confessions of a RRT

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Dear fellow healthcare colleagues,

Growing up I had a father who had multiple diagnosed respiratory issues from working at the factory. I remember the night stand filled with inhalers and a machine that blasts air out through a mask. Later on in life after serving my country I had a child. Every so often my kid would have trouble breathing id stay up late at night using a machine that gives her breathing treatments to make it better.

I wanted to serve my community again. I had no clue what a respiratory therapist was until 2 weeks before I joined the program. I figured I could learn more about my kids respiratory issues and help my father cope with his. I remember my first clinical rotation, 8 hours of mundane tasks like Incentive spirometers and MDI teaches. Still, after 8 hours of this I would walk out that hospital with my chest high and proud that I did what I learned to do to the best of my ability. Fast forward 5 semesters, 300 hours of floor clinical's 500 hours of ICU clinicals it was time for me to graduate. Finally the days has come. I passed my boards and received my license to practice medicine with a focus in respiratory therapy.

got a job! I couldn't wait to work with my colleagues, I respect them as they respect me. Atleast, thats what I thought. slowly but gradually I started to realize my true role within the healthcare community. As a student I did an immense amount of studying pulmonary diseases and how to treat them properly, I would thoroughly enjoy doing patient research pertaining to the cardiopulmonary system and reporting my findings to the preceptors and MD's on improving patient care. Now, some days I cant even get 10 minutes to look into a patients chart to research because I have multiple patients on multiple floors with a varying degree of care. I never came into this profession with an ego but with an opened mind. I'm a new respiratory therapist, I know, but if I stay quiet and focus on my part of patient care Ill be fine once my face gets more familiar to those nurses on that unit on this floor and the other nurses on the other unit on the next floor up etc.

but I cant, everyday that nurse on that floor has to ruin my day. I know when you talk about me because it gets quiet when I walk in that room. If i'm 15 mins late for a PRN treatment for a patient in mild distress with bilateral vesicular breath sounds did you stop and think I might be helping another nurse on a different floor with a patient in severe respiratory distress? can you give me 10 minutes to hook up a naked Bi-pap with proper settings for that patient? If I make a liter-flow suggestion for a post extubation COPD patient it isnt because I think im smarter than you, its because I know why his respiratory rate was only 7 on CPAP and lethargic the MD was diminishing his hypoxic drive at 40% CPAP +5, now hes oriented and comfortable on a 2L N/C satting 89-93% RR @ 15 thats what his brain wants, but you still cant hear me can you? even when I try to explain. Its okay run off to the MD and your Nurse friends and talk about me for 5 minutes while i'm gone fixing the next patient.

I just sat down for lunch and you call me thinking a patient needs his trach suctioned, well if youve been suctioning him all day why isnt his sputum trap more crystal clear? If you think you can run a ventilator youre more than welcome to suction as well master of all trades. Your CF patient right chest is getting bigger? but you're firmly addressing for a stat respiratory treatment that "you" ordered, well thats not gonna do much for that developing tension pneumothorax but Ill give it anyway and let you figure out YOUR chest tube is clogged. I just got done doing my vent checks and someone decided to switch over a patient on CPAP and leave the room, thankfully I showed up just in time while the sats where dropping below the point of no return down the P50 curve, Oh whats that? a huge plug...dont forget to suction that patient nurse, thats under your license to you can do what I do remember? its ok dont play super hero now and start chest compressions with a HR at 54 not necessary plugs gone, face is pink, and those tidal volumes are returning. I cant even participate in patient rounds without being looked down upon as a button pusher by all of you, any suggestions I make its taken as mudane and irrelevant. But congrats youve told the MD his tidal volumes, 02 Sat, Co2, RR, PEEP etc youre basically an RRT! but Ive been keeping track o those blood gas trends over the passed 5 days and I assure you you have the wrong settings for that partially compensated metabolic alkalosis or what you like to call "almost fully compensated respiratory acidosis" but hey, what does my opinion matter during rounds. I let you keep him on that vent another 3 days to figure it out.

