1. Has anyone joined this National Nursing Organization yet?? They say that they have over 60,000 members.
    They want to provide a National Nursing Union however at some point in the future to help nationalize standards for nurses
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  3. by   lee1
    My state has been blanketed with their postcards that provide brief information, has yours???
  4. by   ragingmomster
    I'm in MA and have never heard of this.

  5. by   NRSKarenRN
    nnoc is a new affiliate of the california nurses association union, and is attempting to organize a national union.

    from the cna website frontpage:

    affiliated organizations
    southern arizona nurses coalition * st. louis area nurses coalition * california nurses foundation
    national nurses organizing committee

    i don't quite know why they are creating the national nurses organizing committee, when they already started the american association of registered nurses in 2000, unless nnoc will included lpn's.


    their already is a national nurses union:

    uan--"the union for nurses, by nurses--is the largest, most effective union for registered nurses in the country, bringing together 100,000 rns in the federal, private and public sector."

    united american nurse began about 2000 when ana nurses through state nurses unions joined together to improve their collective bargining power for nurses via strength in numbers along with a focus on patient advocacy.

    "uan nurses, through state nurses associations, raise our voices in our hospitals, in our states and at the national level on issues important to registered nurses delivering direct patient care.
    we are active through our union on key issues for rns, and in the legislative and policy arenas."
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jan 15, '05
  6. by   MissPiggy
    Quote from ragingmomster
    I'm in MA and have never heard of this.

    I'm in Texas (very anti-union state) and have also never heard of it... would be VERY interested in learning more about it, as, I believe, would some of my colleagues.
  7. by   NRSKarenRN
    California group seeks to destabilize state associations, local units http://www.nysna.org/departments/co...4/dec/unity.htm
  8. by   geekgolightly
    karen I hope you reply to this... or anyone who has been following NNOC. i want to know if this is something to be trusted or not. I feel almost like I am being duped into joining, as if the CNA made such a fuss in California about staffing ratios in order to draw attention to themselves so that they could become national. I am nervous about a national organization that I know little about. i want to know how people are promoted and how we, the nurses who join, have a say-so in who is fired right to the very top, if we do not like the way they are running the organization.

    Does anyone know anything baout the NNOC or the UAN?

    I am very pro-organizing and getting things done, but I want to be sure that I, and all of my fellow members have a democratic voice within the organization.

  9. by   NRSKarenRN
    NNOC is the new national organizing union campign by CNA. Don't have much more info than what I allready posted; don't know officers or how organization is run.

    UAN is an established national nursing union composed of those ANA states that have collective bargaining activities/unions. Some of these unions are 20+years old or more in the case of NY state. They are also the union at VA and federal facilities. Head and BOD of UAN are active staff nurses. I've met and spoke to Cheryl Johnson, very empowering critical care nurse from Michigan at ANA conventions. http://nursingworld.org/uan/officers.htm
    Let me tell you, they have created a very strong presence at ANA convention where most delegates in collective bargaining states are now beside nurse involved in union activity and VOCAL in setting national ANA policies past 3 conventions.
    UAN Issues link: http://nursingworld.org/uan/issues.htm

  10. by   NRSKarenRN
    google search only shows nnoc website info posted above; no mention of leadership on site.

    did find these organizations expressing concerns:

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    [color=#990000]by: deborah hackman, georgia nurses association ceo

    webster's dictionary describes an "interloper" as one who intrudes or interferes; an encroachment. you might question why anyone who claims to be professional would want to engage in such behavior. so do i. unfortunately there is a broad scale national effort by the california nurses association (also known as nnoc - national nurses organizing committee) to do just that. georgia is their latest target for encroachment.

    labor relations board issues complaint against cook county cook/john h. stroger jr. hospital, reports illinois nurses association


    south carolina human resources assoc:

    california nurses association invites your nurses to join!

    flush with success over recent organizing efforts in california and the passage and mandatory staff-nurse ratios in that state, the california nurses association has created a "national nurses organizing committee" (nnoc). in october, the nnoc mailed a letter and brochure that was an 'invitation to join with the california nurses association and rns throughout the nation to help build a new national movement for direct care rns" into many southeastern states.

    one goal of the nnoc is to sponsor continuing education sessions on 'topics of the greatest urgency for direct care rns including safe staffing, the latest trends on hospital restructuring, and how to protect your practice." according to the brochure, mail-outs for the sessions will be sent in january to march, 2005.

    another goal is to advance the "cause of direct care rns across the nation through effective professional representation, a stronger voice in the legislative and regulatory arena, collective patient advocacy, and building rn power through new organizing".

    the cna is positioning itself as an "alternative to the american nurses association/union of american nurses and its affiliated state nurse associations." cna states that the ana has "promoted the interests of nursing management and the hospital industry at the expense of direct care nurses and patient care for far too long. decades of low pay and disrespect for nurses is a legacy of the ana's failure to effectively advocate for direct care rns".

    from labor lawyers:
    [font=goudyolstbt,bold]california nurses association using nnoc to move organizing attempts eastward

