Discrimination Against Men in Nursing

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The following is a quote from a paper written by Shawn Gardiner describing a scenario in which discrimination in nursing against men is wide spread, oppressive, and accepted. I agree with him completely with regard to the same. I am a male RN, a paralegal, and a biochemist.

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"I just did a paper for freshman english here at Syracuse University, and happened to find this forum while researching. This is my paper if you're interested ...

The Hyper-Visibility of the Male Nurse and the Invisibility of the Male Nurse's Discrimination and Struggles

Nursing has been a profession throughout history. The first known record of nursing as a profession was in ancient Rome when groups of men organized to treat victims of the plague. The first American nurses were medics during the civil war; most of which were male. Women nurses, although the minority gained much recognition due to their involvement, and in 1901 the United States Nurse Corp was formed, a strictly female organization. Since then, the nursing profession has become primarily female dominated and therefore schools, organizations and workplaces all have turned towards female interests. In response to these actions and divisions, the nursing profession became stereotypically female in the mind of society, and the male nurse became invisible. The hyper-visibility of female nurses is very prevalent today, even as more male nurses join the nursing workforce. The new merge of males into the nursing profession is due to many different issues including higher pay, a greater demand for nurses, and an improvement in tolerance and understanding of diversity in society. Still, male nurses are stereotyped and face struggles in the classroom and in their profession. This is the result of decades of generalizing nurses as female, and in turn, male nurses face discrimination from educators, patients, and other nurses. Male nurses struggle with the stereotypes placed on them due to the dominance of women in the nursing practices. In this way, male nurses are not easily accepted by society, even with growing numbers in the field and people and groups pushing for equality for male nurses.

The Civil War began to shape nursing in America into its modern form. At that time males were the dominant gender in the field, because nursing was based around the military, and the military was primarily male. However, female nurses were most recognized for their nursing efforts in the war and still are today. A hyper-visibility of female nurses began due to the fact that women on the battlefield were a rarity. Women who undertook this job were the first to be a part of the on battle site military, and therefore were honored as daring and courageous, much more so than male military nurses. The, then, newfound popularity and familiarity of the female nurse drastically transformed the profession into being female dominated. In the late 1800's the American Nurses Association (ANA) was formed, then under the name Nurses Associated Alumnae and was strictly female. This rule remained until 1930 when the organization began to accept men, but in a once all female organization, male membership was rare. The United States Nurse Corp formed as part of the military in 1901 was also strictly female. It wasn't until the Korean War when men were finally allowed into this division. These two organizations dominated the two occupational fields in the United States, public and governmental. In this way these associations, not only affected, but guided the segregation in the field of nursing from their formation around the turn of the 19th century with decades of strict codes against male nurses.

Male nurses, today, account for about 5.7 percent of the Registered and Professional Nurses in America, the most popular types of nurses, and 5.4 percent of all nursing professions. In nursing schools, about 13% of students are male. This shows a strong rise in the male interest in the field of nursing. Increased male interest in the field of nursing can be tied to several issues. First, nursing school enrollment is down, and there is now a shortage of nurses in many areas throughout the United States. This has provoked interest in males because nursing is now a field with many job and advancement opportunities that other professions can no longer offer. Also, due to the increased need and also increased specialization of nurses, the wage of nurses is rising at a higher rate than many other professions. A job as a nurse can be a very efficient job for a male in a household with both working parents. In addition, with the growing acceptance and tolerance of breaking gender barriers in society today, males are more willing, and less embarrassed, to enter a female dominated field.

In addition to the increased advantages of males entering nursing, schools and job providers are also taking new steps to promote males into the nursing profession. A new slogan "Are you man enough to wear white" is part of a campaign by medical educators. This statement is specifically designed to break the feminine stereotype of nurses and, in contrast, promote a masculine attitude about the profession. This type of campaign has been successful because the rate of males to females entering nursing school has risen greatly. Sadly however, dropout rates in nursing schools for male nurses are higher than those for male nurses. After completion of college or nursing school, male nurses continue to struggle. Male nurses have a significantly lower job satisfaction and leave the profession at twice the rate of female nurses. This is most likely due to many factors that have risen due to the female dominance of the occupation.