Yes you can press an alarm button and 100% fi02 but do you know if you increase this button it affects the other 4 buttons? did you know if you pressed that same button on a pediatric patient those lungs will pop instantly? I could tell their is too much water in the heated circuit before I enter the room, those zig zagged lines on those multi colored wave forms on that vent is telling me to suction and dump water, you must of not noticed sitting in front of the patient the whole time. if you have 10 vents running can you distinguish which one is beeping with a low or medium or high priority when 5 of them are going off? sorry if I popped my head in while youre turning your patient? its just because I making sure hes breathing. You called me for a pt. in respiratory distress hes on a 4L N/C breathing through his mouth at a rate of 32 bpm satting at 88-89% tachycardic with shallow tidal volumes, If I put on his "high flow" 40% venturi mask its because its going to meet the patients inspiratory demand 32 x shallow Vt of 200-300ml = 6400 (pt only breathing 6.4 ltr/min) x 4 = 25,600ml / 1000 = 25.6 L per min = ID, 25.6 - 6.4 = set venturi @ 4.8-5.0 L/sec for the 40% to perfuse correctly between 80-100mmhg of 02 on his Hgb oh look! his sat are now 99% hes not tachypneic and hs HR decreased on the same percentage of 02 on a 5L nasal cannula except in a high flow system. But you can run off and tell the MD he was fine on his N/C after SWAT shows up and rapid response. You fixed him,fine.

we have 5 different masks that accomplish 5 different things. 4 different vents that operate in different ways,3 different bi-pap machines that work is different ways,10 different circuits that do different things on those specific ventilators, 2 different CPAP machine. Dont bring this vent to MRI its gonna cost you 30,000 bucks. Dont put ths circuit on that peds vent its gonna cause severe respiratory acidosis, and not give out the true PEEP or PS, pressing buttons doesnt make you a respiratory therapist anymore than me unoccluding your lines makes me a nurse. I hope you future nurses gain more respect for YOUR RRT's. as for you Phd nurses who shun us away from the new MD's on your floor to let him know whos boss...good luck with getting those COPD'ers Asthmatics, CF'ers, CHF, Brohchitis,pnuemo's,pneumonias out quicker, healthier and keep em out. because all well do is press those buttons and say no more to you.

As for me I'm 2 semesters from becoming a cardiovascular perfusionist, so I can get away from you savages.

And that's exactly my point, I started out extremely proactive. Asking nurses if I can help in anyway after my treatments,vent checks, suctioning etc. Asking about what this drug does, and what the pump alarm means I was genuinely interested. Now I see why I'm the "red headed step child of the hospital" or "floor whore" because although I do have and extensive knowledge of why this button is being pressed on that patient with those lungs and those settings are probably not good I get ignored by a majority of the ICU nurses its brushed off a insignificant, its just a button. But when that vent starts going hay-wire and you don't know why all of the sudden my button pressing skills become crucial. Sometimes because of the very same button I was ordered to press 30 minutes ago whilst trying to explain if that alarm goes off its because of this only to be ignored. Im not trying to explain mechanics of ventilation to decide to try and seem smart in front of you I am because it will effect OUR patient.

All over these forums I see stuff like "what does a therapist do that I can't" etc. If the therapist over at your hospital are starting to be useless, its because they have been treated as being useless and gave up. If you can draw an ABG just as good as an RT, then fine go ahead. If you can manage a trach as good as an RT, then fine go ahead, If you can do this and that as good as an RT then fine, go ahead. but don't in return twist it into us being lazy or not wanting to do our job. If you want to be everything to our patient fine, I have 6, 10, 16 , 20+ patients to do get to anyway.

So you're telling me the suctioning and IS is not mundane and VERY important right? well its only because and RT said its not. But if im in and out of your patients room doing "IS Q1 while awake PRN" the roles are switched into me bothering your patients for pointless stuff. But since it very important then why haven't you charted that you've been encouraging that patient to reach higher goals every hour while you were with him for 4-6 hours keeping him/her safe?

Seems likes no matter what I say on here my words get twisted around because RT's go to jupitor to get more stupider and RN's are from mars because theyre rockstars! te he.

and now suctioning is very important? so far 100% of the open stomas I had is see zero sputum in the collection bucket when my shift starts. you guys could suction as good as an RT but when somethings grosses you out just call the RT and say his breath sounds are junky.

some of you refer to me as a neb jockey who gives out albuterol all day, no big deal nothing compared to the immense amount of dangerous drugs you give all day. But when your patient states being SOB all of the sudden its a life saving drug...which it is.

