Denver School of Nursing

michellemybelle · Nov 16, 2004

I've applied to two Denver schools--Regis University and the University of Colorado Health Science Center as a BSN transfer student. When I read your post, I was really surprised that there was another nursing school in the Denver area. But, when I went to the website, I was a little leary...they are not accredited by the NLNAC or any other similar organization. Even if they are a new school and are awaiting accreditation, they should at least mention this on their website, as I've seen it on many other new schools offering a BSN. I would be really careful; if they are not accredited by some national nursing organization (NLNAC or AACN--something like this?) it may be hard for you to find a job once you graduate.

Be careful, and best of luck to you,

Michelle :)

adventuregirl, MSN, NP · Nov 17, 2004

Michelle, thanks for the info. DSN states that they've been granted "Phase III Approval" for their program to allow grads to take the NCLEX-RN through the Colorado State Board of Nursing. I would think that passing the NCLEX would be good enough for getting a job ... maybe not. I just emailed the Colorado State Board of Nursing, as well as the other two organizations you mentioned (NLNAC and AACN) to find out more. So, we'll see what info/advice they have to offer.

karen#1 · Nov 18, 2004

I have also been looking into the DSON upper division program and have the same concerns about the lack of accredidation and how it would effect my ability to get a job after the program. Another downside to the program is that they have very little financial aid avaiable, and the program is around $30,000. It sounds like you can get enough financial aid to pay for the program but not much extra for living expenses while you're in school. Please share any information you all find out about the program. It's an interesting option, but it's kinda scary thinking about spending all that money and having trouble getting a job when your done. :confused:

adventuregirl, MSN, NP · Nov 19, 2004

i'm not concerned with getting a job, esp. after passing the nclex. i honestly don't think it will be a problem. also, with dson being a new school, they want to have a good pass rate to look good. i spoke with their dir. of ed (who was previously an instructor at regis) and the program sounds great. i'm more concerned about continuing on for a master's, since most nursing programs require an bsn to get your msn or np. i rec'd an email back from a nursing education consultant with the co board of nursing who verified my thinking. she also said that if the program doesn't receive approval to grant a bsn that you might be able to have your transcripts evaluated and to keep copies of all your syllabi from each of your classes. i think my next action is to contact a few grad schools and see what they have to say.

the tuition stinks, but to me it's better than waiting an extra year making peanuts (as i quit my better paying job - which i hated - to finish up prerequisites and in the meantime work at an assisted living facility with alzheimer's residents - which i love!). no financial aid but i luckily own a house and can get a home equity loan where you can write-off the interest.

i'd love to have more options for schools, but greeley, pueblo and uchs are out due to the commute (i go by bus - i prefer not to drive), metro was an option but they're accelerate program is in limbo until they evaluate it and find a clinical site. that leaves dson as i don't want to be put on a 3 year wait list at a community college. so ... we'll see what i find out after a little more research. :uhoh3:

michellemybelle · Nov 20, 2004

I went back and looked at the website for DON and was further surprised; are they granting degrees? I never saw anything that said ADN or BSN, instead they call them "programs" like their "4-Year Upper Division Program." I'm glad you're researching it further and would love to hear what you find out.

Good luck!

Michelle :)

adventuregirl, MSN, NP · Nov 22, 2004

are they granting degrees?

No, not as of yet. They have applied through the Commission of Higher Ed and I received email back from the office that is handling it. I'm told it takes 2-4 years to become accredited to grant degrees, though they are accredited as a private occupational school. So, you can take the NCLEX, but you won't receive a degree as of yet.

I did find out that UCSHC has a RN-MSN program that allows you to continue on for a Master's w/o a BSN. There are also several programs out there that will allow you to continue on with just a BS instead of a BSN. That was good news for me, I guess. I'm still trying to find out more from grad schools in CO.

innovativemurse · Nov 23, 2004

I think it's smart to not pursue this right now. With all of the hard work you put into your education you want to make sure you are getting a degree. I have heard very little about this school, however I do know this but don't know if it has anything to do with the program...one of the associate professors from this school is back at UCHSC teaching, which leads me to believe that things didn't work out for her at this institution. What degree are you looking to complete if I may ask? Maybe I can offer some assistance.

pjw · Nov 30, 2004

I have read all of your discussions and I'm with adventure girl...are you going to start the program? I think I am going to go in Friday and just do it. Even if they can't offer the BSN by the time we graduate we can at least be practicing RN's. I like the idea of the RN-MSN program at UCHSC. I have researched all of this for months and I have the same concerns, but as long as we can at least get our RN we should be fine, right???

