Will you work during a Pandemic? - page 21
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May 12, '08From: US ; Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 3,163; Likes: 1,158I'll be running out the door when they try to mandate me to stay. My mother is 86 years old and has alzheimer's and she is my #1 priority in life.
May 12, '08Specialty: ortho/neuro/general surgery ; Joined: Jul '05; Posts: 778; Likes: 458I'm not afraid of germs. I am a dedicated caring person. I am first a wife and mother, I am a daughter, and then lastly I am a nurse.
Signing off of this futile argument. I've defended my stance enough and so have others of like mindset. I feel no more need to defend myself. My arm is tired of beating this dead horse, it's time to bury him and let him be.
May 12, '08Occupation: IM/Critical Care/Cardiology Specialty: compassion ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 1,555; Likes: 656Quote from RN4NICUN95 masks made by the 3M company offers these for sale off their web site. My husband and I have 100's from his work because of his type of work.This still does not address the issue of PPE for these community volunteers. The hospitals will have to protect their supplies - they'll be short enough without sharing it with non-hospital providers (recall that in the given scenario, hospitals are running out of PPE). Most people do not keep a personal stash of PPE - where would they get it?
May 13, '08Occupation: Peri Operative Director Specialty: PACU/ED/ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 4; Likes: 2No. The only reason being I have MS. My immunity is already compromised from frequent very high dose Solu=Medrol. So I don't think I could risk it.
May 13, '08Occupation: Charge/Floor Nurse From: SC ; Joined: Feb '08; Posts: 27; Likes: 11Yes I would. I would have to make shift my own PPEs again. As fas as the government helping, in my personnel experence with the government, that is a joke. The government is not helping the vets enough as it is, so unless we are classed as a third world citizen, we will not get much help.
But working during this will be for my patients not for the government.
May 13, '08Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,951Have said it before and will say it again: NO.
I am just being honest.
May 13, '08Joined: Jun '05; Posts: 6,742; Likes: 1,030Nope- don't think so. I just don't think I can do it - I would want to be taking care of my own family.
May 14, '08Occupation: visiting nurse Specialty: Too many to list ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '06; Posts: 5,909; Likes: 1,741OSHA's Proposed Guidance On Respirators And Facemasks
Quote from afludiary.blogspot.com
OSHA, the Occupational Safety & Health Administration, released their proposed guidance for Workplace Stockpiling of Respirators and Facemask for Pandemic Influenza yesterday. OSHA is looking for public comment on these proposed guidelines, and will accept written submissions until July 8th, 2008.
As stipulated in yesterday's release, these guidelines are not yet adopted.
This proposed guidance reflects the current thinking on the stockpiling of respirators and facemasks for the purpose of pandemic influenza preparedness. The information contained in this document is distributed solely for the purpose of pre-dissemination public comment. It has not been formally disseminated by DOL. It does not represent and should not be construed to represent any agency determination or policy.
Although I've run the numbers in a back-of-an- envelope calculation before, showing that our national stockpile of PPE's would be quickly exhausted in a pandemic, OSHA has put together some more detailed numbers.
...we may see multiple waves, and our ability to resupply in between waves may be severely limited.
May 15, '08Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 1,193; Likes: 2,896Considering the prodromal infectious period, you're safer at work with precautions than in the mall, food store, etc. Are you going to give up all human contact until the disease passes? It's do-able, but requires quick and thorough planning and weeks locked away from the world. I'd certainly make radical changes in my lifestyle, but doubt I'd abandon work.
May 18, '08Occupation: Disabled Specialty: Operating Room ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '07; Posts: 31; Likes: 12I don't have to think to critically about this one. No I would not go to work. No one can make me do anything, this is a free country. Also-- Darwins Theory of Evolution comes to mind-- "Survival of the smartest and the fitest". It's not that I do not care about people, but if I'm sick or dead I can't help anyone so it's basically a no brainer. No PPE's No help. I also don't trust the government to help me in time of a crisis. My mom and dad always say "God helps those who help themselves". I believe this to be true.
May 18, '08Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 160; Likes: 158For the individual with the children, how would staying home in such a situation protect or prolong the life of your children.
For the writer who speaks of the role the nurse play, "Here, Here. It may be time for those who lack that insight to reconsider why they chose this profession. I am not being judgemental, I am suggesting that re-evaluating your involvement in a profession that asks that we go beyond ourselves and our personal agenda may be in order. nanacarol
May 18, '08Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 160; Likes: 158I don't believe that any of us who advocate staying or reporting are being judgemental. I believe we are trying to point out what we believe to be a mandate for the nurse, Each of us has to answer individually.You indicate that God is first in your hierachy, that is great, I take that position as well, for me, when I place God at the helm, then He will direct my actions, which means, for me I will be directed as to what is most appropriate for the time. Nanacarol
May 18, '08Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 137; Likes: 158Quote from dthfytrAre you going to give up all human contact until the disease passes? It's do-able, but requires quick and thorough planning and weeks locked away from the world.
That's exactly what I'm going to do. I'll be in my house and nobody's coming in. The flu spreads either by droplet or by air, but even by air it requires a pretty decent proximity to people. Which is why I won't be close to them.
The time for planning is NOW. You don't want to be part of the pack of idiots stampeding to Wal-Mart to try and buy bottled water and SPAM. That goes for any disaster, not just the flu. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.Last edit by bigjim on May 18, '08