you say you analyze blood gases for the most part it really isn't that hard. but if the MD cant figure out why the vent settings are maxed out (safely) and the patient isn't compensating for his uncorrected acute on chronic respiratory acidosis with moderate hyper oxygenation do you really want an RT tell ask the MD to see you because "you can draw an ABG". If you've been noticing a patients muscle tremors have been getting worse with his/her SABA are you going to recommend switching to SAAC so the muscle tremors will stop? But if I try to do the same thing for the common goal of our patient you have to rechart this and rechart that and call this person and that person and gossip about it to this nurse and that nurse. you refuse to learn from it but instead get angry at me being a good respiratory therapist.

no wonder why all the RRT's gave up on you. you just cant accept the fact that there is an equally educated health care worker with a stethoscope working on YOUR? patient. I guess all your RRT will have left to do is vent's, god knows the hospital wont trust you with them as I admit and do not want get near that IV pole with those deadly but life saving drugs, so they're forced to keep the RT dept open.

I forget what state and town...but a small town hospital slowly decided to start weaning off the RT's task by task treatment by treatment because all the nurses decided to reassure that theres no need for RTs here. slowly but sure allowing the nurses and nurse practitioners to do minor adjustments on ventilators. Until and MD asked a nurse to do an order for "lung recruitment" on a vent all you gotta do is slowly go up on the PEEP from 5 to 30-35 and back down to 5. did she monitor the MAP,Static and Dynamic compliance, the PIP etc? no, those numbers are there to make the vent look fancy and important..."RRT code blue 2nd floor etc" ... failed to realizes the lung she popped. that hospital went back to letting RT's do those "mundane" tasks quicker than ever.

Sad thing is you will all interpret this as me bragging about how cool I am and wah wah i wanna be important too wah wah begging for your approval. the only people youre polite to is the workers below you sanitation,dieticians,maintenance because you feel superior to them and the NP's MD's because theyre superior to you. But an RRT who also has a associates, bachelors and stethoscopes who also get to do invasive procedures on your patients you all get snobby attitudes trying ever so desperately to prove to someone, anyone that you indeed should be considered a little more superior.

you want a good RRT who will show up at your patients bedside instead of hanging out in the respiratory room after vent checks, act like it.

this message is to the few nurses out there that are clueless on what we really do and at one point wanted to do but dont anymore because YOU turned us into jaded, vengeful not give a **** attitude therapists.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I wonder if you are overly sensitive and misreading the nurses. I haven't ever witnessed what you are describing. We appreciate the RT's and know they too are overworked and can't be in two places at once. If the nurses are truly as you describe I would think then they are testing you as you said you are new, but I would be surprised if they were really discounting you. I'm not an ICU nurse, although I have worked with vents and inline suctioning.

I hope things get better for you and good luck on your next career goal. Don't write off all nurses, we all need to work together as a team.

gods gift to nurses? stop acting like your gods gift to your patients does your title say RN-MD Phd RRT NP OT PT ST etc etc let me guess you know just as much as they do too right?

heres a dose of reality for you, stop acting as if your gods gift to patients and the hospital just because you're with 2 patients for 12 hours pushing meds. stop acting like you can walk on water just because you can hang a bag and press start then type alot of stuff for the MD. the sad thing is I know you do more than that, but you refuse to understand that I do more that give an aerosol. next time you here a code blue, go ahead and intubate them, choose what vent to use, adjust the vent so you dont pop a lung or collapse one, insert and ABG line, interpret the gases and then readjust the vent settings to what they need and then move onto the other 8 vented patients you have and make sure the residents didn't order and dangerous settings out of the 452467 that we have. but no, all you see is me going in and out of your patients room doing a quick neb and staring at a screen for no reason. while you sit there. Why do you have to wait on an RT to give just a dumb quick breathing treatment? because I studied it for just as long as you did you propofol. and I'm proud of doing those nebs. Hey! while youre at it go ahead and read those new vent orders the resident just ordered while you do that neb go ahead a change a few things on that vent too, it only takes a few seconds. see how that works out.

Specializes in ICU.

I'm hoping you're just venting and feeling unappreciated. I get it. I've been there from the nursing side. I love the RTs I work with. I'm always interested to learn a little something from them, and I've gotten some gems from the good ones!

**Editing to add..

Oh my goodness. I had typed my reply before reading more of your comments OP. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.. I take it back!

