Finding it hard to get head around the US way

[eirthjona]

Hi

I am finding it hard to get my head around the way the US does it's nursing schools. I think australia has the right way of doing things, ie: Bachelor to be a RN, Diploma to be a EN and certificate to be AIN. sounds smart to me.

What are others points of view here about this.

Eirthjona

[gwenith, BSN, RN]

To be honest Austrlia never would have changed over to a one level entry - degree program if it weren't for some political cost shifting.

See way back when nurses were being paid in peanut shells (believe me that is when I started and everyone else was getting the nut) we were paid for classroom time. We would work 3 days clinical and have 2 days in school for 10 ir so weeks or we would have a fortnight in school so many times a year. We were paid to attend school - this was fine and dandy when we were only being paid a pittance but slowly the wages reached parity with everyone else and that was when the push REALLY started to get nursing into the universities - it was pure and simple cost saving. Especially since hospital funding comes out of the state budget and university funding comes out of the Federal budget. Added to that the universities who have always been paid per backside on seat started to count $ how$ many $ nur$e$ were $ needed $ per $ year and they started to lobby to get nursing into the tertiary ed sector. We did not do it ourselves.

[babylog2012]

hey all, I haven't been here quite a while AND please excuse my english. I'm a neonatal nurse from, well initially from Germany, worked in France, Switzerland, Australia, Scotland...always neonatal units and I need to say before you criticise other countries cause of their training have a look what they're doing. Each of them is doing a fantastic job in their own way....I'm going back to Melbourne this year though I don't agree with all the things they're doing but I think everybody is doing the best for the patient:that's what counts!!!

[Grace Oz]

Ain't that the absolute truth!!! And.... we've been going backwards ever since!!!! Nursing training BELONGS in hospitals!

Cheers,

Grace

To be honest Austrlia never would have changed over to a one level entry - degree program if it weren't for some political cost shifting.

See way back when nurses were being paid in peanut shells (believe me that is when I started and everyone else was getting the nut) we were paid for classroom time. We would work 3 days clinical and have 2 days in school for 10 ir so weeks or we would have a fortnight in school so many times a year. We were paid to attend school - this was fine and dandy when we were only being paid a pittance but slowly the wages reached parity with everyone else and that was when the push REALLY started to get nursing into the universities - it was pure and simple cost saving. Especially since hospital funding comes out of the state budget and university funding comes out of the Federal budget. Added to that the universities who have always been paid per backside on seat started to count $ how$ many $ nur$e$ were $ needed $ per $ year and they started to lobby to get nursing into the tertiary ed sector. We did not do it ourselves.

[Grace Oz]

Ain't that the absolute truth!!! And.... we've been going backwards ever since!!!! Nursing training BELONGS in hospitals!

Cheers,

Grace

To be honest Austrlia never would have changed over to a one level entry - degree program if it weren't for some political cost shifting.

See way back when nurses were being paid in peanut shells (believe me that is when I started and everyone else was getting the nut) we were paid for classroom time. We would work 3 days clinical and have 2 days in school for 10 ir so weeks or we would have a fortnight in school so many times a year. We were paid to attend school - this was fine and dandy when we were only being paid a pittance but slowly the wages reached parity with everyone else and that was when the push REALLY started to get nursing into the universities - it was pure and simple cost saving. Especially since hospital funding comes out of the state budget and university funding comes out of the Federal budget. Added to that the universities who have always been paid per backside on seat started to count $ how$ many $ nur$e$ were $ needed $ per $ year and they started to lobby to get nursing into the tertiary ed sector. We did not do it ourselves.