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I failed anatomy twice at Ivy Tech and of course they will not allow me to take it again. I love learning about health care and I really want to be a nurse. I am a nursing assistant now and I love my job but I want to graduate with a degree and I definitely love nursing and I don't want to give up on it but I don't know what to do. They wont allow you to retake it for 5 years. Isnt that a little long? What is the point of waiting five years to take it again. Is there any way to get there sooner?
Exactly, remember guys she didn't fail a nursing course were the percent to pass is 75%. She is having trouble getting a 60% in a class she had previously taken. Her problem is the material/study methods, and the outcome is not going to change by just getting in another shot at the course.
Exactly, remember guys she didn't fail a nursing course were the percent to pass is 75%. She is having trouble getting a 60% in a class she had previously taken. Her problem is the material/study methods, and the outcome is not going to change by just getting in another shot at the course.
It might, if she learns what she did wrong adequately. You make a good point however where I am at a D is considered failing so she would need at least a 70, and to get into a nursing program you really should shoot for at the 80s or better.
I suggested she transfer however because otherwise her science classes are going to expire if it is the same way as where I am at, meaning it will take her more than five years just to get back into A and P. Realistically she would have to wait 6 to eight years just to get into a nursing program.
My suggestion for passing A and P is intense tutoring. Identify where you struggled, if you struggled early, maybe retake the bio courses you need to get into A and P.
Its my first time through, and in two weeks we have nearly exhausted all the topics we went over in the first two bio course I took. We are already moving on to new material.
IMO she doesn't need to be in an AP course to realize what she did wrong. She can take a look at assignments, test scores, and even talk with her instructors to see were she was going wrong. I am not advocating her waiting for 5 years to get AP done but rather before she rush in to fix her shortcomings as far as studying. Maybe she needs to make some lifestyle changes to facilitate her passing this class in the future, and like you said passing with a C does not make you a competitive nursing candidate anyway. She needs to go from back to back failures to a B to be competitive. Best of luck to OP and if you need/want tips please post your study routines and maybe we can help you out.
IMO she doesn't need to be in an AP course to realize what she did wrong. She can take a look at assignments, test scores, and even talk with her instructors to see were she was going wrong. I am not advocating her waiting for 5 years to get AP done but rather before she rush in to fix her shortcomings as far as studying. Maybe she needs to make some lifestyle changes to facilitate her passing this class in the future, and like you said passing with a C does not make you a competitive nursing candidate anyway. She needs to go from back to back failures to a B to be competitive. Best of luck to OP and if you need/want tips please post your study routines and maybe we can help you out.
All of these are good suggestions OP. Don't give up, but clearly something needs to change if you are going to finish with a nursing degree.
"The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing again, and expecting different results."
I think there is a possible issue of academic maturity here, an individual learning curve, and a problem with his/her study methods. There is no easy way out, and sadly many students that I have tutored in the pre-nursing pathway or sciences tend to want to take the easy way out. There is no such thing as an easy A. The material may be easy for you, but you still need to have comprehension and knowledge of the material. I think a student in this situation should never take a accelerated A & P course, they need the flexibility to study in a normal 12-16 week semester. Academic maturity is a difficult issue to diagnose here, since the only people that are qualified to do that would be her personal tutor or professor. If she has too many things going on in her life, namely; work, emotional distractions, and financial obligations. This may not be the right time to consider taking such a weighted 2 part course, or this may not be the career path for him or her. Unless its death of a loved one or spousal problems, I recommend to all my present and past tutoring students that struggled before meet me its not worth dating someone new when taking anatomy. I help mentally couch them on a path to success to the point where the 2 A & P professors ask to invite me to their 1st lecture to recommend my services. An experienced tutor could facilitate several studying strategies on how to improve that learning curve and address studying problems. I in particular have made simplified powerpoint slides for each chapter, which forced me to get more engaged with the learning material, if you become engaged in any subject you'll have a better hand at mastering the new material. Every student requires a unique method that works for them. My hardest challenge in human anatomy were the practicums, but with each challenge I forced myself to adapt. The key to a lot of these personal errors is giving yourself enough time to study from the start of the week and sticking with a regular study pattern. Consider it this way if you are struggling: Wake up (grab some tea or coffee) review your lecture notes or powerpoint slides, go to lecture (NEVER MISS LECTURE!!!), go to lab (NEVER MISS LAB!!!), study with your tutor, and before you go to bed study again. Everyday of the week you should expose your mind 2-5 times per day with A & P material. This same strategy works for general chemistry and general microbiology. Find a tutor, but shop around. And for those students that are on a cup of noodle budget; Khan Academy. His online tutoring sessions are extremely professional (with few errors).
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This is a really good idea. Find out if you can transfer to another college, or if you can take classes at another college and transfer credits, then start out with intro to AP, or even intro to biology. Work your way up. It is very difficult to go into a good nursing program without good grades in your science classes, and honestly even if you did get it you would have a very difficult time keeping up with your cohort without the good base that A/P gives you.