"who have a license to do everything that you do" that must be why there are 120,000 RRTs in the country with their own license and own degree(s) someone just played a big trick on us and we all turned out to be undercover nursing assistance. so go ahead and brush off that respiratory therapist that you hate so much and do your own tx's,bipaps,cpaps,highflows,intubations, extubations etc then show the guy that fires you where exactly on your license it states that you can especially the part where it says you can be super nurse and set up a bare naked ventilator set it up to whatever your heart desires and plug that baby right into that ET tube.

Oh I get it. Although Ill be a fully licensed perfusionist, im still not a nurse and therefore should be less respected.right. you can do that job too its just a bunch of tubes and blood, no math or physics at all. go ahead and press the alarm silence button or kink a tube, lay a hair on it. you will be eaten alive by...me. Afterward go ahead an run to the MD and assure him/her that you're a nurse and im a perfusionist see if you get your way then. now go be a good nurse and abuse your RRT's and hang those saline bags.

Specializes in Critical care.
"who have a license to do everything that you do" that must be why there are 120,000 RRTs in the country with their own license and own degree(s) someone just played a big trick on us and we all turned out to be undercover nursing assistance. so go ahead and brush off that respiratory therapist that you hate so much and do your own tx's,bipaps,cpaps,highflows,intubations, extubations etc then show the guy that fires you where exactly on your license it states that you can especially the part where it says you can be super nurse and set up a bare naked ventilator set it up to whatever your heart desires and plug that baby right into that ET tube.

I notice that you've chosen to not address the large majority stories where we view our RT buds positively...and the several previous posters that have made that same observation.

Not that my opinion here means squat, but I vote that we all just leave this new member to his/her own misery and interact no further.

so go ahead and brush off that respiratory therapist that you hate so much and do your own tx's,bipaps,cpaps,highflows,intubations, extubations etc then show the guy that fires you where exactly on your license it states that you can especially the part where it says you can be super nurse and set up a.

Wow! You have failed led to read any of the posts here. Almost everyone posted about respect for the RTs on their team.

If you read any State Board of Nursing's scope of practice, you will see it is very broad. If the job calls for it, the nurse will probably be able to do it. As you stated, there are only 120,000 RTs. There are many hospitals across the US which do not have Respiratory Therapists in house. RTs are not recognized as professionals in a lot of situations including out of hospital, outpatient and Critical Access Hospitals. Some states don't allow RTs on transport teams. Check your own scope of practice.

You got your feelings hurt because you refused to be a team player. Now you are taking your anger out on all nurses. You are also abandoning the RT profession for what you think will be a better working situation . But, in the process you are leaving a huge black eye on the professional Respiratory Therapists who are our co-workers and team mates in patients care.

OP, if you hit the "quote" button in the lower right corner of a post, people will know who you're responding to. I haven't read through everything, but I did see something about empty suction canisters at the beginning of your shift. If you happen to start your shift when nursing does, they might have just been emptied. I typically change mine out right before I leave for the day.

Specializes in Critical Care.
Wow! You have failed led to read any of the posts here. Almost everyone posted about respect for the RTs on their team.

If you read any State Board of Nursing's scope of practice, you will see it is very broad. If the job calls for it, the nurse will probably be able to do it. As you stated, there are only 120,000 RTs. There are many hospitals across the US which do not have Respiratory Therapists in house. RTs are not recognized as professionals in a lot of situations including out of hospital, outpatient and Critical Access Hospitals. Some states don't allow RTs on transport teams. Check your own scope of practice.

You got your feelings hurt because you refused to be a team player. Now you are taking your anger out on all nurses. You are also abandoning the RT profession for what you think will be a better working situation . But, in the process you are leaving a huge black eye on the professional Respiratory Therapists who are our co-workers and team mates in patients care.

OP might be able to do transport on the whambulance...?

Specializes in Medical ICU.
"who have a license to do everything that you do" that must be why there are 120,000 RRTs in the country with their own license and own degree(s) someone just played a big trick on us and we all turned out to be undercover nursing assistance. so go ahead and brush off that respiratory therapist that you hate so much and do your own tx's,bipaps,cpaps,highflows,intubations, extubations etc then show the guy that fires you where exactly on your license it states that you can especially the part where it says you can be super nurse and set up a bare naked ventilator set it up to whatever your heart desires and plug that baby right into that ET tube.

We have those people. They are called CRNAs. We don't hate you [RTs], but you obviously worked at a terrible hospital.

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