Gender discrimination for nurses begins in the classroom where classes are focused primarily towards the female student. Books and other materials, especially older references can refer to nurses as "she", indicating all nurses are female, and mention males only as patients or doctors, never nurses. In this way, males have been placed in a learning environment with a sharp female bias. In the workplace, male nurses often stand out against the female nurses and are often treated differently by their supervisors, co-workers, and patients. In this way, male nurses feel and often are forced to perform at at a higher standard due to their hyper-visibility. Patients often resent or even reject male nurses, because they are uncomfortable, probably due to stereotypes and mental preconceptions. This is especially evident in labor and delivery departments of hospitals where male nurses may not be permitted either by their job description or patient request.

The nursing occupation is generally stereotyped as feminine, because of the job history and also qualities of a typical nurse. Nurses are expected to be caring, gentle, and compassionate, qualities stereotyped as female and rejected by males. In this way, male nurses have to break this barrier and in doing so are often generalized as feminine. This can lead to accusations of homosexuality or weakness, both strong and damaging classifications to males in modern society. These stereotypes are often very hard to deal with, and take strong self-confidence to get over. In addition, male nurses can be seen as unmotivated and under-achievers, as compared to other medical professionals, primarily doctors. These stereotypes can cause embarrassment and stress among male nurses in the workplace, and in public, which most likely leads to the high quitting rate.

Media has a large role in the portrayal of male nurses to the public. Movies and TV shows reflect life situations in a surreal manner, often times using stereotypes for character development and humor. One such from of media is "Meet the Parents" in which the character Gaylord (Greg) Focker, played by Ben Stiller, is a male nurse. The name "Gaylord Focker" is an obvious stereotypical characterization, which immediately implies homosexuality. His personality is depicted as flamboyant and his speech flippant. Engaged to his fiancée, Pam, Greg is criticized and made fun of by Pam's parents, specifically her father, for his homosexual-like flamboyancy, tall tales, and most importantly his occupation as a nurse. In a dialogue from the movie, Greg's occupation is clearly diminished by the characters of Jack Byrnes and Bob Banks.

Jack: Greg's in medicine too.

Bob: What field?

Greg: Nursing.

Bob: Ha ha ha ha. No really, what field are you in?

Greg: Nursing.

In this conversation, nursing as a male profession is clearly rejected, by the character of Bob, as a means for satirical humor. The laughing and requisitioning implies a denial of the possibility of a male nurse and is direct and demeaning. Through these types of media portrayal of male nurses, society is not only given the idea that males do not belong in the nursing profession but also that using male nurse stereotypes is acceptable for humor.

Humor, derived from males in the nursing profession, can come from sources outside of the media. T-shirts sold online at AllHeart.com can be found with the saying "Be nice to me/ when you're in the hospital/ Your butt is in My hands!" The T-shirt, entitled "Be Nice to Male Nurses Medical Humor T-Shirt" can be bought for $14.98 plus shipping and handling. This commercial example of humor expands the exploitation of male nurses, by almost literally selling the stereotypes. This T-shirt directly attacks and generalizes male nurses as aggressive and dangerous. The "Be nice to me..." statement, demonstrates a demand for power, which can lead the fear and suspicion of male nurses, both by patients and co-workers. In the utmost irony, the T-shirt is directly targeted for sale to male nurses, which are the people it is segregating against. A male in the nursing profession, who wears the shirt, would in fact be generalizing himself, and therefore only adding to the stereotypes that lead to the suspicion and fear as well as the other negative mentalities associated with male nurses.

Males in nursing have strong opinions toward the stereotypes and generalizations as well as the discrimination that these mindsets create. A poll by Male Nurse Magazine posed the question, "Do you feel that males are represented fairly within nursing?" In response almost two-thirds, over 65%, chose the response, "No, I feel we are overlooked at this time". According Male Nurse Magazine an increase in the choice of the "No ..." response has risen in rate, from previous surveys that posted the same question and choices. A clear majority of male nurses do feel that inequalities occur for them either in or outside of the workplace. This majority is growing, and therefore the broadness and importance of the unfairness is also increasing.