I'm not concerned with getting a job, esp. after passing the NCLEX. I honestly don't think it will be a problem. Also, with DSON being a new school, they want to have a good pass rate to look good. I spoke with their Dir. of Ed (who was previously an instructor at Regis) and the program sounds great. I'm more concerned about continuing on for a Master's, since most nursing programs require an BSN to get your MSN or NP. I rec'd an email back from a nursing education consultant with the CO Board of Nursing who verified my thinking. She also said that if the program doesn't receive approval to grant a BSN that you might be able to have your transcripts evaluated and to keep copies of all your syllabi from each of your classes. I think my next action is to contact a few grad schools and see what they have to say.
The tuition stinks, but to me it's better than waiting an extra year making peanuts (as I quit my better paying job - which I hated - to finish up prerequisites and in the meantime work at an assisted living facility with Alzheimer's residents - which I love!). No financial aid but I luckily own a house and can get a home equity loan where you can write-off the interest.
I'd love to have more options for schools, but Greeley, Pueblo and UCHS are out due to the commute (I go by bus - I prefer not to drive), Metro was an option but they're accelerate program is in limbo until they evaluate it and find a clinical site. That leaves DSON as I don't want to be put on a 3 year wait list at a community college. So ... we'll see what I find out after a little more research.

epitome · Dec 1, 2004

I am on several waiting list and fed up! So i decided to go to DSN and give it a shot. Right now i am a little scared about the program because it is new. However, i do like the idea of starting clinicals in January. I was interested to know if you (adventuregirl) have found any information about grad schools. I am somewhat relieved to know that i am not the only one a little nervous about the program. I think i am going to do it though. While it is a lot of money, i am ready to start school now, as i already have all my pre-req's done. Anyway thanks for the information you have already posted.

adventuregirl, MSN, NP · Dec 1, 2004

I am on several waiting list and fed up! So i decided to go to DSN and give it a shot. Right now i am a little scared about the program because it is new. However, i do like the idea of starting clinicals in January. I was interested to know if you (adventuregirl) have found any information about grad schools. I am somewhat relieved to know that i am not the only one a little nervous about the program. I think i am going to do it though. While it is a lot of money, i am ready to start school now, as i already have all my pre-req's done. Anyway thanks for the information you have already posted.

Let's see ... what have I found out about grad schools ... some will only accept coursework from accredited schools, however some will admit you provisionally. There are also grad schools that offer RN-MSN options (UCHSC & Beth-El), as well as BS-MSN options (I don't think there are any in CO though). I'm still looking into accelerated BSN options - specifically Beth El and crossing my fingers Metro will offer another cohort next year. However, if nothing pans out, DSON is my next best option as I don't want to wait yet another year to start school. The waiting is killing me too!

Feel free to email me personally with any other specific questions, concerns, etc. [email protected]

innovativemurse · Dec 2, 2004

I actually attend UCHSC and I'm almost finished. It is my personal and professional opinion that you should attend a school that is accredited and/or contact the board of nursing directly about this school. If you want to attend grad school whether it be hear or anywhere, I am sure there will be concerns about where you received your undergrad. UCHSC has an accelerated program for those who have another degree, they just started it this year. I know the waiting lists are long, but keep applying and apply out of state if you have to. I came here to go to school from the east coast. Just get through nursing school...that's all you have to do. It's tough but worth it because you can then focus on what kind of nursing you want to do and have a more "tailored" experience in grad school. I have heard through the "grape vine" that this school wasn't doing so well and one of the professors who was teaching came back to UCHSC after just a few months. This professor may still have some affiliation to the school, but I'll have to ask. Not trying to take the wind out of your sails, just making sure that you have covered all the bases. Good luck. If you guys have any other questions let me know, I am pretty well in the mix when it comes to schools and programs as I have researched a ton.