Don't Know What To Do.. (Prospective Student)

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I've been a ghost on these forums for quite some time now, I've read everything from the gleaming posts of those that love their jobs to the endless negative posts by those who probably would have been better suited for a different profession.

So far I have been able to wade through the negativity while keeping my head held high enough to keep an interest in the medical field... though it's getting harder and harder. This is my story so far...

Let's throw one thing out there to give you some better perspective. I am a male and I'm 27 years old.

Growing up I never had an interest in school, I hated everything about it. As much as I was told what I did here would impact my future... I didn't listen and found it more entertaining to spend my teenage years being a teenager.

I spent a majority of my 20's being... well, what would be a continuation of being a teenager. During these years I went to college twice, both times with not much interest in what I was doing. First I went to college for Computer Programming, and then a few years later I went for Acting. I dropped out both times. Decided college was not for me, as there was nothing that interested me - though I didn't give it much thought either.

I've done a few odd jobs here and there. I've worked in Radio, Film etc and while I loved these jobs, finding secure jobs in these avenues are near impossible. In the end I interned for Radio (without pay) for an entire year and never got a job, and watched all my successful friends in Radio get fired. Film is even more fickle and ultimately is just a great way to end up as a waiter/waitress.

I've also worked as a bartender, grocery bagger, customer service representative, dating coach, entrepreneur, writer, and publisher. None of these careers have felt right to me.

I am also a rescue diver, and during my rescue and CPR/first responder courses, some of the stories peaked my interest in a medical related field. The rush of saving lives intrigued me, I've always been an adrenaline junkie.

I for quite awhile wanted to go into firefighting, and knew that you had to have your EMT license to do that... so I started researching that. While Firefighting had the rush that I was looking for most of the time, I psyched myself out, and ultimately wasn't comfortable with putting myself into a burning building.

So what about EMT-B? Well, an exciting job to be sure, but for poor wages and not much advancement. Paramedics pay increase for an additional 1 and a half years of schooling didn't seem to be worth it either.

I dropped this idea for a few months since I missed the deadline for classes anyways.

During this time I had to do some short term care.

My grandmother has dialysis, and she goes to have this done a few times a week. Usually one of her daughters takes her, but as they were out of town I took the job. I had to pick her up from her nursing home, help her get her stuff ready, help her out the door, into the car, out of the car, into the dialysis center, to where she needed to go.. and then I would have to pick her up later and do it all over again. This of course is pretty simple stuff, but I enjoyed it and it once again piqued my interest in the medical profession.

(Side note about working with the elderly - I'ts amazing how we spend most of our lives trying to act like we are strong , but in the end all we all have to show everyone just how weak we really are, I think that has to be hardest part of growing older)

So I started looking into it some more, it didn't really dawn on me before to go back to college or even that there might be jobs similar to an EMT-B in the hospitals but as I researched I found jobs that would be suited to my need for a rush and my desire to help others. All of them in the nursing field.

Coming to this idea was a shock to me, since my mother has been a nurse for a very long time and I had never considered following in her footsteps.

ER Nurse, OR Nurse, ICU Nurse etc.. All of these specialties looked amazing to me. Many with the ability to travel (my favorite thing to do!) As quickly as I got excited, my excitement was dashed away.

5-7 year waiting lists? I'm already 27!

So I researched some more... I don't like accepting defeat.

Schools that don't have waiting lists? Sure they are out there but my GPA cumulative from the few courses I took in college are at a resounding 2.33. Well, that's not good enough to get into those schools.

Military nursing programs? Sure - Always a possibility, but a sure fire way to get deployed (even if you are in the reserves, nurses get shipped out all the time - and as much as I respect the soldiers who do fight for America, I'm not about to spend 4 years on a BSN, only to get shot over seas.

Alright, Alright.. seems I am out of options. Not quite.. I researched more..

I can spend time getting my GPA up by working my prereqs? - Well I could, and I would - if I knew what prereqs to take. It seems all the no-wait schools have different prereqs that they require. I take a few and maybe I can apply to ONE school and get denied just to attempt again a year later? No, I'd rather be able to apply to multiple schools.

On top of all this.. tuition is another scary subject. I have no money, and am deeply afraid of collecting high debt (as ive never been in debt) and not being able to pay it back. How in the world am I going to be able to afford this? I'm coming to the conclusion that... I'm not going to be able to afford it.

