Published Nov 21, 2008
yelle418
80 Posts
http://calstate.edu/PA/news/2008/systemwide_impaction.shtml
Has anyone seen this yet? Its pretty scary - I wonder why now? We have enough issues to worry about with just the nursing programs, now this???
shodobe
1,260 Posts
Just today they said the reason for this cut was that CSU had 10,000 too many students enrolled and needed to cut back. It just boils down who you want to believe.
NickiLaughs, ADN, BSN, RN
2,387 Posts
I worked for a cal state. Here's what happened:
The state budget for the universities got cut 100's of millions. They have to figure out the best way to alleviate that
A LOT of students enroll, only to drop out half way through, or unenroll right away. This ends up costing the universities money. These classes end up half full or less, which means a lot of teachers that they hired to make sure the classes were available, are not financially productive for the school to at least break even.
The biggest issue with students is first time freshman, that's where the biggest part of enrollment will be cut. Freshman, according to the universities, have the largest drop out rate of all.
A lot of part time faculty got cut, which resulted in less classes, so while there's less classes available across the board, the biggest cut was to the "fun classes"
It stinks, but with the economy the way it is, there will probably be less people at school anyway. Some people are having to work several jobs or under the table to make ends meet, much less consider being able to go back to school.
strobeable
17 Posts
we have enough issues to worry about with just the nursing programs, now this???
it seems like it all just boils down to your college entrance level. this taken from the sjsu application form, for example:
san josé state university is closed for applications from lower division transfers and post-baccalaureates: on thursday, november 20, 2008, in response to the state's worsening fiscal crisis, the california state university system declared system wide impaction for the first time in its history. we appreciate your interest in our campus; however, sjsu must close to lower division transfer and post-baccalaureate applicants regardless of major. students who applied earlier in the cycle will have their applications withdrawn and application fee refunded. more information about these processes will be posted to student’s mysjsu accounts.
on thursday, november 20, 2008, in response to the state's worsening fiscal crisis, the california state university system declared system wide impaction for the first time in its history.
we appreciate your interest in our campus; however, sjsu must close to lower division transfer and post-baccalaureate applicants regardless of major. students who applied earlier in the cycle will have their applications withdrawn and application fee refunded. more information about these processes will be posted to student’s mysjsu accounts.
it's not like these incoming freshmen, seconday baccalaureates or international students are even guaranteed a spot in a csu nursing program anyway. i'm sure like most upper division transferees such as myself, they still have to jump through hoops of 2-3 years of grueling prerequisites, screenings and program applications themselves. it is because of this impaction that upperclassmen and county residents get priority---which is certainly not a bad thing. i am positive that any other of my "super senior" peers are just as anxious to get through school and into the real world with full-time jobs. let's just hope this recession doesn't last for more than 2 years.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
This is happening all over the country now. And not just with nursing. Budget restraints are necessitating that they decrease the number of students to be able to come close to balancing their budgets.
Things are going to get worse before they get better, that is a definite. And it should actually come as no surprise since the issues with the CA budget or lack of have been in the news almost on a daily basis.
Cuts to state programs have to occur when there is not enough money for them.