El Centro/ Northlake-----Spring 07

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congratulations! to everyone that is starting in january!

i'm so excited to meet everyone-please introduce yourself!

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Specializes in Operating Room.

Good luck to everyone on their check-offs this week!!!!!

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Specializes in OR Internship starting in Jan!!.

Hey -- I have a quick question: what is "voiding spontaneously"? To me, that would mean that they cannot control when they urinate, right? But that doesn't make sense with "If voiding spontaneously, assess pattern."

Help?

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Specializes in ante/postpartum, baby RN.
Hey -- I have a quick question: what is "voiding spontaneously"? To me, that would mean that they cannot control when they urinate, right? But that doesn't make sense with "If voiding spontaneously, assess pattern." Help?

That's a good question. For me, it means that pt can void and doesn't need catheter. So you can ask about the frequency, color, amount, etc. What do you all think?

And good luck with PA. :D

Katie

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Specializes in Postpartum/Nursery.
That's a good question. For me, it means that pt can void and doesn't need catheter. So you can ask about the frequency, color, amount, etc. What do you all think?

And good luck with PA. :D

Katie

I agree... at some facilities, voiding spontaneously replaces the "WNL" on the charts.

-Brianna

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Specializes in Operating Room.
That's a good question. For me, it means that pt can void and doesn't need catheter. So you can ask about the frequency, color, amount, etc. What do you all think?

And good luck with PA. :D

Katie

That's exactly right...frequency, amount, color, clarity, burning, itching. The pt is voiding spontaneously without a catheter. If not spontaneously, you look at the cath bag to see color/amount/clarity.

Amount is important because if it is dribbling then it could indicate UTI, same with freq, clarity, burning.....

All you ever wanted to know about urinating spontaneously, and then some. :roll

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Specializes in OR Internship starting in Jan!!.

Yet another reason why I love this board :D Thanks!!!

Ahh, I had to look it up in Webster, because spontaneous doesn't mean that to me. But, it looks like they are using the 3rd definition:

3 : controlled and directed internally : SELF-ACTING

So, now I understand that. What about "assesses pattern." What do I say? 'How many times have you gone to the bathroom today?' Is that enough for the 'pattern,' or do I need more (maybe, 'how many times a day do you normally go to the bathroom?')?

Thanks so much!!

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Specializes in ante/postpartum, baby RN.
So, now I understand that. What about "assesses pattern." What do I say? 'How many times have you gone to the bathroom today?' Is that enough for the 'pattern,' or do I need more (maybe, 'how many times a day do you normally go to the bathroom?')?

You can ask both. How many times today and if it is a normal pattern for the pt. Then ask everything else that Funny described. (It also depends on your instructor. Some of them have specific requirements for PA. :uhoh3: )

Katie

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Specializes in OR Internship starting in Jan!!.

Awesome -- I like asking if it is a normal pattern; that makes sense to me.

Thanks again for the quick help!!!

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Specializes in ER.

Who'd have though spontaneous urination could have created so much conversation! LOL

Yang

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Specializes in Operating Room.

I guess that officially makes AllNurses.com the watering hole. :lol2:

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Specializes in OR Internship starting in Jan!!.

*groan* Oh, Fun, I cannot believe you went there! lol

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Specializes in Operating Room.

:rotfl: Jaxia.......mindless humor.

(because the mind was gone a longgggggggggggggg time ago.)

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