Do you think patients should have the right to use medical marijuana?

mochabean · Jan 3, 2009

Marijuana is a PLANT and I don't understand why it's considered "illegal." Does calling it "medical" give someone permission to use it? Is there such a thing as "medical tea"? I've never used marijuana before, but I believe it's a natural medicine that can be a used to alleviate symptoms associated with illness. If someone wants to use it everyday just to be dopey that's their problem, but there are also people who chug down bottles of cough syrup to get high and that's legal.

ETA: If I were ill, I'd prefer natural marijuana than the synthetic man-made stuff in tablet form that has too many side-effects; it defeats the entire purpose.

OC85 · Jan 3, 2009

Also, we are talking about medical marijuana, which makes me think it should be synthetic and not available for smoking. Of course one could crush a pill and find a way to smoke it, but then again, aren't we doing something similar when we give morphine per nebulizer? One thing I would like to know about medical marijuana - does the user develope tolerance?

How does it make a difference whether you smoke it or pop a pill? And may I ask why you feel medicinal marijuana should be synthetic when the plant is so effective in its natural state? To me, it seems like requiring medicinal marijuana to be synthetic is just a way of taking millions of dollars out of patients pockets and giving it to pharmaceutical companies. Although, really, I feel like thats what this whole thing is really about, anyway: Money. In my opinion, the only reason the Feds are so opposed to MM is because there is so much pressure from the pharmaceutical industry [deep pockets there] to keep it illegal.

BTW, marijuana users [medicinal and recreational alike] do not develop a tolerance for the drug. Often, habitual users will become more accustomed to being high [that is, they learn to deal with the impairment a little more], but even with regular use, more or less the same amount still gets you just as high.

zuzi · Jan 9, 2009

My life values tell me that somenthing "stinks" here.... Why to smoke marijuana when are a lot of medications, and a lot of doctors are here to help you instead to smoke marijuana??

NO! Patients need GOOD DOCTORS AND NURSES, that's all!

For fun and if you want to loose your own mind, is your own decision, BUT to no make a leagal think from somenthink that could give many problems in time... :no: :no: :no: ...

Iam46yearsold · Jan 9, 2009

My life values tell me that somenthing "stinks" here.... Why to smoke marijuana when are a lot of medications, and a lot of doctors are here to help you instead to smoke marijuana??
NO! Patients need GOOD DOCTORS AND NURSES, that's all!
For fun and if you want to loose your own mind, is your own decision, BUT to no make a leagal think from somenthink that could give many problems in time...:no:...

You are absolutely correct in your statement here. Patients need good doctors and nurses. I could not agree more with that. Yes we should all take antidepressants and anti anxiety drugs and anti mood disorder drugs and anti attention deficit disorder drugs. We should with our entire beings support the Medical association that prescribes all these drugs for us. We should also entirely support the pharmaceutical companies that not only makes these drugs but has also come up with reasons and illnesses for us all to take these drugs for the rest of our lives and be dependant on the pharmaceutical companies and keep them wealthy beyond belief. This is our duty in life. Lets us also not forget the psychiatrists. When I was young a psychiatrist actually sat down and talked with you and helped you realize what your problem was and how to deal with it. Now they spend 5 minutes with you, prescribe a medicine, that they tell you , you need for the rest of your life. They write a book on that 5 minutes with you and how that drug affects you. The end up on TV with Phil or Oprah and they are rich for the rest of their lives. While you keep taking that expensive medicine, untill it kills you, or it becomes cheap as a generic medicine. Then that psychiatrist talks to again and prescribes the latest and newest and most expensive medicine currently on TV. Remember how expensive Prozac was and all their commercials on TV, does anyone hear of prozac now anymore. Of course not it is generic and no longer of any use. So we make the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies rich. So they can live on Luxurious houses and estates and belong to fancy resorts. While we struggle to get by on their latest and newest psych medications.

So think of the all the lives and businesses you disrupt if you should legalize marijuana. I mean really, it would mean the end of the pharmaceutical companies, the Careers of psychiatrists. You couldnt OD on all these medications they make then. ER nurses would be out of work also. Psych hospitals and psych nurses would be out of work also. That is terrible we can not have that. Have you ever overdosed on marijuana, all you do is get the munchies and fall asleep.

I am so shook up over all of this, now I need to go take a Xanax, a cymbalta and my Geodon.

By the way this is all a joke, so do not take me seriously.:chuckle:typing:twocents:

Also look at all the people who will not be prisoners if you legalize MJ. if its not a crime then think of all the once criminals now free to roam our streets. Oh My God, The terror of it. Now I need a lyrica also, my Fibro is acting now.

