Failed CRNE for the 2nd time, HELP!

northernRNalgonquin · Nov 12, 2011

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that in order to be eligible to write the NCLEX you have to hold a nursing license in Ontario. I remember reading that somewhere, but I would check that out for yourself first

electricblack · Nov 12, 2011

Thank you for the helpful response janfrn. This will definitely help ease some of my financial burden, but they did mention that it's only a 10-day course while the Toronto School of Health is a 1-month thing (plus money back guarantee if you do not pass-which is pretty tempting). I just checked out your second link and it definitely help made my mind up!

I really refuse to go do my 3rd attempt without knowing for sure that I am ready and well prepared.

I guess I will have to retract my comment about job openings in the US. I need to further look into that before considering it.

**...and northernRNalgonquin I really would appreciate it if you could clarify that for me further :)

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Nov 12, 2011

Most states do require licensure in the jurisdiction where you were educated before they'll license you. There are a handful of them that don't have that requirement, but really not many. There's a valid reason for that requirement - after all, if you're not or never were registered where you were educated, how do they know you're actually eligible for registration anywhere? Every province in Canada except Quebec has that requirement; even if you graduated from a very well-known university in Ontario, for example, you could write your exam in Alberta but CARNA wouldn't even contemplate registering you until you registered in Ontario first. I precepted a nurse who did exactly that... She wrote here in June of that year, got her results some time in August but she didn't want to pay all the money required to register in Ontario then register for the remainder of the current year here (Alberta renews on October 1) AND for the subsequent year. It was a problem. She couldn't work as an RN even though she'd passed the exam because she didn't have an Alberta practice permit, and on our unit there are LOTS of things a GN cannot do. But when it comes right down to it, the colleges of nursing have a legal obligation to protect the public from unskilled practice and this is one of the ways they do that.

ETA: I wouldn't believe anything about a money-back guarantee from Toronto School of Health. As I pointed out their website has disclaimers on EVERY page saying that they do not promise that successful completion of their program will result in passing the CRNE. Really, all they guarantee is that you'll be out $950 and they'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

basel73591 · Nov 13, 2011

hello everybody, i failed the first attempt the one in october 2011, the passing score was 128 out of the 180, which is too much, is trend now to make the exam more diffecult or what.

and i want to ask if somebody recommend CRNE course in toronto? and which moseby book is good the questions or the review? beside the 4'th and 5'th edition prep guideline. i really want to pass so please advice and which course to take?

Nur123 · May 8, 2012

Hi

I would really like to know what tutor you hired. Was it someone professional like a nursing school teacher. I need to organize how i study with a tutor as well because i just dont seem to remember what i learn from indepentant readings. Please help im really desperate to succeed in this field.

Thank You in advance

electricblack · Nov 11, 2012

Just an update, I took the exam for the third time this October at Pearson Convention (1 year since my last try and the exact same place). I took Nurses Education Workshop at Wilson/Toronto for a full month and guess what, I passed!!!!With prayers, loads of effort, and with this class' help I passed, but remembered leaving that exam being 1000% sure that I failed. I used up all my time, and treated every questions as individual. I realized that from the last two exams I corelated all questions that are under case studies which was not the case. So if anyone's doing it for the third time, dont lose hope. You gotta want it bad enough.

electricblack · Nov 12, 2012

Just to expand, make sure to not rush to your next attempt. Plan it well. I took a year off to save up for a good course, saved up for transportation and food during the course, made sure i had a month and a week off for the course and exam day. I was pretty organized. I did not study until the course started. I did some reading here and there but nothing significant until a month before the exam.Remember, if it's your 2nd attempt, treat it like its your last, and if it's your last attempt do everything you can. If you will fail, dont have regrets that you held back with your studies. I took a course and gave it my all. This really helped me motivate. I had the copies of my past 2 exam results with me all the time to remind me how close i got and that i am in control :). It is up to me to pass. There will be loads of people who'd take advantage of your desperation. Don't bother with the recheck for 50 dollars, there's no point. Focus on finding a legit prep course cuz they really do help, don't risk studying on your own. I took the Nurses Education Inc course in toronto campus. They offered 14, 16, and 20 days and i took the maximum which cost me 1200, the cheapest for the amount of time that they offered. A friend of mine took a 2000 dollar course and the class was much bigger. I wanted a smaller class so the instructor knows their students and can help them individually and provide helpful individualized feedbacks. And that's exactly what i got. We did mock exams at the end of the course and i found that my reading skills improved drastically. The marks for the mock exams also seemed rather accurate in determining if you have improved. I sat at the front of the class, made sure that the instructor knew it was my third attempt. I participated and listened to all the questions being asked. The class went on from 930am to 5pm and by the time i got home i was exhausted. I do some homework before bed or on my way to class but i find that the time in class is enough to count as a study time. The class ended one week before the October 3 2012 CRNE and she recommended we took breaks. But i paired up with some people, maximum of 4 to study. With help from each other, some great simplified Youtube videos, and some extra researching on the CNO website (they have a lot of PDF files) we managed to gain some confidence writing that exam.The marking for the exam also changed. I heard from those that failed that the passing mark was 550 and was mentioned that some questions apparently weighed heavier than others based on its difficulty or category(critical thinking, knowledge...), but that i need further clarification. I swear this exam was also the hardest out of the 3. There were much more vague questions and it left me thinking that i really did fail. I got my results 5 weeks and a day later, and i'm from brampton/mississauga area. I hope some of this info helped. To those that failed, try not to be so down, this exam was truly hard. Use it to motivate you better on your next attempt. Or if it was your last try, i believe that you can Appeal for a 4th attempt. And again, watch out for those classes who are just after your money!!!

