Chances of getting into CRNA school after failing out of an ADN program?

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Hey guys. I decided several years ago that I wanted to become a CRNA, and after originally earning a B.S. in Biology, I returned to college and began an ADN program. However, I failed out of the third semester (out of five) of that program -- and not with a "D" (as most people who fail seem to fail with), but with a stinking, glorious "F." To make matters worse, I was originally attending a university's satellite campus, which decided to NOT matriculate another cohort to follow the one I was (formerly) enrolled in, and I tried to re-take the class I failed during the next semester at the main campus located several hours away, but things just didn't work out.

So with all that having been said, at this point, it's looking like my only option is to completely start-over as a brand-spankin'-new RN student at a totally different program. Luckily enough, I applied to and was accepted by several local ADN programs (as well as a BSN program), so the opportunity to attain and capitalize on that coveted second chance is there.

HOWEVER... even if I do decide to follow-through on starting over at one of these new programs, what will the previous failure mean in the context of my future chances of getting accepted at a decent CRNA program? Will most CRNA programs see that I failed out of a program, couldn't hack re-taking the failed course and managing to continue on with the aforementioned program, and reject me outright? Or would I still have a decent shot at receiving, at the very least, a trickle of interview invites... provided I blast through the new RN program and graduate with a 3.8 - 4.0 GPA?

For what it's worth, my GPA after the failure is right at a 3.5; however, this is also taking into account my previous Biology B.S. grades. I have also already taken upper-level courses such as physics, organic chemistry, biochemistry, physiology, and neuroscience, all as requirements for my Bio degree, so there really aren't many more classes I can think of to take to improve my GPA and impress CRNA admissions committees.

At this point, is it really even worth still trying to become a CRNA? If so, should I just focus on applying to programs that only calculate the most recent 60 credits' worth of courses into an applicant's GPA? ... But even if I manage to graduate from the new nursing program with a 4.0, are there some CRNA programs that have strict policies forbidding the consideration of applicants with previous nursing course failures, regardless of whether they tried to "redeem" themselves by starting over at another program? Thanks in advance for any advice you guys would be willing to offer!

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Thanks for your input. Actually, at this point, I'm about to start at a new ADN program (hopefully) in January, so I'm not sure if I'll end up pursuing a BSN or not after that. If I do, it will primarily be because my GPA still isn't competitive enough for whichever CRNA program(s) I hope to gain admission to after completing the ADN program. In other words, if my GPA is only, say, a 3.54 after I finish the ADN program, then I might see about enrolling in an RN-to-BSN program for the sake of raising my GPA.

I think rather than doing RN to BSN you would be much better off to take about 9 credits of graduate level classes. If you do it right you could even transfer in some or all of them to the program and reduce your work load once in NA school.

All my friends who didn't get in the first time did that. They took 9 credits (9 credits is all the local schools will allow you to take as a special student not in a program) of graduate level classes, did well, then got into NA school the next time they applied.

The qualiety of your ICU experience is going to be important. You know to never, ever tell anyone you want to go to NA school, right? ICU nurse managers hate to spend a lot of time and money training ICU nurses only to have them leave as soon as they have the experience they need to get into NA school.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Oh, I'm listening to you and understand what you're saying, and I acknowledge that things might not go as planned. I guess I'm just trying to stay optimistic that things might work out this time. Everything you say regarding my chances of getting accepted to CRNA school with minimal experience could end up being absolute, prophetic truth. And again, even if that happens to be the case, then what are the implications? I continue working in the ICU for another year, possibly take more classes (if having a low GPA is one of my problems at that point), and re-apply a year later, right?

That would be best case senerio. Worst case is that applying to CRNA school so soon really upsets your nurse manager, you know the one you need to write you a decent letter of recommendation? You may find yourself floated to step down or med-surg, or even told to seek a job someplace else.

We had a nurse in our unit who flatly denied any interest in NA school in her job interview (I was on the peer group who interviewed her), only to apply to NA school the second she completed the 9 month nurse residency program, indicating she had no intention of honoring the 2 year contract she signed to get directly into ICU as a new grad and get all that high qualiety training.

She was invided to take a job on med-surg or pay off her contract and leave.

Specializes in OR.

I have also heard, from students who work in ICU and long time nurses in ICU that the situation of people coming through to get to NA school leaves a bitter taste. Been told MANY times to not mention it. I don't understand why someone would bail at 9 mos -- 2 years is so much stronger, regardless.

Specializes in Emergency Room, Trauma ICU.
I have also heard, from students who work in ICU and long time nurses in ICU that the situation of people coming through to get to NA school leaves a bitter taste. Been told MANY times to not mention it. I don't understand why someone would bail at 9 mos -- 2 years is so much stronger, regardless.

Yep, I've helped with interviews when I was in the Trauma ICU and the two things that made us very wary were if you were coming from out of state and if you mentioned going back to school right away. There was no way we wanted to drop all that time and money training someone, especially a new grad, just to have them peace out.

And honestly, at 6-12 months of working you are barely competent. Most new are still having a lot if anxiety at this time, especially in the ICU. Giving it more time to become a better, stronger nurse is a better plan in my opinion.

Specializes in SI/CV ICU and ER.

You seem to just want to do the minimum and get accepted to 'any' crna school in the country.... Understand this, not all anesthesia schools are created equal, not by a long shot. And trying to get in with 5 months experience is ridiculous, you would be doing the patients a serious disservice. You know ABSOLUTELY nothing after 5-6 months in a high acuity ICU. If you really want to become a CRNA then you need to take everyone's advice and focus on what's in front of you. If you do end up graduating and can find an ICU job right away try to learn as much as you can. You have to be OK being JUST an ICU nurse because not everyone that gets into anesthesia school ends up finishing...