Males in the nursing profession are both invisible and hyper-visible in the scope of society. Visually in the work place they are hyper-visible because they stand out in a strongly female dominated profession. To patients and coworkers a nurse that has a title beginning with Mr. is unusual and therefore treated in a different manner. Patients and staff often deal with, and have different standards, for male nurses. This only adds to the hyper-visibility of the male nurse. Males in nursing are invisible in that their struggles and efforts to revise bias in nursing often times are under appreciated or unnoticed. Society and the media are not as interested in male nurses breaking gender barriers as women in male profession. Also, Women are usually given more respect and credibility for their efforts in breaking their barriers. In this way, male nurse occupational gender barrier movements are hyper-visible, especially compared to the women's movements.

Male nurses face the same type of struggles, and often at a higher level, than females breaking gender barriers in other professions. The typically suppressed female worker along with other groups are using several types of discrimination to hold back males in the field of nursing. This reveals a reverse segregation for male nurses which is gaining throughout society. Whereas stereotypes of certain groups are highly discouraged and penalized in today's society, jokes and generalizations of male nurses are often accepted in both society and the media. This greatly hampers the male nursing movements, and greatly affects male nurses in their confidence and mentality. This can lead to poorer job performance and poorer job satisfaction. Many male nurses are pushed to the point of leaving their job. The discrimination that male nurses face in America today needs to be recognized by society so that acceptance and respect can be given to both male and female nurses equally. If not, the previous stereotypes will remain, and male nurses will continue to be held down, unable to ever experience gender equality in nursing."

-Shawn

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:angryfire

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.

I recently went out with a straight guy co-worker who lied to the woman he was interested in and said that he was a firefighter instead of a nurse because he felt he couldn't compete with another guy who really was a firefighter.

He'd been rejected many times over and passed up by women for a guy in a more "masculine" profession.

Wow he must have a lot of insecurities. I f I was going to pick a more a more masculine role, it certainly wouldnt be a Firefighter. Maybe someone like John Wayne, maybe, or maybe Robert Mitchum or Audie Murphy

None of them seem to get trouble from us female nurses. I could care less the gender of the nurse. I get SO sick of hearing that women are catty and women are the reason for all the problems in nursing, so there is no way I would ever start making generalizations about men.... Maybe I have grounds for a lawsuit too;)

Statements like these make me approach this thread with some trepidation. No, Fergus, I don't believe you would ever generalize about men, or any other group for that matter. However, the fact that you wouldn't do it, and have not seen it, does not equate to it not happening.

It is not a terribly prevalent problem. It isn't nearly as pervasive or as far reaching as the author of the initial article would have you believe. But, there are those nurses with an anti-male bias, and most of us have run into it. Personally, I ran into it early on in my education as a nurse. Long story short, one of the instructors in our school (still there, as far as I know) believed that nursing was a "woman's profession," and worked very hard to make life very difficult for males in her classes. She admitted the truth of this to a class full of female students.

And I won't get into all the stories related to me by other male nurses. Yes, it happens. One of the bigger problems men face when trying to make it stop is the attitude "What's the matter, can't take a little kidding from a woman?"

Kevin McHugh

Wow he must have a lot of insecurities. I f I was going to pick a more a more masculine role, it certainly wouldnt be a Firefighter. Maybe someone like John Wayne, maybe, or maybe Robert Mitchum or Audie Murphy

LOL! That same thought crossed my mind as well. When it was going on I kind of viewed it as overcompensating and the "homo-erotic half-naked fireman" type calender came to mind.

Statements like these make me approach this thread with some trepidation. No, Fergus, I don't believe you would ever generalize about men, or any other group for that matter. However, the fact that you wouldn't do it, and have not seen it, does not equate to it not happening.

It is not a terribly prevalent problem. It isn't nearly as pervasive or as far reaching as the author of the initial article would have you believe. But, there are those nurses with an anti-male bias, and most of us have run into it. Personally, I ran into it early on in my education as a nurse. Long story short, one of the instructors in our school (still there, as far as I know) believed that nursing was a "woman's profession," and worked very hard to make life very difficult for males in her classes. She admitted the truth of this to a class full of female students.

And I won't get into all the stories related to me by other male nurses. Yes, it happens. One of the bigger problems men face when trying to make it stop is the attitude "What's the matter, can't take a little kidding from a woman?"

Kevin McHugh

That was my take on it as well. The article was a little (ok, a lot, actually) overly dramatic about male discrimination in nursing.

