Doctors versus Guns - page 3
My aunt sent me this, and I thought it was funny. >A little something to ponder over... >a. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000. >b. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year is... Read More
Jan 8, '03Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,289this went exactly the direction i predicted. can we stop being so predictable around here? roflmao.
Jan 9, '03Occupation: Nursing Faculty Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 8,317; Likes: 6,285Sigh....I should have known better...lol
Jan 9, '03Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,289Originally posted by email@example.com
Sigh....I should have known better...lol
Jan 9, '03Occupation: Nursing Faculty Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 8,317; Likes: 6,285
Jan 10, '03Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 2,865; Likes: 15the word gun should be forbidden on this board
along with breastfeeding, porker, the f-word, masturbation , anything else?
wow were gonna really get into trouble when we hear a story about a cursing, masturbating, breastfeeding, gun toting nurse
Jan 10, '03Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 30The thing I find missing in the first post (which I've always gotten a kick out of btw) is this ...
How many people would die if they didn't have access to a doctor?
How many people would die if they didn't have access to a gun?
Jan 10, '03Occupation: Nursing student Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 389; Likes: 10If Anna Nicole Smith went to nursing school (God forbid) and then got pregnant, she'd probably fit HappeeWendy's "cursing, masturbating, breastfeeding....etc. nurse". :chuckle
She's Texan, so I have to assume the "gun-toting" part is already filled. We ALL know that the masturbating part is...the lovely lady tells anyone with cable that on a regular basis.
No worries about me taking a funny thread and turning it into a gun debate...I'm the most conflicted gun owner in the world. I don't hunt, I vote for Democrats, and I think that gun owners SHOULD be responsible for civil damages if their improperly kept gun is stolen and then used in a crime. I also believe "self-defence" means just that--defence of self or those immediately threatened. Not defence of your TV, your stereo system, or your car.
Anyhow, funny article, I've forwarded it to a couple of the guys I shoot with.
Jan 10, '03Occupation: Nursing Faculty Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 8,317; Likes: 6,285Originally posted by RN2B2005
If Anna Nicole Smith went to nursing school (God forbid) and then got pregnant, she'd probably fit HappeeWendy's "cursing, masturbating, breastfeeding....etc. nurse". :chuckle
Jan 10, '03Occupation: nursing student Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 181; Likes: 29And here I thought it was a joke. How did this get so serious.
Jan 14, '03Occupation: RN, ER Case management, precertification. Specialty: ICU-Stepdown ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 862; Likes: 53Originally posted by JMP
Guns kill people... that is what they are for.
Guns kill animals....that is what they are for.
Guns are used in crime.....threats.....to defend property (with the threat to kill or do serious harm) ....... . that is what they are for.
Please, OH PLEASE, do not drag out that old argument about knives, cars and rope and how they can be used to kill people too! PLEASE, give us more credit than that. I beg you!
Doctors are people, who make mistakes, but as far as I know, doctors where not DESIGNED or CREATED to kill.
You don't want the old arguments, then don't bring them.
Guns do NOT kill anything. The person aiming and fireing said tool does the killing.
Does your car drive itself? ("Officer, the car just drove into the crowd! Honest! I was just along for the ride!"
I've been around guns, and used them, for most of my life.
I have NEVER "accidentally" fired my gun, never hurt anyone, nor myself (except once, when, like an idiot, I picked up a freshly discharged casing -still hot!). Afraid of guns? No, but I do fear people. My biggest fear is having a populace w/o firearms, with a well-armed government.
Oh yeah, I'm also an NRA member.
Jan 14, '03Occupation: RN, ICU Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 740; Likes: 2I feel this thread is so much of the same old- same old- I, DO NOT see the logic that a gun is a "tool". But that is me. I think a gun is a weapon, it is made to be a weapon, it is a weapon and that is it's one and only purpose.
Trying to make an argument that a car or a hammer are in the same catagory...in my opinion...... is stupid and totally ignorant of the facts.
THis is my opinion. Others, many others, feel guns are useful household items. I don't.
I am aware that this thread was started in a "joke" fashion, and I just did not think it was funny..... trying to make light of this serious issue is not funny.......in my opinion. I know that since my original post, some people have tried to find humour still in the subject, this seems to be a way for some to approach this subject and feel good about it.
Again, I don't. But like everyone else, I am entitled to my opinion.Last edit by JMP on Jan 14, '03
Jan 14, '03Occupation: RN, ER Case management, precertification. Specialty: ICU-Stepdown ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 862; Likes: 53When used to bring down a deer or wild boar, is it still a weapon? A tool is a device or machine designed to facilitate manual work or task.
A gun is no more than a machine designed to guide a projectile. If you hunt with it, you are bringing down game much more efficiently than digging a hole and driving the game into that hole.
If you don't see the connection with a car or hammer, you should pay a little more attention to how murders tend to be commited. Many people also use guns to save their lives, and that of others. I have never done this, but I do know personally of several incidents where this is true (I was the paramedic on scene at two of them.)
btw, far more die by cars than by guns. They may not intentionally kill with their cars, but hey, thats an accidental death just as sure as an irresponsible shooting that takes a life. Car crashes are very rarely due to mechanical failure, but to human misjudgement or irresponsibility.
I would say that I am likely to be far more versed in firearms than you are, just based on your base dislike of them, and my familiarity stems from personal experience which spans many years, not from some anti-gun rag. I do NOT appreciate being called (indirectly) STUPID or TOTALLY IGNORANT of the facts.
I do not know (nor do I care) about Canadian gun laws. I suspect they are more strict than here. I DO know that wherever concealed/carry laws are enacted, violent crime falls dramatically (not just a 1 or 2 percent), and this has happened w/o fail. I also know that where gun control laws are stepped up, the crime rates rise with it.
Guns are here. In USA, they are an integral part of our history and culture, and just banning or restricting them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens will not make it a safer place to be.
You DO NOT want to turn this into a gun issue, trust me on this. I'd suggest we drop the subject.