Just my .02

Specializes in OR.
Yep, I've helped with interviews when I was in the Trauma ICU and the two things that made us very wary were if you were coming from out of state and if you mentioned going back to school right away.

I'm an hour's drive from Johns Hopkins and Baltimore's Shock/Trauma -- a lot of us (northern VA) drive up that way because who wouldn't want to put either one of those on their resume?!

I hope I don't face suspicion because I'm actively applying to both... *sigh*

Specializes in Emergency Room, Trauma ICU.
I'm an hour's drive from Johns Hopkins and Baltimore's Shock/Trauma -- a lot of us (northern VA) drive up that way because who wouldn't want to put either one of those on their resume?!

I hope I don't face suspicion because I'm actively applying to both... *sigh*

Sorry I should have clarified. I was living next to CA border and we would get tons of new grads applying to hospitals with the intention of just getting their one year of experience and going back to Cali. In CA it's beyond hard to get a new grad job so this was a pretty common practice. I know in the east coast there's a lot of over lapping when it comes to the states you live and work in. Sorry for any confusion.

That would be best case senerio. Worst case is that applying to CRNA school so soon really upsets your nurse manager, you know the one you need to write you a decent letter of recommendation? You may find yourself floated to step down or med-surg, or even told to seek a job someplace else. We had a nurse in our unit who flatly denied any interest in NA school in her job interview (I was on the peer group who interviewed her), only to apply to NA school the second she completed the 9 month nurse residency program, indicating she had no intention of honoring the 2 year contract she signed to get directly into ICU as a new grad and get all that high qualiety training. She was invided to take a job on med-surg or pay off her contract and leave.
That sucks! But I'm curious -- if she applied after being there for 9 months, and knowing that most CRNA programs have admissions cycles that begin a year before (intended) matriculation, wouldn't she have still been working at the facility for about another year, even if she had been accepted to CRNA school? In other words, even if she had applied and gotten in, she still would've been at the facility for at least another year, right? Wouldn't that have given her around 2 years at the facility by the time of matriculation to CRNA school?
Specializes in OR.

The problem is she tipped her hand -- in order to apply to CRNA school you have to have recommendations of people who supervise you and others. She denied interest (lied) and within 9 mos showed she'd used the department as a stepping stone out... She totally shot herself in the foot and quite possibly in a permanent fashion because you better believe her manager will let the next manager know why she left, if not directly, then in a way that can't be used against her, legally.

I get the feeling you're not really interested in hearing the negatives here. You floated right by my suggestion to call CRNA schools (which is proactive and responsible) and you don't seem to have a wide enough view to read a situation as it is presented to you. I'm not trying to be on your case, but maybe you haven't done enough research into this and how to get in. Being able to work with people and read their responses to your actions, as well as in situations where your entrance to grad school is going to be reliant on your manager liking and respecting you for NOT using them, is a key point in being a) a nurse, b) an ICU nurse and c) a CRNA. They all build upon one another.

Specializes in Emergency Room, Trauma ICU.
The problem is she tipped her hand -- in order to apply to CRNA school you have to have recommendations of people who supervise you and others. She denied interest (lied) and within 9 mos showed she'd used the department as a stepping stone out... She totally shot herself in the foot and quite possibly in a permanent fashion because you better believe her manager will let the next manager know why she left, if not directly, then in a way that can't be used against her, legally.

I get the feeling you're not really interested in hearing the negatives here. You floated right by my suggestion to call CRNA schools (which is proactive and responsible) and you don't seem to have a wide enough view to read a situation as it is presented to you. I'm not trying to be on your case, but maybe you haven't done enough research into this and how to get in. Being able to work with people and read their responses to your actions, as well as in situations where your entrance to grad school is going to be reliant on your manager liking and respecting you for NOT using them, is a key point in being a) a nurse, b) an ICU nurse and c) a CRNA. They all build upon one another.

Yep. The OP has ignored all of my advice on taking things one step at a time and focusing on what's in front of him. Especially since there are about 30 steps between here and there. But no, it's all " you're saying I'm going to flunk out again" or "you're obviously bitter and why I don't want to stay in bedside nursing". I don't know why people ask for advice and then ignore everything everyone says. I guess they were hoping to be praised and find they'll be in CRNA school within two years easy. I just don't get it.

Specializes in SI/CV ICU and ER.

Took me 5 years between graduating with my BSN and starting CRNA school, and some days I feel like I jumped the gun. Chances are, if you can't cut it in a ADN program... you most likely will struggle mightily in anesthesia school. But best of luck :)

Specializes in Emergency Room, Trauma ICU.
Took me 5 years between graduating with my BSN and starting CRNA school, and some days I feel like I jumped the gun. Chances are, if you can't cut it in a ADN program... you most likely will struggle mightily in anesthesia school. But best of luck :)

Yeah that's my thought too. One of my favorite nurses told me she breezed through nursing school without hardly opening a book and it wasn't until CRNA school that she had to learn how to really study. She wasn't bragging, just pointing out how very hard CRNA school is, and that's for a person who aced nursing school with minimal studying. For people who struggle in nursing school, or flunk out, CRNA school will absolutely be a challenge. And the more time you spend honing your skills in the ICU will only help in the long run.

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