More Options? Well, I looked at Rogers State University since my best friend is moving to Oklahoma and they only look at 5 prereqs for your GPA. You ace those courses I can't imagine it would be hard to get into the program. Problem is - they are a university and are EXPENSIIIVE. If i were a resident of Oklahoma the prices wouldnt be too bad but since I'm from Michigan they jump from 100 to 300 (plus a ton of additional fees) Next. :(

Frustrated by my lack of options at this point, and a need to make money NOW as opposed to later. I figured I could work on my GPA while maybe getting my foot in the door.

Turns out EMT-Bs can work as an ER Tech in a hospital, awesome!! Classes start next month, well.. I'm going to sign up for those classes right now.

This might sound dumb to you but the EMT School requires that I be fully shaven, and I've only shaved twice since high school. Both times I looked like a young 10 year old virgin boy and it just brought back memories of getting relentlessly ridiculed in high school and middle school. First off, I would not be able to get any respect in any profession looking like a pre-pubescent.

Now while I understand this is a requirement to get a good seal for the N95 mask, it's not something I am willing to do. I know that many nurses, many MANY male nurses have beards (and mine IS nicely trimmed) so that is something I am still looking into, Maybe this is because there are alternatives to the N95 in hospitals that are not available in an Emergency Vehicle.

Also considered the possibility of shaving (UGHHH) for the 4 month long EMT-B class, and then grow it out as I apply for ER Tech Positions. (Still thinking about this one)

Before anyone says anything - yes, I am aware I would have to shave for any nursing program out there (and that is something i could handle knowing that I could grow it back for my career choice)

I am a very confident person, but only with my facial hair (the only thing that makes me even remotely look like I am a man ;) )

One nurse told me I should become a CNA, to help better my chances of getting into nursing school and volunteer some hours in the field that I want to work in.

Volunteer, cool.. I can do that.

CNA? This is something I could not do. Much respect to all the CNAs here... but, wiping butts for a profession does not sound like fun. I can handle phlem, vomit, blood, you name it... but poop is not my cup of tea. Yes I know I will have to deal with that stuff in various points in my career if i went into nursing, but as opposed to it being a small part of your job, being a CNA, it's mostly your entire job.

My local community college has a 4 month Registered Medical Assistant Program for 6,000 with 5 weeks externship, so I was going to jump onto that only to find that it's impossible to find a job as a MA (according to people here and other forums), and especially impossible as a male MA (seems employers are a bit sexist when it comes to this specific profession)

Looked into LPN courses but it seems the demand for this profession is dwindling and even considering there is a long waiting list for these programs too.

So here I am, unsure of what pre-reqs to take since they all differ from college to college, what to do in the meantime (ER Tech, MA, LPN, Burger King) How to afford tuition if i DO find a program... you name it - I am have a difficulty with it.

For the record my credit score is clean and near perfect. I've never owed a bank more than 700 dollars and hate owing people or places money.

I have been for many days now waking up, looking up medical professions and options, and reading on these forums, for over 12 hours a day (Not a joke, I woke up at 2pm today, and have been here in this computer chair since.. It is now 4:05 am)

As I watch my friends make things of themselves, I'm 27 - uneducated, jobless and have no skills or talents that could prove useful in any other careers. I love to help others and I love the concept of saving lives and helping people get better. I need something secure that allows me to travel. (If humanitarian work paid, that is what I would be doing right now)

I'm becoming more depressed by the day. Wondering how much longer it will be until I throw in the towel, buy my first trailer home and get a job at McDonalds.

Someone, anyone - please, who can feel my pain who has gotten through this please offer some advice or guidance. I'm seriously stuck and not sure where to go.

Negative Nancies - your opinion is welcome here too as long as its constructive, but what I really need is some positive uplifting advice because I honestly feel like I have run into a brick wall. Perhaps I've decided to grow up a bit too late...

all jokes aside you seriously should consider writing. I mean your post had all the good elements. I laughed, i pouted I mean everything. Try the emt thing out and take prereqs. I met a pa student that came out of Miss. State with a 2.3 and went and got her emt license and did really well and worked for 6 months and is now in the PA program and doing REALLY well. So, if you have a dream don't let me or anyone else deter you. Try it, but you cannot get anywhere just sulking and thinking, you gotta put in some work buddy, lol. Good luck sir

Who said I was joking... :confused:

I agree with starting out as a CNA. 3 years ago I went to school for my CNA. After graduation, I didn't do a whole lot with it, as I became employed in a non-medical field that payed more at the time. However, I am very glad that I went to school for my CNA first. It prepared and exposed me to a lot. I went through some nursing classes (like Nursing Fundementals), I went through clinicals, I learned about proper PPE, I took my CPR certification class, ect. My clinicals ranged from geriatric facility to an alzheimer's unit. I learned about proper clinical do's and don'ts and other things that prepared me for a lot of what I'm getting into at school for my LPN. Only a few other students in my class have gone through their CNA first, and I find it's better prepared us just a bit, as far as being exposed to clinical rotations and getting exposure to the health field in general.

