Complaints against a school

Disablednurse · Apr 25, 2003

They did that where I went to nursing school too. Except that they "weeded out" an afro-american student and then picked out a white student that would not complain, so that no fuss would be made. Both of these students would have made a wonderful RN. It was everyones loss.

Disablednurse · Apr 25, 2003

They did that where I went to nursing school too. Except that they "weeded out" an afro-american student and then picked out a white student that would not complain, so that no fuss would be made. Both of these students would have made a wonderful RN. It was everyones loss.

KELLYGIRL · Apr 25, 2003

I was almost "weeded out". I had an instructor that had it out for me. I was at fault for turning in a paper late. Doing that put a target on me. I went to the conference meeting with 3 instructors (1 being "him") and the head of the nursing dept. I took the blame for my wrongdoing and apologized. After completing the extra work assignments that they assigned, I was back in the race. I had another instructor tell me "They told me they don't think you will make it, and I think you will, I know you can do it."

Just thinking of those words ..."they don't think you will make it"... ... it just made me work even harder.

Now I am only a few days away from graduating. Thank God. I prayed about it and asked God to take care of the situation and I would do what was needed on my part.

"If God brings you to it, He'll bring you through it."

I hope everything goes well for you and your DH. Praying for you.

KELLYGIRL · Apr 25, 2003

I was almost "weeded out". I had an instructor that had it out for me. I was at fault for turning in a paper late. Doing that put a target on me. I went to the conference meeting with 3 instructors (1 being "him") and the head of the nursing dept. I took the blame for my wrongdoing and apologized. After completing the extra work assignments that they assigned, I was back in the race. I had another instructor tell me "They told me they don't think you will make it, and I think you will, I know you can do it."

Just thinking of those words ..."they don't think you will make it"... ... it just made me work even harder.

Now I am only a few days away from graduating. Thank God. I prayed about it and asked God to take care of the situation and I would do what was needed on my part.

"If God brings you to it, He'll bring you through it."

I hope everything goes well for you and your DH. Praying for you.

essarge · Apr 25, 2003

"If God brings you to it, He'll bring you through it."

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Well put!! I ask daily for Him to help me through it. So far He has answered my prayers!!

essarge · Apr 25, 2003

"If God brings you to it, He'll bring you through it."

________________________________________

Well put!! I ask daily for Him to help me through it. So far He has answered my prayers!!

suzielee · Apr 25, 2003

Okay-get a load of this. In my first 7 weeks of schhol we spent our clinical time in lab reviewing things like how to assess vital signs, perform bed baths, make a bed etc. Prior to going out on the floor a teacher told me she would get me to quit if it was the last thing she ever did. She said I wasnt "nursing material". She thought I would be abusive to patients (direct quote) I was freaked out. She had never seen or observed me interacting with patients or conducting patient care as we had not yet gotten to that point in our program. When I got to clinical she through a wheelchair at my hip full force and left a beautiful bruise because I wasnt moving fast enough. (Now whos abusive) She would belittle me in front of patients and their families telling them how stupid I was. When she saw my exam marks (90s) she asked me who I copied off of. I just wrote my finals and passed with the highest mark in the school. All my clinical teachers after this witch praised ny patient interactions and interpersonal skills. I have recieved rewards for my patient care. Dont give up!!!!!!! It is in my opinion that some of these profs are emotionally or psychologically disturbed (re: personality disorders) It is my opinion that they choose to teach because they dont get along well in the nursing world. If this witch was that cruel to me - how did she treat her patients when she was actively practicing? Scary! Keep your nose to the grindstone-do your best-and @#$ the nuts that try to get in your way. They have the compassion, empathy and personality of a brussel sprout-. Consider it a learning experience on how to deal with abusive personalities. It will come in handy one day. Everything is a learning expereince!