    [font=goudyolstbt]rumpeting an agenda that purports to advance "the cause of direct care rns across the nation," the california nurses association (cna) is charging eastward with ambitious new organizing tactics that could affect healthcare providers around the nation. cna is seizing upon personnel shortages and the thorny issue of nurse-to-patient staffing ratios to spearhead its efforts. using its newly formed national nurses organizing committee (nnoc), the union has scheduled a series of so-called continuing education sessions, which are likely to amount to little more than thinly veiled organizing meetings. this is not the first time that the cna has used ostensible "education sessions" to drum up support. this time, however, the union has apparently refined its approach and planned it more carefully.
    the upcoming "educational" programs are entitled, "collective patient advocacy: strategies to promote a single standard for safe patient care."

    cna: creating disunity rather than building "one voice

    hpae's 11,000 members have made significant gains in recent years, we continue to fight for improved staffing, quality patient care, and good wages and benefits. unfortunately, our efforts are hampered by the lack of coordination and unity among health care unions in new jersey and southeastern pennsylvania.

    in new jersey, hpae is by far the largest union for health care professionals. however, six other unions represent nurses and ten unions represent hospital workers as a whole. there is virtually no coordination among those unions. because health care unions are not working together with "one voice," we are all failing to build the maximum strength to establish high standards of wages, benefits, and conditions.

    given the need for coordination and unity, it is all the more unfortunate that another union - based in california - has expanded its operations to new jersey. the california nurses association (cna) is attempting to recruit registered nurses in new jersey to a new group they created, the national nurses organizing committee (nnoc)....

    the cna/nnoc's efforts are counterproductive because they will cause more destructive competition among health care unions...
    they appear to be targeting nurses who are already organized in other unions. the union lingo for this is "raiding". raiding another union to get their members is prohibited in the afl-cio, the national labor organization with whom hpae is affiliated. however, the california nurses association is not part of the afl-cio, so their actions, as detrimental as they might be, are outside of the scope of decent union principles and conduct.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 25, '05
  11. by   -jt
    heres a couple to add to your list, Karen

    California Nurses Association Targets ANA Members

    NNOC's Hype to Nurses
  12. by   -jt
    Quote from geekgolightly
    Does anyone know anything about the NNOC or the UAN?
    I can tell you about the UAN but youll get more detailed info from our website www.UANnurse.org

    Karen got it right except that the UAN is not part of the ANA. It was initially created by staff nurse members of the ANA but it is now a separate, independent, self-governing, self-financing, autonomous labor union for direct care RNs only and is run by them. The UAN is affiliated with the AFL-CIO and the ANA and as such, has a strong voice in both organizations. But the ANA has no voice in the UAN. The ANA is not involved in the function or activity of the UAN nor does it have any control over us or our finances.

    The UAN is not the ANA.

    The UAN is the largest union of nurses and is the one and only national union for direct care nurses (staff nurses). All of the 105,000 (so far) members from coast to coast (including Alaska & Hawaii), the delegates, and the executive board are all working direct care nurses represented for collective bargaining by their state nurses assoc or one nearby if their own state nurses assoc doesnt have a collective bargaining branch. (ie: NJ state nurses assoc does not provide collective bargaining so they have an agreement with NY state nurses assoc to provide union services to their members).

    The NNOC is the organizing branch of the CNA created, as I understand it, to "organize" for CNA in other states. But instead, they have been raiding groups of nurses in other states who are already organized in other unions. They are currently disrupting unionized nurses in Chicago. Staff nurses in NYC recently threw them out of their hospital when they showed up to distribute flyers trying to turn the nurses against their union. Nurses in Hawaii threw them out when they tried to take over their union and prevent the Hawaii nurses union from joining UAN. And those nurses had to go so far as to get a court order to keep them out so they could take their vote without outside interference. There are several posts somewhere on this board from Hawaii nurses telling all about what that organization put them through.
    The Hawaii Nurses Assoc staff nurses fought the attempted hostile take-over & voted 5:1 to join UAN and they are our newest members.

    Instead of going around the country trying to break apart other unionized nurses, that Calif union should be working together with all of the others to combat the common problems we're all facing on the frontlines. Out of the 330,000 RNs in Calif, only approx 60,000 have joined them. It seems to me that it would make more sense for that union to focus on organizing the unorganized nurses in their own state before they take their members dues money across the country & spend it trying to tear apart other nurses.
  13. by   -jt
    Nurses in Hawaii who had first hand experience with one of the organizations youre asking about tell about it in the following thread:

  14. by   Nancy2
    Quote from lee1
    Has anyone joined this National Nursing Organization yet?? They say that they have over 60,000 members.
    They want to provide a National Nursing Union however at some point in the future to help nationalize standards for nurses
    The NNOC is the CNA. The Executive director is not a nurse, she is a former Teamster who was hired by CNA and was instrumental in the parting of the ways with the ANA in 1995. She is a very aggressive organizer and CNA has very musch changed from a professional association to a very "blue collar" type union.
    You can obtain the bylaws of how they work from the Department of Labor. dol.gov.
    You can also obtain their financial disclosure from this site; called an LM-2.
    They donated $10,000 dollars to the Labor Party last year and by the way that is all they allotted for nursing scholarships as well. They just spent $150,000 dollars for a one day ad bashing governor Schwartzenager, but they only gave their members $10,000 in a whole year toward education. That tells me a lot about their priorities.
    Hope this helps,

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