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Does it bother CRNA's that MDA's get so much more...?

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Then if the title Doctor is synonymous with physician what do you call dentists, podiatrists, optometrists, and doctoral prepared psychologists..?

I should have added dentists and podiatrists. I am not familiar with psychologists... and I haven't seen an optometrist where I work so far...

Anyway, I was just saying that I don't see pharmacist/PT insist on being called doctor where I work and I have never heard one introduces him/herself as such...

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wtbcrna is a MSN, DNP, CRNA and specializes in Anesthesia.

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So as a nurse you are against nurses using their terminal academic title, because only physicians, dentists, psycholologists, podiatrists, and optometrists should be allowed to use their academic titles in healthcare since this is what you are used to.?

In other words you are advocating to not change with the times but to remain stagnant in order to not bother some physician's ego when a nurse has the same academic title as many other healthcare providers.

I personally decided to go the other route and support my fellow nurses in their advanced academic degrees and choice to use or not use their terminal academic degree title when addressing patients or other healthcare staff.

A nurse using the title Doctor in the clinical setting does not hurt the patient and gives those nurses a another chance to educate patients on a daily basis. Most patients still don't realize that APRNs can and do function independently. This is just one more mechanism that some nurses use to educate patients and show that yes nurses just like every other healthcare provider can earn their doctorate too. Nurses shouldn't have to hide the fact that they have earned their doctorate in the healthcare setting just because it bothers someone's else's ego whether it be a physician or another nurse.

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So as a nurse you are against nurses using their terminal academic title, because only physicians, dentists, psycholologists, podiatrists, and optometrists should be allowed to use their academic titles in healthcare since this is what you are used to.?

In other words you are advocating to not change with the times but to remain stagnant in order to not bother some physician's ego when a nurse has the same academic title as many other healthcare providers.

I personally decided to go the other route and support my fellow nurses in their advanced academic degrees and choice to use or not use their terminal academic degree title when addressing patients or other healthcare staff.

A nurse using the title Doctor in the clinical setting does not hurt the patient and gives those nurses a another chance to educate patients on a daily basis. Most patients still don't realize that APRNs can and do function independently. This is just one more mechanism that some nurses use to educate patients and show that yes nurses just like every other healthcare provider can earn their doctorate too. Nurses shouldn't have to hide the fact that they have earned their doctorate in the healthcare setting just because it bothers someone's else's ego whether it be a physician or another nurse.

Exactly my thoughts.

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DNP can call themselves God, and I really don't care... I was just stating the attitude that I have seen from most of them... They are looking for parity when in reality their degree is BS... I can call myself God, but everyone knows I am not.

The place I work at took away NP/PA physician parking/lounge privileges... They did not do the same for dentists and podiatrist... These people's degree mean something... We all know what the DNP degree is, and lets not pretend it is really a degree other than just the letters...

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DNP can call themselves God, and I really don't care... I was just stating the attitude that I have seen from most of them... They are looking for parity when in reality their degree is BS... I can call myself God, but everyone knows I am not.

The place I work at took away NP/PA physician parking/lounge privileges... They did not do the same for dentists and podiatrist... These people's degree mean something... We all know what the DNP degree is, and lets not pretend it is really a degree other than just the letters...

SDN too slow today, W19?

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SDN too slow today, W19?

Huh....!

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wtbcrna is a MSN, DNP, CRNA and specializes in Anesthesia.

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You have no actual experience as an APRN you don't have a DNP, but from your vast experience as X you have determined that the DNP is a worthless degree?. Does that about sum it up?

APRNs aren't looking to be physicians because they gain a doctorate degree. That is just another myth that physicians love to spread and unfortunately some nurses too.

There are many reasons to get a doctorate and few people get a doctorate for the "prestige" which some people think is why a lot of nurses get their doctorate. The degree was designed to recognize the increased amount credit hours that APNs have to take already, the DNP/DNAP is supposed to help understand/translate research into practice, and to some extent give more leadership training. The DNP was designed to work in conjunction with an APN curriculum or to give further training to existing APNs. APNs have already proven that we are safe and effective providers, but as a group we recognize that there is still room to grow in our own practices and it is beneficial for healthcare and to our patients to have APNs as leaders in healthcare and not have just physicians as those leaders.

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You have no actual experience as an APRN you don't have a DNP, but from your vast experience as X you have determined that the DNP is a worthless degree?. Does that about sum it up?

APRNs aren't looking to be physicians because they gain a doctorate degree. That is just another myth that physicians love to spread and unfortunately some nurses too.

There are many reasons to get a doctorate and few people get a doctorate for the "prestige" which some people think is why a lot of nurses get their doctorate. The degree was designed to recognize the increased amount credit hours that APNs have to take already, the DNP/DNAP is supposed to help understand/translate research into practice, and to some extent give more leadership training. The DNP was designed to work in conjunction with an APN curriculum or to give further training to existing APNs. APNs have already proven that we are safe and effective providers, but as a group we recognize that there is still room to grow in our own practices and it is beneficial for healthcare and to our patients to have APNs as leaders in healthcare and not have just physicians as those leaders.

I don't need to be a mid-level provider to know the DNP degree is worthless...

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wtbcrna is a MSN, DNP, CRNA and specializes in Anesthesia.

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Just your use of that term "mid-level provider" shows you don't know what you are talking about.

APRNs aren't mid-level providers and they have never been mid-level providers.

Do you even know who first suggested that more nurses get their doctorates?..

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I am a CRNA and I am happy with my compensation. I work with MD's and even though we both understand anesthesia, we are not always doing "the same thing". We have different responsibilities when working as a team. Some CRNA's get bothered by anesthesiologist though for sure, but it is not all about the money.......

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For not even being a CRNA, you have a lot of pride. It will not serve you very well Mr. Dr...... just saying

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I work 40 or less hours a week. Never more. have a base salary far north of 200K and amazing benefits. It would be impossible for me to care any less about what others do or do not get paid, or how much or little they get paid. I am only concerned with myself, and I am happy. OT available, and lots of it, but why?!?!? I like having a life.

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