suzielee · Apr 25, 2003

Okay-get a load of this. In my first 7 weeks of schhol we spent our clinical time in lab reviewing things like how to assess vital signs, perform bed baths, make a bed etc. Prior to going out on the floor a teacher told me she would get me to quit if it was the last thing she ever did. She said I wasnt "nursing material". She thought I would be abusive to patients (direct quote) I was freaked out. She had never seen or observed me interacting with patients or conducting patient care as we had not yet gotten to that point in our program. When I got to clinical she through a wheelchair at my hip full force and left a beautiful bruise because I wasnt moving fast enough. (Now whos abusive) She would belittle me in front of patients and their families telling them how stupid I was. When she saw my exam marks (90s) she asked me who I copied off of. I just wrote my finals and passed with the highest mark in the school. All my clinical teachers after this witch praised ny patient interactions and interpersonal skills. I have recieved rewards for my patient care. Dont give up!!!!!!! It is in my opinion that some of these profs are emotionally or psychologically disturbed (re: personality disorders) It is my opinion that they choose to teach because they dont get along well in the nursing world. If this witch was that cruel to me - how did she treat her patients when she was actively practicing? Scary! Keep your nose to the grindstone-do your best-and @#$ the nuts that try to get in your way. They have the compassion, empathy and personality of a brussel sprout-. Consider it a learning experience on how to deal with abusive personalities. It will come in handy one day. Everything is a learning expereince!

essarge · Apr 25, 2003

suzie,

You are a much calmer person than I would have been if someone would have thrown a wheelchair my way. That is much more than "abuse"....that is assault!! Not only would I have filed a formal complaint against the teacher to have them removed from their job, I would have pressed legal charges and had them arrested for assault. There is absolutely no excuse for that type of action from a professional!! Bless you for being so calm!! And congratulations on your excellent standing in the school!!!

essarge · Apr 25, 2003

suzie,

You are a much calmer person than I would have been if someone would have thrown a wheelchair my way. That is much more than "abuse"....that is assault!! Not only would I have filed a formal complaint against the teacher to have them removed from their job, I would have pressed legal charges and had them arrested for assault. There is absolutely no excuse for that type of action from a professional!! Bless you for being so calm!! And congratulations on your excellent standing in the school!!!

BABNRS · Apr 25, 2003

OK everybody, here is the update on my hubby.

Yesterday (04/24/03) he turned his 3 page typewritten appeal letter. The director called him in and told him that she couldn't accept it because it wasn't on "our blue form". He had a brief discussion with her during which she told him again that she was not going to discuss the complaint with him. His spirit broken, he left her office without the blue form. He called me and I told him to march right over to Dean "W"'s office. When he got there, the Director and the lead instructor were already in there. He went to the next link on the "Chain" but Dean "S" was out of the office. He left a copy of his appeal letter and his cell # with Dean S's secretary. He waited outside of Dean W's office. They came out, he went in (still feeling defeated) and asked how he could withdraw or if he had a chance with his appeal. The dean told him that she had over-ruled the Director and would accept his appeal as written or she would grant him a "W" due to the special circumstances. He told her he would think about it and let her know his decision in the morning. On our way home, Dean S called him on his cell. Hubby told him that he has tried every way that he knows to resolve these issues (which, the most recent issue - they won't even tell him what the complaint was about) and the only option he feels he has left is to get an attorney. Dean S was a little ticked that he said that and told him "Don't threaten me with an attorney, I hate it when people say that. An attorney can't do a thing until you follow our process of resolution". Dean S had already talked to Dean W and thought my Hubby had already withdrawn. He told him that he had not withdrawn yet, that he left Dean W's office with the understanding that he would let her know today whether he would pursue the appeal or withdraw. Hubby asked Dean S if there was even time to go through the appeal process since there are only 6 days left in the semester - NO ANSWER. He just told him that if he decided to go through the appeal process how it would go and reminded him that he would HAVE to do that before he could get an attorney. HMMMMMM I don't know about that one.

So here are the choices:

1. Do nothing and fail level 2 (this is not really an option since he had to repeat level 1 because he missed the 80 avg by 2 points. He had severe test anxiety, went to a psychiatrist, was put on medication and sailed through level 1. Now with a 90 average and otherwise passing, he will have " failed" 2 semesters making him ineligible for acceptance into any other program)

2. Pursue the appeal, work his butt off for the next 6 days (2 lab checkoff tests, 1 major lecture test, a professional development packet, his clinical packet from Tuesday) while his focus is off worrying about his appeal. There will be no guarantee that all of this work will pay off and he could fail anyway and be back to option #1's description of ineligibility to transfer to another program.