But the "little kidding" type comments that I get from female co-workers and managers every day (99% of which I consider to be completely harmless) as well as the physical boundaries such as touching my hair or rubbing my shoulders without asking me first are far more likely to get me into real trouble as a man if I were to say and do many of the same things to women.

There is definitely a double standard as far as what is considered inappropriate and harassment in the workplace depending on who is doing it to who.

The classes we have to take every year at work on that issue reflect it.

99% of it focuses on how men victimize women but will casually mention "Oh well I guess it could happen the other way around and has been documented on occasion" as if it's barely worth mentioning.

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.

When did men get so thin skinned and overly sensitive, which decade did this happen in, maybe we can find a cure. I remember growing up no one was this sensitive, and we did see one he generally got stuffed into his locker at school. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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discrimination in nursing against men is wide spread, oppressive, and accepted. I agree with him completely with regard to the same. I am a male RN, a paralegal, and a biochemist.

Two points (from a woman)

1. I think nursing must be one of the very few female dominated fields. If we had a website for all the descrimination in all of the other fields that are male dominated, the internet would run out of space. Discrimination in any field is wide spread, oppressive, and aggressive-this is nothing new-except maybe to you.

2. Do you think that your position as a Biochemist is in a male dominated field? Have you even thought that a female biochemist wasn't a intelligent as you or some other man in your field? Have you noticed the same type of behavior in that field towards women as you have described happens towards men in nursing?

Just a thought.

When did men get so thin skinned and overly sensitive, which decade did this happen in, maybe we can find a cure. I remember growing up no one was this sensitive, and we did see one he generally got stuffed into his locker at school. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Yeah, those were definitely some better times.

Maybe we need to go back to training little boys to "Suck it up and don't act like such a girl" whenever they cry.

Maybe that would cure it.

If the lead off posting is an accurate quoting of the article then I think the author has certainly not made the case for an oppressive discrimination against males in the nursing profession. Males make more than women in nursing and they hold more management jobs. I have felt no discrimination as a male. In fact I have felt just the opposite, nearly every female I have been taught by or worked with has gone out of her way to make me feel welcome.

I have been discriminated against by some patients. To a person they have been elderly and female and few in number. They come from a cohort group that is very unfamiliar with nursing care given by men. Unless I am the only one around they have the right to choose who will give them care. It doesn't bother me.

Joe

Really interesting thread. I'm switching from a long career in Investment Banking, which is dominated by men, to nursing and I never thought about the potential obstacles presented by the "male nurse" issue. It does give me hope when I read the many positive first hand stories that people have of their nursing careers irregardless of whether they are male or female.

Invariably, everyone's personal experience with discrimination won't be the same. All I do if I experience discrimination or hostility in the workforce or classroom is address it directly and feel some sympathy for those ignorant enough to harbor those misguided perceptions - because ultimately it's their issue not mine.

Sam

This isn't the most serious post but IMHO I like working with dudes because they don't get all caught up in woman drma (ie cattiness) this may sound all stereotypical and bad but oh well I swaer its true that the men folk don't seem to get al backbiting, nasty and dont' have as much of a tendency to eat young as women. Just my obsevation, and an obvious generalizatio, so sorry. I wish thier were more guys, maybe their would be less backbiting, behind your back nastiness. Sometimes the girls make it feel like middle school agian. And all that poopoo is why I took woodshop. I would have rather be messed with (not harrassed or assaulted) for being the only girl in the shop (to my face), than deal with girly craoppla in some girly class. I guess I'm just a tomboy like that! :rotfl:

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.

I think times have changed, where men were less dramatic, less nasty, less backbiting. A lot of these young fellas I work with are completely different in their behaviours and actions as opposed to me. When I was young all young men were raised to be men. To be Manly, To not whine and fuss and all that stuff. The John Wayne syndrome I guess.

Now these young guys dont have any role models like that and actors and role models they grew up with tended to be much more whiny and histrionic. And look at all these wimpy guys who live at home with their Parents sponging off them and they are up into their 30s. Shuckins I moved out at 16 and lived on the beach, never thought of moving back.

I have a quick question. Are there men that work as charge nurses? If so what does a charge nurse actually do? Is more experience required? Is that a permanant title or do you switch with other nurses on the floor? Im a first year nursing student and I was told Id would make a good charge nurse. I just dont know what they do differently from the regular nurse. thanks alot---TN MAN

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