I live for my medications. If medications are also called drugs. And some medications are illegal drugs, then some drugs are illegal medications. If some illegal drugs were once legal, became illegal, then became somewhat legal again, what are they referred to as. I am so confused I need my Adderall.

No what I really need is Saturday Night Live and a pizza.

Am I in trouble here.

Does this constitue a violaton of "Three Strike" rule

hypocaffeinemia, BSN, RN · Jan 9, 2009

I voted yes. However, I just want to point out a huge fallacy:

Marijuana is a PLANT and I don't understand why it's considered "illegal."

This is the naturalistic fallacy -- Something being a plant doesn't make it safe or effective nor is it a good argument for legalization. Heroin comes from the opium poppy, a plant. Digoxin is little more than refined Digitalis. Atropine comes from the deadly nightshade plant. Heck, even cocaine is extracted from plant leaves.

OC85 · Jan 9, 2009

I voted yes. However, I just want to point out a huge fallacy:
This is the naturalistic fallacy -- Something being a plant doesn't make it safe or effective nor is it a good argument for legalization. Heroin comes from the opium poppy, a plant. Digoxin is little more than refined Digitalis. Atropine comes from the deadly nightshade plant. Heck, even cocaine is extracted from plant leaves.

The perhaps people should add:

It is a plant that has no negative effects that are worse than alcohol or tobacco [both legal], has never killed anyone, does not contribute to violent crime [or any crime beyond possession and use on marijuana itself], and is impossible to overdose on.

When you amend the statement like that, it still proves the same point that people were originally trying to make.

hypocaffeinemia, BSN, RN · Jan 9, 2009

The perhaps people should add:
It is a plant that has no negative effects that are worse than alcohol or tobacco [both legal], has never killed anyone, does not contribute to violent crime [or any crime beyond possession and use on marijuana itself], and is impossible to overdose on.
When you amend the statement like that, it still proves the same point that people were originally trying to make.

When you amend it, it changes the words and meaning the author of my quoted words had.

Of course I and any other rational person agree with the amended version -- it isn't fallacious.

Iam46yearsold · Jan 9, 2009

When you amend it, it changes the words and meaning the author of my quoted words had.
Of course I and any other rational person agree with the amended version -- it isn't fallacious.

Then the question arises. " I and any rational person" then why isn't it legal other than to support the drug companies, the medical companies and big medical businesses.

OC85 · Jan 9, 2009

When you amend it, it changes the words and meaning the author of my quoted words had.
Of course I and any other rational person agree with the amended version -- it isn't fallacious.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. Your point that simply being a natural plant doesn't make something safe is completely valid. I was just saying that people making statements like that should add further support for their point other than "its a plant".

OC85 · Jan 9, 2009

Then the question arises. " I and any rational person" then why isn't it legal other than to support the drug companies, the medical companies and big medical businesses.

Lets not forget private prisons, who make a lot of money keeping people locked up on MJ related charges.

And of course, law enforcement, which receives a LOT of funding to fight marijuana. A lot of people are swayed when law enforcement organizations rally against the legalization of marijuana, but what they don't realize, is that these organizations adopt this position as a way of protecting their budgets, not out of concern for public safety. God forbid they should be forced to spend more of their time doing something useful for society, like arresting people for things like violent crimes....

There's also the fines state and local governments collect in possession tickets.

Like so many other aspects of society, just follow the money, and you'll find out who is really responsible for maintaining marijuana's illegal status..

Iam46yearsold · Jan 9, 2009

I voted yes. However, I just want to point out a huge fallacy:
This is the naturalistic fallacy -- Something being a plant doesn't make it safe or effective nor is it a good argument for legalization. Heroin comes from the opium poppy, a plant. Digoxin is little more than refined Digitalis. Atropine comes from the deadly nightshade plant. Heck, even cocaine is extracted from plant leaves.

Heroin, then morphine, all come from the Poppy plant and except when misused are very therapeutic.

Digoxin except when misused is very therapeutic as we all know

Atropine poves the Night shade plant is also therapeutic except when misused.

Cocaine has very valid therapeutic uses also. It even put the Coca in Coca Cola originally until the drug companies got miffed.

Iam46yearsold · Jan 9, 2009

Lets not forget private prisons, who make a lot of money keeping people locked up on MJ related charges.
And of course, law enforcement, which receives a LOT of funding to fight marijuana. A lot of people are swayed when law enforcement organizations rally against the legalization of marijuana, but what they don't realize, is that these organizations adopt this position as a way of protecting their budgets, not out of concern for public safety. God forbid they should be forced to spend more of their time doing something useful for society, like arresting people for things like violent crimes....

Lets also not forget the various churches maligning the use of marijuana also. Just imagine all the sermons that have been given on the misuse of marijuana. That Old Heathen Devil Weed