Fired from first job..."not eligible for re-hire"

Retirement Countdown · May 21, 2016

People don't like the fact that employers can and will fire you during your probationary period but that's reality at MANY places. I've seen it happen a few times to people going through their probationary period. Being late one time for a real emergency might be allowed but certainly no more than that. It's a way for employers to gauge your future work habits. Also, if you made it to an interview you probably should not have mentioned that you'd been fired. You don't have to tell people your life story unless they specifically ask. In the future you'd probably be better to tell a potential employer that you had to leave because it was not a good fit for what was going on in your life at the time. I wouldn't go into the gory details of lying co-workers and being late X3 during probation, etc, etc. that sounds like too much drama and NOBODY wants to hire someone with too much drama. Good luck in the future but it sound like you need to cross this place off your list. When you get more experience, you might consider a job where you can telecommute or have flex time if being at work on time or a bit early is an issue. Also, I definitely would not use this place as a reference.

EdRnhere · May 22, 2016

Move on. Find a new place to work and follow the rules to a "T". This is how nursing is and if your school of nursing didn't hold you to toeing the line they did you a disservice.

Kooky Korky, BSN, RN · May 23, 2016

Apparently, you have scrutinized the HR attendance policy, your manager, your preceptor and the "not even magnet" facility. Try analyzing your own behavior, starting with why you can't get to work on time.

car axle broke - sounds validly late;

OP - move on

DoGoodThenGo · May 23, 2016

car axle broke - sounds validly late;
OP - move on

*LOL*

Maybe or then again maybe not.

Have seen persons discharged for lateness even though it was due to something beyond their control such as problems on the NYC subway system. And yes, their discharge was upheld and they did not receive unemployment.

It depends suppose on the situation but if you have been written up and or formally warned about coming in late, that is an end to it. You better start camping out in the parking lot or lobby, getting six alarm clocks and setting them all a few hours ahead.... anything you have to do in order to get into work "on time". For attendance purposes even one minute after official start time is "late". That is if you are due in at 9AM, then no, 9:01 is not on time.

What amazes me in these situations is people even after being spoken to about getting to work on time still cut things too close. Ideally you should aim to be in the building one half hour a minimum(give or take) before due to clock in. That gives time for various hiccups or whatever along the way.

No one is saying you have to start working; hang out in the ladies or break room. Have some coffee and a roll, put your face on... whatever; just be ready to clock in on time. People who do this and have a reputation for it IMHO often get more slack than those who constantly arrive on the dot or one minute late.

run.for.the.roses · May 23, 2016

I feel sorry for you because, apparently, you had some issues going on that made you call in/out of work or made you tardy/late and that got you fired. Maybe it was bad timing. It is true that you will *probably need to move on. The only other thing I can think to do is write a letter to the CEO.
Good luck!

Thanks :)

It became bad timing between accepting the position, and starting. I think there was a five week window. Things happen, you think you've got it, it will work itself out, I mean it always does right? Then BAM it didn't, and you're suddenly ******! But...that's life, right :) I've been applying elsewhere like crazy, and I'll write a letter or two...fingers crossed!!!

run.for.the.roses · May 23, 2016

Do you actually believe the terrible, terrible advice that you give in these sorts of threads, or are you just trolling?

Haha haha ðŸ˜‚

run.for.the.roses · May 23, 2016

I am accepting personal responsibility... I mean, but not for this and this and this. Or that.

In reality I am, on here I turned into a defensive little brat for a minute, but that's not me, really. Guess I had a "poor me" moment or two, but while I am still annoyed with the preceptor's dishonesty, I am fully aware that this is on me, I gave her any ammo she needed, got the ball rolling by being late TWICE in the first few weeks, and ultimately dug my own grave. I apologize again for the lousy attitude, that really isn't my "real life" reaction.

purplegal · May 23, 2016

I still hate to utter the words, even five months later...I was fired from my first job after only eight weeks. I just applied to a different department, and somehow my application snuck by HR. I had an interview today, and explained the situation to the manager of this unit. At the end, he said that he would contact HR to find out if I was eligible for rehire, and I said that I would also look into it. I spoke with someone in HR who apologized for allowing my application to slip through, but I in fact was not eligible for rehire. She said that the only time that she had seen that decision overturned was when the request came down from the CEO. "If you know some big whigs, you might have a shot".
Is this how it works? You get fired from the only hospital in your town, and that's it??? I would like to fight to change this status, but I don't know where to begin. HR isn't going to help, and I doubt the manager who stuck by his decision to fire me will either. I am in an "at will" state, so I am fully aware that we can be fired without reason at any time, but if hospital policy wasn't followed in the process, or a preceptor blatantly lied about some of the complaints she made against me, who would be the best person to turn to? Any feedback, advice, criticism, backlash, pity partying, or slap in the face is welcome! I still feel that this organization is where I am supposed to be, and it makes the most sense for me right now. I have had several months to reflect on the situation, and have made some life changes. I have always been willing to take full accountability for my actions.
Thanks for any help on this...

Your situation sounds extremely similar to my own. After three months and not successfully completing orientation, I was let go from a significant nursing position. In my case, they let me go back to my previous, non-nursing job, which it doesn't sound like is an option for you. When I talked to HR about possibly starting over on another unit, as a nurse, because my former unit was very intense, their response was that I needed to get experience, of at least a year, at another place. Is that an option for you? To work somewhere else for awhile and then reapply in what seems to be the distant future? See if that's possible. Unless you did something extremely terrible, I don't understand why they wouldn't someday consider you for hiring again, if you've proven you can be successful the second time around.

I am sorry you are going through this, as it is a terrible feeling and experience. Like others have said, try and gain experience elsewhere. That is what I am doing. It is not what I want, and I'm sure this is not what you want either, but sometimes we have to find our success elsewhere or wait until we are ready for some of the larger nursing jobs.

Best wishes to you.

Maevish, ASN, RN · May 24, 2016

I'm sorry this happened, but I'm here to say that people CAN make stuff up about you and you CAN be fired for it. It happened to me on a traveling assignment at a huge teaching hospital in California. A preceptor on my orientation told the manager that I was "scared of defibrillators", something I've never even thought of joking about because it's so absurd (especially for an ICU nurse)!

I was pissed off beyond belief because, as other travelers know, since I was at the end of my work week, I'd worked those 36 hours for nothing (since they don't pay you for the last week you work if you get terminated). I was beyond pissed off, there was nothing I could do about it, and I was without a job for 3 weeks (without a paycheck for 4) because other assignments didn't start until later.

I'm really sorry, but it sounds like you found another bad egg. Maybe you'll find something else soon?

xo

jamb, BSN, RN · May 25, 2016

Ooooh your story sounds familiar. I just got an involuntary termination last Monday. No heads up or anything. I feel like a piece of ******** right now. I tried my best. showed honesty and humility. but it felt like my preceptor's evaluation on me was something fabricated. I felt like crap when I got an evaluation that I'm not comfortable in giving insulin shots wherein I only just said that maybe they can show me first how they do it in their hospital and I'll do it next time. I tried to pretend that I don't know anything as I was observing their patience in teaching me. I never like simulations too and I don't like other people watching me so I think it would be unfair if they only judge my skills according to simulations. I am wondering now if we are both referring to a same hospital. I'm trying to laugh and smile but deep inside I am badly heartbroken

joanna73, BSN, RN · May 25, 2016

If you were late twice within your orientation period, that's leaving a negative impression and enough reason for termination.

It sucks but you don't have a case OP. Move on.