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ENP programs

Hey all,

I was wondering if you all knew which universities had Emergency NP programs. I thought UT-Houston and Loyola were the only two but I guess Emory has a program now!

My question is, are these programs similar as in, do they all teach intubation, chest tube insertion, and advanced suturing? Thanks.

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What boards will you take though, as an ENP?

Remember, they dont even have CCNP or ACNP as a designation anymore. the ANCC is now the certifying agency (the AACN gave it up) and your designation will be APRN, BC.

you might just consider an acute care track if that's the exam you have to take. the clinicals should be individual to your wants/needs.

Hey all,

I was wondering if you all knew which universities had Emergency NP programs. I thought UT-Houston and Loyola were the only two but I guess Emory has a program now!

My question is, are these programs similar as in, do they all teach intubation, chest tube insertion, and advanced suturing? Thanks.

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What boards will you take though, as an ENP?

Remember, they dont even have CCNP or ACNP as a designation anymore. the ANCC is now the certifying agency (the AACN gave it up) and your designation will be APRN, BC.

you might just consider an acute care track if that's the exam you have to take. the clinicals should be individual to your wants/needs.

I believe all the ENP programs have you sit for the FNP certification. That is fine by me cuz I want to do family practice after ER.

When I contacted Loyola they said you do ACNP and the subspecialty of ENP.

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Yeah Loyola and Northwestern (I believe that's the other on in Chicago) have what they call ENP programs. However, in the state of IL in order to see kids ya gotta test for the FNP or PNP. As an ACNP in IL you can not see kids. Now they are allowing the ACNPs to see kids but I'm sure they are doing under the the MDs license (or some other way) as it is out of the scope of practice for an ACNP to see those under the age of 16.

Best way to go (in IL and IMHO), is to do two tracks: ACNP and PNP. This ensures you can legally see all ages.

There is no test for ENP at the moment.

So does the ENP just allow you to put on your CV that your FNP or ACNP program was focused in emergency medicine? How much extra time does it take to dual certify (e.g. ACNP and PNP)? Do most schools allow you to do this combo program even if it isn't officially listed on their website?

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There's no shortcut as far as I know: you have to complete two programs. I did the adult health CNS and finished in May 2006 and now I'm back for a post-MSN certificate as a peds CNS.

The university of south carolina has an ACNP with a peds option. It's the only one I've heard of thus far

The university of south carolina has an ACNP with a peds option. It's the only one I've heard of thus far

Rush University and Duke University also offer Pediatric Acute Care NP.

South Carolina is a combination adult/peds you take like 2 extra classes for peds.

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You just need to make sure that you take a certifying exam for adults and one for peds too.

This is the biggie with the RUsh program. I run into the program director at a conference that we both attended and she states that they have pediatric clinicals. However, they take the ACNP exam and in IL, that only allows you to see people age 16 and up. So...it doesn't matter what kind of clinicals you take, if you don't take the certifying exam to see both adults and kids, you are still stuck.

You just need to make sure that you take a certifying exam for adults and one for peds too.

This is the biggie with the RUsh program. I run into the program director at a conference that we both attended and she states that they have pediatric clinicals. However, they take the ACNP exam and in IL, that only allows you to see people age 16 and up. So...it doesn't matter what kind of clinicals you take, if you don't take the certifying exam to see both adults and kids, you are still stuck.

My main goal is to work in a Level I Trauma Center as a Trauma NP (not a Children's hospital). Would my best bet be to complete a ACNP program and then while worknig as a ACNP, go back and do a post-masters ACPNP program?

UT-Arlington also has a ENP program that is fairly good. Graduates are certified as FNPs in order to cover them from birth to death. Programs vary in how they prepare students. Some really only arrange your clinicals in ERs or more acute settings but otherwise not any different. The better programs actually offer some modification of whatever base program you would be certified in (ACNP, FNP, etc...) to prepare you for the unique nature of emergency care. Since you said your goal was to work in a level I trauma center I would think that the more specialize training you can get related to emergency medicine would be advantageous. And yes, all ENP programs really do is pad your resume, your certification will be the same as any other FNP or ACNP but hopefully your program will give you more specific didactics and clinicals that will better prepare you for the ER.

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