3. Admit there is no way to win with these crazy people and take the "W" which will basically mean that this semester never happened and keep his current GPA and be eligible to transfer. The only drawback to this option is that the program he is applying to requires a letter of recommendation from his current program's Director!! That should be forthcoming!!!

So, right now he is at the school making sure he can get his letter of recommendation (he was going straight to Dean "W" to have her get it from the Director). His plan is to tell her that he wants the letter of recommendation and that he will officially withdraw. Otherwise he will pursue his appeal. He wouldn't have anything to lose at that point. He can't get into another program without that letter anyway. Soooooooo..... I will update when I know more!

Thank you all so much for your support and encouraging words. He is actually in good spirits about it now. He has come to the understanding that there are evil people in this world and is looking forward to a fresh start. He told me... "besides, I will be twice as good since I have gone through nursing school twice!!!!"

BABNRS · Apr 25, 2003

OK everybody, here is the update on my hubby.

Yesterday (04/24/03) he turned his 3 page typewritten appeal letter. The director called him in and told him that she couldn't accept it because it wasn't on "our blue form". He had a brief discussion with her during which she told him again that she was not going to discuss the complaint with him. His spirit broken, he left her office without the blue form. He called me and I told him to march right over to Dean "W"'s office. When he got there, the Director and the lead instructor were already in there. He went to the next link on the "Chain" but Dean "S" was out of the office. He left a copy of his appeal letter and his cell # with Dean S's secretary. He waited outside of Dean W's office. They came out, he went in (still feeling defeated) and asked how he could withdraw or if he had a chance with his appeal. The dean told him that she had over-ruled the Director and would accept his appeal as written or she would grant him a "W" due to the special circumstances. He told her he would think about it and let her know his decision in the morning. On our way home, Dean S called him on his cell. Hubby told him that he has tried every way that he knows to resolve these issues (which, the most recent issue - they won't even tell him what the complaint was about) and the only option he feels he has left is to get an attorney. Dean S was a little ticked that he said that and told him "Don't threaten me with an attorney, I hate it when people say that. An attorney can't do a thing until you follow our process of resolution". Dean S had already talked to Dean W and thought my Hubby had already withdrawn. He told him that he had not withdrawn yet, that he left Dean W's office with the understanding that he would let her know today whether he would pursue the appeal or withdraw. Hubby asked Dean S if there was even time to go through the appeal process since there are only 6 days left in the semester - NO ANSWER. He just told him that if he decided to go through the appeal process how it would go and reminded him that he would HAVE to do that before he could get an attorney. HMMMMMM I don't know about that one.

So here are the choices:

1. Do nothing and fail level 2 (this is not really an option since he had to repeat level 1 because he missed the 80 avg by 2 points. He had severe test anxiety, went to a psychiatrist, was put on medication and sailed through level 1. Now with a 90 average and otherwise passing, he will have " failed" 2 semesters making him ineligible for acceptance into any other program)

2. Pursue the appeal, work his butt off for the next 6 days (2 lab checkoff tests, 1 major lecture test, a professional development packet, his clinical packet from Tuesday) while his focus is off worrying about his appeal. There will be no guarantee that all of this work will pay off and he could fail anyway and be back to option #1's description of ineligibility to transfer to another program.

3. Admit there is no way to win with these crazy people and take the "W" which will basically mean that this semester never happened and keep his current GPA and be eligible to transfer. The only drawback to this option is that the program he is applying to requires a letter of recommendation from his current program's Director!! That should be forthcoming!!!

So, right now he is at the school making sure he can get his letter of recommendation (he was going straight to Dean "W" to have her get it from the Director). His plan is to tell her that he wants the letter of recommendation and that he will officially withdraw. Otherwise he will pursue his appeal. He wouldn't have anything to lose at that point. He can't get into another program without that letter anyway. Soooooooo..... I will update when I know more!

Thank you all so much for your support and encouraging words. He is actually in good spirits about it now. He has come to the understanding that there are evil people in this world and is looking forward to a fresh start. He told me... "besides, I will be twice as good since I have gone through nursing school twice!!!!"