................
:zzzzz :stone :stoneLast edit by micro on Aug 2, '02
Aug 2, '02Occupation: Oncology Nurse Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 824; Likes: 2I would have to agree with your sister. I do think it helps you to feel more comfortable in the clinical experience, and also it will give you a view into the job. Although nursing is a whole lot more than cna duties, your first clinical experiences are those of a cna beds, baths etc.....
I worked as a cna al through school. I think it helped me mostly with people skills.
Aug 2, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 123; Likes: 10Back to working for the VA. Each facility is unique unto themselves (as is each hospital in town), but then they're still all the same in some ways. The pay is basically the same no matter in which city/town you work although they may (not 100% sure) have some sort of pay differential to help offset locals with higher costs of living. Since you're a federal employee, you have universal job protections (feds ain't going out of business any time soon) and most importantly for many, benefits that are hard to find elsewhere. I think I remember a nurse telling me during my last VA visit they start off with 30 days paid vacation (could be wrong!) and all federal holidays which gives you another 13 days off. Maybe not the highest starting pay, somewhere around $33K in Little Rock for a BSN, but the time-off and other benifits sure got my attention. Was also told they're not longer hiring certificates of associate degrees. Ya just gotta compare'm all and see which one hooks ya. Uh...please don't take my word for gospel. If'n any of ya'll work for the VA, please feel free to correct me rather than "flame me".
Aug 2, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 123; Likes: 10Previous note--should have been "...certificates or associate degrees."and benifits should have been spelled benefits. Little quick with the Submit Reply button.
Aug 2, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 2,276; Likes: 42I think it really helps to be a CNA before going to nursing school. I worked as a CNA before nursing school and during school. I was able to breeze through some of the basics of Nursing I, such as bedmaking and putting people on the bedpan correctly. I also knew some of theand lingo (like code brown)! Plus, it helps me relate to the CNAs I work with today. Especially when CNAs try to tell me that I have no idea where they are coming from. It usually helps my working relationship with the CNAs. I will get ice water, clean a poopy bottom, help with a bath. I even like to make beds. I guess I feel like the bed making is a low stress task, which I can use occasionally. I don't think you will be a less effective nurse by not working as a CNA but I think it could really help you with your nursing career. Good luck.