Working your way up one step at a time is sometimes the best way to go, it just depends on what works for you. For me, working myself one step at a time has been best. I did my CNA first, now I'm doing my LPN. After graduation and I work for a while, I plan to go for my RN, and then I will likely continue to move up. Nurse Practitioner is my ultimate goal.

So thank you for your lack of compassionate care, seriously, I do not think YOU are cut out for nursing.

Fourteen hours on allnurses isn't exactly the best prerequisite for becoming the judge and jury of who is cut out for nursing.

You asked for advice. You got it. Insulting someone who actually IS a nurse, actually working as a nurse, who has experience being a nurse? When your sole qualification is you drove Grandma to her dialysis appointment and read some posts on the internet?

Forget compassion. That doesn't display the good judgment required to succeed as a nurse. Whether male or female.

Forget getting past the GPA and tuition hurdles. You need to learn to show some respect to those actually working in the profession if you're going to get through school. Perhaps your responses here would be a good place to start practicing.

@type1nurse - during your two years of prereqs were you going to college full time?

@jngo91 - all you know is what i have told you, which hasn't been too much. let it be known that a big reason i have been looking into this is because i have always enjoyed helping others. though certain nurse specialties excite me more than others. (not just er, or, or icu nursing but flight nursing as well) my sole interest does not lie only in the fact that it pays well and is respected. thank you for your reply though :) as far as the cna thing goes - i will address this in a moment.

@xtxrn - lol! i'm so surprised with all the positive vibes towards my writing. if anyone wants to read my creative writing... they can message me and i will link them to my site or facebook.

@x_factor - i wish you the best of luck with your goals! and thank you so much for the advice, i will highly consider it.

@wooh - with all due respect, you should treat others as you would like to be treated. she was condescending, i stood up for myself. for someone who is supposed to be a professional in compassionate care, she failed miserably at that. i was not sick, but i was hurting.

you think i'm going to respect anyone who looks down on a person who is trying to find their way? she judged me based not on 14 hours of reading my posts, but from kind of reading one post written in frustration and confusion..

so no - nurse or not - she does not deserve my respect. i love her and appreciate her as a human being as i do all sentient beings, and i respect what she does - but that does not mean i need to respect her.

i know some great nurses, and i know some crappy ones, and i'm not implying that she is a bad nurse (i don't know her) i just know that if a nurse ever acted that way to me in person, i'd be asking for another nurse and probably file a complaint. if helping people is her passion, that passion shouldn't just stop when she leaves the hospital. you should live that passion.

just because i didn't want to be a cna, didn't mean i don't want to help people - it means that i want to help people in an area that is right for me. nursing has many areas, as i am sure you are aware and i am looking at them all.

if humanitarian work payed, that's what i would be doing with my life. after college (wether its a nursing degree or something else, peace corps will be where i am at)

also know that the 14 hours of research that i mentioned was just pertaining to that day, i've been researching for a long time now.

i just wanted to express thanks to everyone that replied once again. i'm not feeling as frustrated or lost anymore. i plan on taking an emt course and finding a job in a hospital while i start my prereqs. this will provide me with some money for "now" and give me a look into whether i want to continue to peruse medicine. thanks to a few kind souls on here, i feel like i can accomplish what ever i want.

as far as the cna stuff goes - i'm considering it.

We all know that everything seems to be a dead end when it comes to becoming a nurse. it does take passion to become one. getting into nursing school is just the beginning. the work, the studying, is another step. Try taking just one step at a time if you really want to become one. Every new grad nurse has gone through it. and some are twice your age. You can do it, maybe nurse is or isnt for you and no one can say it is or isnt. But nurses do CNA LVN, and RN work. if CNA's and LVN messed up, then the RN is responsible. so we have to know and deal with the cool and dirty work.

Let me give you some hints. I have clinicals at Sharp hospitals, and there are only RN's and 2 CNA's. the RNs clean almost everything, because it is always about the patient. Instead of thinking what you can handle, become a CNA and learn a part of RNs work. I agree CNA job's suck, because i am one, and being yelled at by the RNs and lVN sucks, but seeing happy, clean, healthy patients makes the job worth what you do. sorry if any of my grammar suks but i wrote this all on my iphone.

go to assist.org and research. enjoy it. everything you learn in nursing is good knowledge to maintain a healthy lifestyle too. goodluck man.

