a lot of people tried to help Flores, including people he murdered

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Not to turn this into a gun control debate again, but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock? (That's not what Walt killed Bambis mom with....)

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Not to turn this into a gun control debate again, but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock? (That's not what Walt killed Bambis mom with....)

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is that while it offers enourmous opportunity for gain, some people WILL lose. The problem is when people don't want to be "good" losers. Flores would have been better off pursueing a two year electrician apprecticeship (when it became clear he would flunk out) and making 50K a year in a trade than ending it all. Heck, for that matter he could have probably moved to Canada and escaped his student loans, child support obligations, received free health care AND financial assistance to boot! If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.

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is that while it offers enourmous opportunity for gain, some people WILL lose. The problem is when people don't want to be "good" losers. Flores would have been better off pursueing a two year electrician apprecticeship (when it became clear he would flunk out) and making 50K a year in a trade than ending it all. Heck, for that matter he could have probably moved to Canada and escaped his student loans, child support obligations, received free health care AND financial assistance to boot! If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.

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Originally posted by Roland

If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.

I really don't think this person's paranoia and personal problems/issues would have been resolved by our (expensive) social safety nets. Canada does not want your failures and your nut-cases. It's not like life is perfect up here, either.

As far as escaping child support obligations, etc - I think you may be misinformed. I thought the canadian government had a good record of co-operating with american authorities to make sure that people ARE held up to responsibiliries such as this. Please don't talk about canada as if it's "home free" in a game of tag.

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Specializes in Trauma acute surgery, surgical ICU, PACU.
Originally posted by Roland

If no other message comes out of this tragic incident then this should. If life seems to bleak to face in the US, instead of committing murder, move to Canada.

I really don't think this person's paranoia and personal problems/issues would have been resolved by our (expensive) social safety nets. Canada does not want your failures and your nut-cases. It's not like life is perfect up here, either.

As far as escaping child support obligations, etc - I think you may be misinformed. I thought the canadian government had a good record of co-operating with american authorities to make sure that people ARE held up to responsibiliries such as this. Please don't talk about canada as if it's "home free" in a game of tag.

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refugee status for the asking until a hearing could be held (in some cases up to a year later). However, I had also read that Canada was in the process of tightening up that process. In any case there is a great deal of land of in the Yukon, and Northwest territories where I doubt anyone would go out of their way to find you (unless you were wanted for a felony). While this is far from an "ideal" lifestyle it beats killing a bunch of people and then yourself. Heck, for that matter he could have probably worked on a crab fishing boat in Alaska. Hard, dangerous work, but at least he could have made decent money (up to 40K for a months work even with little experience). Again it beats murder and suicide.

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refugee status for the asking until a hearing could be held (in some cases up to a year later). However, I had also read that Canada was in the process of tightening up that process. In any case there is a great deal of land of in the Yukon, and Northwest territories where I doubt anyone would go out of their way to find you (unless you were wanted for a felony). While this is far from an "ideal" lifestyle it beats killing a bunch of people and then yourself. Heck, for that matter he could have probably worked on a crab fishing boat in Alaska. Hard, dangerous work, but at least he could have made decent money (up to 40K for a months work even with little experience). Again it beats murder and suicide.

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but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock?

In this case probably not. But I know several people who hunt with pistols, Glocks included.

I personally hunt with my Colt Python, my Smith and Wesson N Frame, and my Desert Eagle in .50cal. Depending on the animal, I would hunt with a Glock in the appropriate caliber, if I had any use at all for Glocks, which I don't. And many times I just hunt with my camera and a very good telephoto lens.

So, I guess I am one of the gun nuts that was refered to on one of the other threads?:rolleyes:

bob

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but do you think this guy went deer hunting with his glock?

In this case probably not. But I know several people who hunt with pistols, Glocks included.

I personally hunt with my Colt Python, my Smith and Wesson N Frame, and my Desert Eagle in .50cal. Depending on the animal, I would hunt with a Glock in the appropriate caliber, if I had any use at all for Glocks, which I don't. And many times I just hunt with my camera and a very good telephoto lens.

So, I guess I am one of the gun nuts that was refered to on one of the other threads?:rolleyes:

bob

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