FILIPINO Nurses WILL find it hard to Make it in the US next Year, is it true?

sunnyjohn · Apr 14, 2006

A lot of the news floating around is invented news. The proposal before the Senate has not passed and has not come to a vote. Even if it does pass, it must be reconciled with an entirely different bill before the House. Then BOTH the House and Senate must vote on the reconciled bill before it become a law.

From what I have read of this bill and from the hours of debate I have watched on CSpan, it DOES contain a provision for foreign nurses. Check out the Shusterman site for info.

Don't let folks panic you.

Good luck and Good fortune.

suzanne4, RN · Apr 14, 2006

Until it becomes law, it is just rumor. There have been retrogressions in the past, and there will be in the future. Just depends when and for how long. None of use have crystal balls.

It will also depend on what gets passed in Congress, and made law. There may not be any slow down at this time. We just don't know.

But there are so many rumors floating around Manila right now. Someone makes one comment, and everyone immediately thinks that it is a fact.

There are always checks that can be made, if something becomes law, it will be posted all over. You can use any of the immigration website to verify anything, and you should.

lawrence01 · Apr 15, 2006

A lot of the news floating around is invented news. The proposal before the Senate has not passed and has not come to a vote. Even if it does pass, it must be reconciled with an entirely different bill before the House. Then BOTH the House and Senate must vote on the reconciled bill before it become a law.
From what I have read of this bill and from the hours of debate I have watched on CSpan, it DOES contain a provision for foreign nurses. Check out the Shusterman site for info.
Don't let folks panic you.
Good luck and Good fortune.

Actually, it does contain provisions for nurses. It's a comprehensive bill and the EB system (inc. schedule A) would be totally revised. This is also in shusterman. (you must have missed it). I think this part of the bill (whatever version of it) will contain this provisions for the EB system. Only the part of legalizing illegal immigrants (or not) is the only one hotly debated. One extreme side likes illegal immigrants to go home while the other extreme side would rather give these illegal immigrants a path to being legal and just pay fees, back taxes, and learn english. There's suppose to be a compromise deal bet. the two extremes but it didn't pull through before their easter holiday break.

For nurses, as long as you went to US legally and did not get out of status then no problem.

mtreyes · Apr 15, 2006

Actually, it does contain provisions for nurses. It's a comprehensive bill and the EB system (inc. schedule A) would be totally revised. This is also in shusterman. (you must have missed it). I think this part of the bill (whatever version of it) will contain this provisions for the EB system. Only the part of legalizing illegal immigrants (or not) is the only one hotly debated. One extreme side likes illegal immigrants to go home while the other extreme side would rather give these illegal immigrants a path to being legal and just pay fees, back taxes, and learn english. There's suppose to be a compromise deal bet. the two extremes but it didn't pull through before their easter holiday break.
For nurses, as long as you went to US legally and did not get out of status then no problem.

Thanks... :lol2:

suzanne4, RN · Apr 15, 2006

Yes, all of the bills contain provisions for nurses, but they are just included in the bills. They are not in place yet, and are still being discussed. It also depends on when they will become law, and when they will take effect. They may not take effect to January, 2007, and then you are looking at a two month hold on things.

None of us have crystal balls on this...........not the attorneys, not anyone. Until it becomes law, it doen't exist.

Things will change and change over the next few months. This happens each time. The provision is added to the bills about the illegal immigrants, it is not something separate............so until that gets solved..........that is the priority right now.

Just focus on getting all of your exams done, just as you have been doing.

lawrence01 · Apr 16, 2006

Suzanne's right and we shouldn't overly concern ourselves about this New Immigration Bill. Nurses should just concentrate on completing all the exams, req'ts and being petitioned by an employer as soon as possible. There's no point waiting on something that may come or not come. Get those papers and petitions running as soon as possible.

I just hope this issue wouldn'be be used by some agencies to pressure nurses to sign-up with them haphazardly. I've been hearing some reports already that some agencies are already using this scare tactics (about the possible bad implications of the immigration bill) to give extra pressure to nurses to sign-up with them as quickly as possible even though the nurse haven't even passed the nclex yet.

To nurses: Don't believe this agencies that do this. First of all it hasn't been passed yet and there's even a possiblity that it may not be passed and implemented this year plus if it does gets passed there aren't any bad implications concerning schedule A. From what I'm reading (and other Fil. nurses should too) there are only good implications for schedule A (and EB petitions in general). In fact, nurses should be happy IF it gets passed and implemented this year. There will be no more caps for schedule As if this bill gets implemented the soonest possible time. But then again, as Suzanne said, It's still being discussed but hopefully the provisions for the EB system (and schedule As) would be included and passed as part of the Comprehensive Immigration Bill.

mtreyes · Apr 22, 2006

Suzanne's right and we shouldn't overly concern ourselves about this New Immigration Bill. Nurses should just concentrate on completing all the exams, req'ts and being petitioned by an employer as soon as possible. There's no point waiting on something that may come or not come. Get those papers and petitions running as soon as possible.
I just hope this issue wouldn'be be used by some agencies to pressure nurses to sign-up with them haphazardly. I've been hearing some reports already that some agencies are already using this scare tactics (about the possible bad implications of the immigration bill) to give extra pressure to nurses to sign-up with them as quickly as possible even though the nurse haven't even passed the nclex yet.
To nurses: Don't believe this agencies that do this. First of all it hasn't been passed yet and there's even a possiblity that it may not be passed and implemented this year plus if it does gets passed there aren't any bad implications concerning schedule A. From what I'm reading (and other Fil. nurses should too) there are only good implications for schedule A (and EB petitions in general). In fact, nurses should be happy IF it gets passed and implemented this year. There will be no more caps for schedule As if this bill gets implemented the soonest possible time. But then again, as Suzanne said, It's still being discussed but hopefully the provisions for the EB system (and schedule As) would be included and passed as part of the Comprehensive Immigration Bill.

hello lawrence and suzzane, thanks for hte info you keep on sharing to us.... who wanted to have brighter future for our families...:monkeydance: :biggringi

ZATHAN · Apr 22, 2006

Actually it was officially announced by the Department of State Visa Office that Schedule A visa numbers would be exhausted around the first quarter of the fiscal year 2007 (which would start at October 1, 2006). It only means two things 1. cut off dates for Sch A will roll back depending on the DOS VISA OFFICE predictions or 2. Schedule A will be deleted from the list and nurses with a Bachelor's Degree will eat visa from the normal EB3 pool which is backlogged for 5 years in the Philippines.

That is why we need a comprehensive immigration reform. This is not a LIE. Do the math if Schedule A visa numbers would be exhausted AND IT IS FOR SURE IT WILL BE EXHAUSTED! and no bills were enacted to be laws for the relief of nurses...THEN EVEN IF YOU HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE EXAMS...THEY WILL ALL EXPIRE BECAUSE OF THE LONG WAIT...and your American Dream will be a frustration!

ZATHAN

Daning · Apr 23, 2006

It will be difficult if...

1) you haven't passed all the required exams

2) you don't start working in securing/compiling all your docuemnts soon

3) you risk your application by being involved with agencies that has no proven track record

4) you take short cuts and don't go through the legal route

...otherwise, i guess we're still fine. as for number 3, i strongly suggest that you read the different threads/posts here regarding agencies. don't be a victim! if you're really determined and patient, do it yourself and don't rely to those who just take advantage!