27 isnt that old. btw. you still got years ahead of u. especially if ustart now.

For someone that never wanted to be older than 18, 27 feels really old to me. I wanted to hold on to being a kid for as long as I could, and I guess I did - it's just way past time for me to let that go. So what many of you did earlier in life, I am doing now. I may be 10 years behind, but I'm trying to get my life straightened away. To find something I enjoy doing. Something that when the day ends it lets me say that I made a difference in someones life.

Perhaps I should ask a more constructive question pertaining to this..

Like I mentioned before, blood, gore, snot, pee, vomit - none of that bothers me... yet for a long time I would get strangely upset when my finger would go through the toilet paper. :(

lol, ok - im kidding - but really how do you get over something if you have a hard time dealing with it? I know that each nurse has something they really do not like to deal with.

Again, I realize it's something that I'd have to deal with, probably frequently - depending. It's something I'd like to get over, but I've more than disliked feces sine I was a kid. I was scared to death of the plunger for the longest time!

Thank you for your time and reply, I appreciate it and will check out the website

@@wooh - with all due respect, you should treat others as you would like to be treated. she was condescending, i stood up for myself. for someone who is supposed to be a professional in compassionate care, she failed miserably at that. i was not sick, but i was hurting.

you think i'm going to respect anyone who looks down on a person who is trying to find their way? she judged me based not on 14 hours of reading my posts, but from kind of reading one post written in frustration and confusion..

so no - nurse or not - she does not deserve my respect. i love her and appreciate her as a human being as i do all sentient beings, and i respect what she does - but that does not mean i need to respect her.

i know some great nurses, and i know some crappy ones, and i'm not implying that she is a bad nurse (i don't know her) i just know that if a nurse ever acted that way to me in person, i'd be asking for another nurse and probably file a complaint. if helping people is her passion, that passion shouldn't just stop when she leaves the hospital. you should live that passion.

i disagree with your point here, and it is something that comes up a lot with nursing students and new nurses. compassion is a part of the job of nursing. but providing compassionate care to anwhere from 1 to 50 patients, all in some state of crisis, within the duration of a shift, while trying to state afloat in the sea of healthcare politics is exhausting, and draining.

as someone who is going into this profession, your responsibility, from the get-go, will be to figure out how to be a team member, to be supportive, understanding, and respectful of what your colleagues are going through.

you need to figure that out now, before you start this, because your fellow nurses cannot, at the same time that they are providing compassionate care to the dying patient, or distraught parent of a sick child, or critically injured teen ager, they cannot also be compassionate to your struggles as an aspiring member of this profession, even if they may 100% understand and sympathize with what you are going through.

because your job is to figure out how you can work together with your colleagues to provide the best healthcare experience for your patients, who will consume every last ounce of your energy.

so stop going on about how "i thought nurses were supposed to be compassionate, why are they so mean to me?" they are not being mean to you, they are most likely barely noticing you, and you tugging at the hem of their pants and telling them to be compassionate is pulling them away from what is important. hint: it's not you.

so stop expecting this to be about you and throw yourself into the frey and take the hits that come and remember that compassion means that you become a team member to do the best job possible for the patient.

That's fine, because I still agree 100% with what I said.

Compassion isn't just a switch you turn on and off when you get exhausted or drained. I may not be a nurse but I help people in anyway i can, whenever I can, and I do it with a smile on my face - because I enjoy helping others no matter what their problem may be.

These problems can be had by someone in person, or maybe on the internet. I'm always there for anyone who might need it.

What's more is even when I don't get along with a person (lets say the person we are currently talking about) I'd still help them and I'd be friendly while doing it, because that's the kind of PERSON I am, not the kind of person I'm employed to be.

So yes, I'm sure it is exhausting, but it's no excuse for acting like that, looking down on others looking for help. I didn't come here to be judged, and that was the first thing she did. If you can't handle the stresses of a job without turning into that kind of person, well, it's in my opinion that maybe she needs to look at herself before she starts looking at others.

It's one of those things where, if you are replying to someone in that manner - maybe it is just best to turn the computer off.

Other people here have basically suggested the same thing that she did, yet in a more professional and constructive manner. (I specifically asked for these kinds of replies)

For her, It just seemed like she needed someone to ***** at. That was me, that's fine. Glad I could be someones stress ball.

I also think you confuse my lack of respect for said individual with the ability to work as a team and being civil, I've worked with people I have not liked before and we rocked whatever we did. We may not have liked each other, but we respected the job, and the others ability to do the job. We always came out on top.

How many times do Nurses just hate each other?

