I'm a telecom Engineer here in USA who's currently holding an H1-B visa. My wife and I are planning to go back to the phil.to take up a Nursing Course. Do you think this is a good move ? If yes, how long will it take to finish the course since we're both have a previous degree ? We also inquire if we just going to enroll on the RN program in a local community college here in Washington but due to shortage of instructors and a lot of students enrolling on the course, the waiting time is 2 yrs.
from what i understand from uberdoog, he's merely suggesting for bitoy123 to think hard about his decison to go back home as he could just be jumping from the frying pan to the fire. uberdoog may be harsh, yeah (sorry uber, you're too unconventional, "wicked" for the forum.. ), but the guy's talking sense. he's just responding to another's call for advise. i hope bitoy123 got the real inputs straight despite the stinging wit... for this case, i'd think it's worth to play it cool.
from what i understand from uberdoog, he's merely suggesting for bitoy123 to think hard about his decison to go back home as he could just be jumping from the frying pan to the fire. uberdoog may be harsh, yeah (sorry uber, you're too unconventional, "wicked" for the forum.. ), but the guy's talking sense. he's just responding to another's call for advise. i hope bitoy123 got the real inputs straight despite the stinging wit... for this case, i'd think it's worth to play it cool.
Yes, she does talk sense like you said but some statements could have been said more politely (sorry uber) I think because from my exp. those kind of posts really are open to many mis-interpretations and this is where the conflicts arise from fellow posters.
We better let go of this topic now before it esclates esp. since the orig. poster I think already got the message. I hope no more harsh words will be posted. This is the best Nursing forum in the whole world and let's keep it that way.
Your point is taken but you have to read the whole message to understand the context. Uberdoog wasn't criticizing but setting a tone of disbelief and caution. As you will note in the last paragraph, he stated the facts relevant to making that decision and even ended with the question of "what do you think?" That translates to "what is your decision?" Also your pleadings of patriotism are very nice but may I ask why you took up nursing, doctor? What do you think the bulk of the discussions in this forum are about if not moving on to another country?
if someone would write "have you had your head checked lately", that is criticism already....
as for me taking up nursing, a patriot is not defined as someone who is literally in his own country.....our national hero Jose Rizal and the Luna brothers were based in Europe when they started the revolution.....my ethnic background is not malay like most filipinos but i consider myself a true filipino and a patriot. i notice that a lot of filipino nurses here in the forum do not have the philippines under country but i clearly indicated that my country is the philippines
bulk of the discussions here are about moving out of the philippines that is why Bitoy is planning to take up nursing. but to criticise one because he plans to take up nursing in the philippines because uberdoog thinks the philippines sucks big time is another thing......
I support Bitoy all the way, If you want to be a nurse and go to Philippines to get your BSN degree, go ahead. I think that is a wise move. We have a lot of universities that offer a good nursing program. My friend who is a clinical instructor in Manila, said that she has students from United states who are now enrolled in their BSN program.
Some of us worry too much about his Visa status and his financial capabilities. He is a smart man, and he will not consider taking up nursing in PI if he does not have the resources.
Philippines is a beautiful country, I have loved every minute of living in my beloved motherland. To say that "Philippine sucks" is out of bounds. Rips my heart to pieces when i see comments like this.
As for moving to another country, much as i love PI, Love won't pay my bills, i can't live with my parents all my life, i have to move on. do something.
As for MDs who take up nursing, what is wrong with that? I know the hardships these doctors have to go through, years in college and in medical school and then residency, and they are not paid enough.I should know, my sister is a doctor, she finished her residency and passed her test to be a consultant but still, I am paying for her car.
Staying in Philippines and be one of the millions of Filipinos unemployed is not being patriotic. To leave the Philippines and contribute to better this country, that is Patriotism. To leave the Philippines and call it names, and say it sucks and never look back........hmm i rest my case.
I wish you luck bitoy, There are a lot of Good nursing school in PI, choose wisely.
Bitoy, since you are a Canadian citizen and have a degree, why not move back to Canada and enroll in an Accelerated BSN degree? That means you will only do 2 years and will pay far much less for it since you are a citizen. Also your wife can work and support you while you are in school.
Before I went here in the US, I inquired on the nursing program they offered in George Brown College (Toronto) last 2003. I took an entrance test and I passed it. The problem is when they assessed my educational background ( which is engineering ), they wanted me to get the required prerequisites subject which are Grade 12 chemistry and biology. This drives me nuts.In the first place they should tell me first that I should take up take said subjects before I took an entrance test.And then, they going to put you on the waiting list because they prioritize the students who finished secondary education in Canada.
BTW, please let me know if there's other schools (in toronto) that offers BSN accelerated program and you don't need to be on the waiting list.
Regards.
Bitoy, since you are a Canadian citizen and have a degree, why not move back to Canada and enroll in an accelerated BSN degree? That means you will only do 2 years and will pay far much less for it since you are a citizen. Also your wife can work and support you while you are in school.
Bitoy, would you consider going to the LPN program first? some of my new RNs took up LPN courses first then took the RN program. Some of them are now doing their BSN online, that way they can support themselves.