agiboma, BSN, MSN, NP · Nov 12, 2012

@eletricblak congrats all the best

Sadaf · Nov 13, 2012

Just to expand, make sure to not rush to your next attempt. Plan it well. I took a year off to save up for a good course, saved up for transportation and food during the course, made sure i had a month and a week off for the course and exam day. I was pretty organized. I did not study until the course started. I did some reading here and there but nothing significant until a month before the exam.Remember, if it's your 2nd attempt, treat it like its your last, and if it's your last attempt do everything you can. If you will fail, dont have regrets that you held back with your studies. I took a course and gave it my all. This really helped me motivate. I had the copies of my past 2 exam results with me all the time to remind me how close i got and that i am in control :). It is up to me to pass. There will be loads of people who'd take advantage of your desperation. Don't bother with the recheck for 50 dollars, there's no point. Focus on finding a legit prep course cuz they really do help, don't risk studying on your own. I took the Nurses Education Inc course in toronto campus. They offered 14, 16, and 20 days and i took the maximum which cost me 1200, the cheapest for the amount of time that they offered. A friend of mine took a 2000 dollar course and the class was much bigger. I wanted a smaller class so the instructor knows their students and can help them individually and provide helpful individualized feedbacks. And that's exactly what i got. We did mock exams at the end of the course and i found that my reading skills improved drastically. The marks for the mock exams also seemed rather accurate in determining if you have improved. I sat at the front of the class, made sure that the instructor knew it was my third attempt. I participated and listened to all the questions being asked. The class went on from 930am to 5pm and by the time i got home i was exhausted. I do some homework before bed or on my way to class but i find that the time in class is enough to count as a study time. The class ended one week before the October 3 2012 CRNE and she recommended we took breaks. But i paired up with some people, maximum of 4 to study. With help from each other, some great simplified Youtube videos, and some extra researching on the CNO website (they have a lot of PDF files) we managed to gain some confidence writing that exam.The marking for the exam also changed. I heard from those that failed that the passing mark was 550 and was mentioned that some questions apparently weighed heavier than others based on its difficulty or category(critical thinking, knowledge...), but that i need further clarification. I swear this exam was also the hardest out of the 3. There were much more vague questions and it left me thinking that i really did fail. I got my results 5 weeks and a day later, and i'm from brampton/mississauga area. I hope some of this info helped. To those that failed, try not to be so down, this exam was truly hard. Use it to motivate you better on your next attempt. Or if it was your last try, i believe that you can Appeal for a 4th attempt. And again, watch out for those classes who are just after your money!!!

Hi there ,,, I just wanted to know if you were an IEN or Canadian Graduate and if this was ur last attempt and by taking this course did you pass with all the added efforts of ofcourse that you put in

electricblack · Nov 13, 2012

Hi there ,,, I just wanted to know if you were an IEN or Canadian Graduate and if this was ur last attempt and by taking this course did you pass with all the added efforts of ofcourse that you put in

Thank you :). And i am a Canadian Grad. But I made the huge mistake of underestimating the exam's difficulty level. And i've had international nurses in my prep course that also passed. I do find that if your an ESL you might need to practice more since the test requires your thorough understanding before making a decision for your answers

gurpreetsingh · Nov 28, 2012

Hi Electricblack, where is this prep course. I don't have much money but need some help. Can you tell me how to study? I am scheduled to write in february, but I may have to do in June instead. I just failed and it is very stressful

electricblack · Jan 12, 2013

hey gurpreet sorry for the very late reply but I took the full $1200 course from nurses ed inc its just one subway stop of yorkdale mall and its a decent price ive heard ppl paid more. Its a 9-430 class and it really helped me. I saved up big because its my last try and I dont wanna cheapin out but at the same time I wanted a course where I knew people that passed and this one was highly recommended by friends. I live in brampton so it was a long bus trip back and forth but it was worth it. mind you not everyone passed in that course but trust me it hepps if you really try.