How many times do EMT's really dread working with that one partner that they get signed up with?

How many times do you have to save someones life, or care for a sick person with the nurse that just spread a whole bunch of gossip about you to other nurses?

Not suggesting that I hate her, as I hate no person...

However, that happens daily for many nurses and EMT's and yet they still come together to save lives and care for other people. All differences are tossed aside for the help of another.

Not everyone can get along, I'd probably let it go if I worked with her, but I don't and I'm sure we are BOTH glad that we probably never will have that chance.

For the record, I am sure she is probably a fine nurse and has helped many people, I just think her attitude sucks.

I've been scouring this site trying to figure out who offended you so, but can't figure it out. But I did go back and reread your posts, and what caught my eye is that you are interested in going into ER, ICU, OR, and flight nursing, and CRNA, which are the "sexy" specialites. Sexy not in a sexual way, but in the way that when you tell people you're a nurse, they all get really chilled and thrilled by what you do.

You are not going to be able to go to nursing school, glide through your coursework, and pop up out of the program as nurse Carol Hathaway's fully-formed bearded sidekick. The fact that you eschew the job of CNA while leaning toward being an EMT confirms that.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to go into those areas of nursing. But you seem to have a fantastical view of the profession, and are not willing to put in the scut work to succeed.

Based on your previous professional and academic experiences, it seems that you have a tendency to go into things with starry eyes about the outcome, and then become frustrated when reality hits, and then quit.

You need to think about this more.

I can tell you though, that back when I was your age I worked professionally as a writer. For a long time I made a pretty decent living doing it, until I got so sick of spending all my time inside my own head I couldn't stand it anymore.

I will give you some writerly advice that might help you a little here. Print out everything you have written on this thread. Put it all in front of you on your desk. Grab a red pen and make a decision to cut it down to 1000 words or less, and then start to slash and burn through your posts.

Eliminate the redundancies, the irrelevancies, and any concept that requires more than two sentences to explain. When you've gotten all of it tightened out, you will have learned a thing or two about yourself. And, if you do decide to go to nursing school, you will have the beginnings of a really good admission essay.

i've been scouring this site trying to figure out who offended you so, but can't figure it out. but i did go back and reread your posts, and what caught my eye is that you are interested in going into er, icu, or, and flight nursing, and crna, which are the "sexy" specialites. sexy not in a sexual way, but in the way that when you tell people you're a nurse, they all get really chilled and thrilled by what you do.

i laughed so hard at your description. thanks for that :)

you are not going to be able to go to nursing school, glide through your coursework, and pop up out of the program as nurse carol hathaway's fully-formed bearded sidekick. the fact that you eschew the job of cna while leaning toward being an emt confirms that.

there is nothing wrong with wanting to go into those areas of nursing. but you seem to have a fantastical view of the profession, and are not willing to put in the scut work to succeed.

fair, and i have considered this. from what i can tell it will take a few years experience to get into many of those positions. though i feel that if i get my emt-b certification like i planned, and get a job as an er tech - getting a job in the er as a nurse (which some new grads do) would be an easier transition.

it's not that i am not willing to put in any of the scut work, i'd just prefer as little of it as possible, even as an emt people soil themselves or vomit on you. so it's not like i can't handle it.

based on your previous professional and academic experiences, it seems that you have a tendency to go into things with starry eyes about the outcome, and then become frustrated when reality hits, and then quit.

my time in college boils down to this. i initially went for computer programming because i was told i had to go to college right after high school. i was basically forced to go. it definitely was not something i cared about or wanted to take seriously.

the second time i went to college, that was more along the lines of - i just wanted to take an acting class. i had no dreams of getting an acting major or anything like that. i took the class for fun.

i've never gone to college and taken it seriously, because i've never wanted to be there. now i do.

you need to think about this more.

i think about it everyday :) and i still do quite a bit of research daily, though my website has taken up some time the past few days.

i can tell you though, that back when i was your age i worked professionally as a writer. for a long time i made a pretty decent living doing it, until i got so sick of spending all my time inside my own head i couldn't stand it anymore.

i will give you some writerly advice that might help you a little here. print out everything you have written on this thread. put it all in front of you on your desk. grab a red pen and make a decision to cut it down to 1000 words or less, and then start to slash and burn through your posts.

eliminate the redundancies, the irrelevancies, and any concept that requires more than two sentences to explain. when you've gotten all of it tightened out, you will have learned a thing or two about yourself. and, if you do decide to go to nursing school, you will have the beginnings of a really good admission essay.

wow, i hadn't considered this. thank you so much for that idea :) and thank you for your time as well, i do appreciate it.

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