We have one LPN student who finished college in Visayas, he wanted to enroll in the RN program but he has to wait for like a year, now he will finish school this august and is now preparing for his RN program. Good thing about it is that they also considered subjects taken in Philippines.
Are you in Washington DC? have you checked schools in Va? I just dunno if that will cost you, i mean they might charge out of state tuition, and yep its gonna be a drive. I am not familiar with Alexandria since that is northern part of Va, but they might have good schools there. But I know in Charlottesville they have UVA hospital and they have a very good nursing program, and they might accept more students since they are big universities.
In Richmond we have VCU and in Petersburg (Southern part of VA) which is an hour from my place, they have SRMC. I see their adds in the Newspaper so they might have a slot. also, in SRMC , they have a accelerated 12 month RN program, I am not sure if these is correct.(need to call them)
Moving might not be an option considering your visa is H1b, maybe your wife can study first then when she finish, she will be the one to support you. You see if you go back to Philippines it might take you 3 years to finish your BSN, here you can be an RN in two years, and just take your BSN online, study and earn at the same time.
I think I have just exhausted all our options:idea: hope i helped you, if not confuse you!
Before I went here in the US, I inquired on the nursing program they offered in George Brown College (Toronto) last 2003. I took an entrance test and I passed it. The problem is when they assessed my educational background ( which is engineering ), they wanted me to get the required prerequisites subject which are Grade 12 chemistry and biology. This drives me nuts.In the first place they should tell me first that I should take up take said subjects before I took an entrance test.And then, they going to put you on the waiting list because they prioritize the students who finished secondary education in Canada.
BTW, please let me know if there's other schools (in toronto) that offers BSN accelerated program and you don't need to be on the waiting list.
Regards.
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i suppose there's no way to avoid taking prerequisite subjects despite your degree. (maybe explaining why they're called pre-reqs in the first place...=) i hold a non-science bs degree (and mba units) and just like you, i was advised to take chemistry. everyone else who had chemistry up to the past 5 years moved up to take anatomy, microbio ahead of me...yes, kids. it was disconcerting at first but since i'm really on becoming a nurse, i swallowed my pride and took chemistry soon as i got my student status approved (shifted from visitor's visa). then i arranged to get my other subjects like psych, english, humanities credited....about 18 units towards the nursing associate degree. after chem, i took the major sciences (anatomy, etc.) then moved to apply to the nursing program and recently got in.
i don't know how it works where you are (i'm in connecticut) but it may help if you can further inquire. i first matriculated as a "gen. studies" major then applied to the nursing program. there's also a waitlist but it was for those who applied but didn't quite make it (there's only a given number of slots available as against the total applicants). so, it's important to get a headstart and do well as much as you can. i've never been a serious student but this time around, i promised myself i'd do good....somehow, the conditioning did me wonders. even if i had to spend a year outside nursing, i took courses relevant to the degree so i didn't have to take thme with the nursing clinicals.
i don't remember anyone posting "the phils. sucks..." "the phil. ECONOMY sucks" were the exact words. really now, we can't argue with the truth, can we? more importantly, the statement, in the context of the orig. post (uberdoog's) SIMPLY supports why many of us are getting out of the phils. and shouldn't be taken as a reflection of the poster's (or anyone's) loyalties (or claimed loyalties...."patriotism").
also "have you had your head checked lately" wasn't meant to demean...come on, we drop these words (i.e. nasisiraan ka na ba? ano ka, baliw? ) often in friendly, playful exchanges with people not to literally question their capacity to process but mainly to express our disbelief (lone stranger = sharp shooter) and persuade them to reconsider their stand. oddly so, it could be even endearing (sorry, no better word) because we all know a real friend wouldn't hesitate to shake you up if only to set you in the right direction.
if someone would write "have you had your head checked lately", that is criticism already....
that's the problem, doc. you've got to learn to read and not resort to kneejerk reactions that are based on your gut and not on the text.
a patriot is defined... my ethnic background is... i clearly indicated that my country is the philippine
all irrelevant, doc. the topic is not patriotism but where people are headed: into the philippines or out of it. fact remains: you went out. bitoy was considering going back in (to study).
but to criticise one because he plans to take up nursing in the philippines because uberdoog thinks the philippines sucks big time is another thing......
you need glasses, doc, because uber never said that. you did. oh, and finally, bitoy asked for advice. uber responded. you shussed uber. who asked you? uber didn't.
), but the guy's talking sense. he's just responding to another's call for advise. i hope bitoy123 got the real inputs straight despite the stinging wit... for this case, i'd think it's worth to play it cool.
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from what i understand from uberdoog, he's merely suggesting for bitoy123 to think hard about his decison to go back home as he could just be jumping from the frying pan to the fire. uberdoog may be harsh, yeah (sorry uber, you're too unconventional, "wicked" for the forum..
), but the guy's talking sense. he's just responding to another's call for advise. i hope bitoy123 got the real inputs straight despite the stinging wit... for this case, i'd think it's worth to play it cool.