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Sorry does that mean no more surgical masks? Because that would make me feel better...
Au contraire, ma soeur! No, but the hospitals now feel better...
They have just been given permission to give you the surgical mask if they run out of N95. They pushed very hard to get the CDC to change the guidance away from the N95, but they did not entirely succeed...
The hospitals say they don't have enough N95. But, is this true?
One of the mask providers, the 3M Company consistently has said at the open IOM hearings on PPE in Washington, and at the recent CIDRAP Conference where I talked to them personally that there is no shortage of these masks. Just "telll us what you want, and we will get it for you!"
There seems to be a disconnect somewhere...
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/guidelines_infection_control.htm
Personal protective equipment (PPE): PPE ranks lowest in the hierarchy of controls. It is a last line of defense for individuals against hazards that cannot otherwise be eliminated or controlled....Careful attention to elimination of potential exposures, engineering controls, and administrative controls will reduce the need to rely on PPE, including respirators. This is an especially important consideration during the current year, when shortages of respirators have already been reported by many healthcare facilities.
Prioritized respirator use: Where a shortage of respirators exists despite reasonable efforts to obtain and maintain a sufficient supply for anticipated needs, in particular for very high exposure risk situations such as some aerosol-generating procedures (listed below), a facility should consider shifting to a prioritized respirator use mode. In this mode, respirator use is prioritized to ensure availability for healthcare personnel at most risk from 2009 H1N1 influenza exposure. Even under conditions of prioritized use, personnel attending aerosol-generating procedures on patients with suspected or confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza should always use respiratory protection at least as protective as fitted N95 respirators.
Facemasks for healthcare personnel who are not provided a respirator due to the implementation of prioritized respirator use: If a facility is in prioritized respirator use mode and unable to provide respirators to healthcare personnel who provide care to suspected and confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza cases, the facility should provide those personnel with facemasks. Facemasks that have been cleared for marketing by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration have been tested for their ability to resist blood and body fluids, and generally provide a physical barrier to droplets that are expelled directly at the user. Although they do not filter small particles from the air and they allow leakage around the mask, they are a barrier to splashes, droplet sprays, and autoinoculation of influenza virus from the hands to the nose and mouth. Thus, they should be chosen over no protection. Routine chemoprophylaxis is not recommended for personnel wearing facemasks during the care of patients with suspected or confirmed 2009 H1N1 influenza.
http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/guidance/control_measures_qa.htm
CDC recognizes current and anticipated shortages; therefore, the guidance also provides for healthcare facilities to develop a risk assessment by which respirators in critically short supply can be issued on a priority basis.
Q. Will there be enough N95 respirators to meet the anticipated demand?
Some healthcare facilities are experiencing shortages of respiratory protection equipment, and further shortages are anticipated. Therefore, appropriate selection and judicious use of respiratory protection is critical. A key strategy is to use recommended administrative measures to reduce the number of workers who come into contact with patients who have influenza-like illness.
".........influenza virus can potentially be transmitted through:
Droplet exposure of mucosal surfaces (e.g., nose, mouth, and eyes) by respiratory secretions from coughing or sneezing;........" quote from indigogirl's OP
What part of the above indicates a decreased need for droplet/respiratory isolation?
The fact that N95 respirator masks have been in use throughout the endemic, should have inspired increased production of same (which has happened).
Knowing the intellect of the Departments that purchase such items, I can imagine the peruser of catalogues for N95s saying to themselves and/or others, "This is expensive, and it's not a mask, it's a respirator!" "It can't be what they want, I'll just get the surgical masks." "They want something that tastes bitter, too? What's going on with that?"
So I usually looked up the items I needed for Infection Control when I worked in that capacity, and ordered them using the number in the catalogue that supplied them and how many were required (a very high # ). When they received my order, a kneejerk response sent those buyers (a misnomer, they hate to buy) directly to administration in protest. I'd meet them at the entrance to administration with my prepared documentation. When that happens, there's no shortage of N95s.
Well...this guidance just gives hospitals more power to say no to the N95 mask...in fact I just had a patient this week, with confirmed H1N!, and I was told to use just a regular mask...I still got the N95 tough!
Good for you!. I would go on down to the paint department in the Big Box stores, and buy my own N95 just in case...Don't want the hospital shortage to be my problem.
ya I thought a few years ago our govt 'prepared' for a pandemic when the threat of bird flu loomed. I guess there is no stockpile available from the govt to protect the frontline people from taking it home and spreading it to family. Makes you wonder what else they don't have available if they have no masks. And they want us to come to work in a pandemic situation? The early threads on this H1N1 most nurses said, "No PPE, No workee." Guess we have to protect ourselves. I think I will get some from the drug store.
At our hospital we are having to wear PAPRs - large helmets with multiple filters and air pumped through into the mask. We had our first H1N1 case last night - a 7 y/o boy. I bet this poor kid has nightmares for the rest of his life due to the "space men" that kept coming into his hospital room. I think this is overkill, it may be appropriate for a TB case but from what I have read on the CDC website an N95 mask is sufficient. Is anyone else's facility using these?
At our hospital we are having to wear PAPRs - large helmets with multiple filters and air pumped through into the mask. We had our first H1N1 case last night - a 7 y/o boy. I bet this poor kid has nightmares for the rest of his life due to the "space men" that kept coming into his hospital room. I think this is overkill, it may be appropriate for a TB case but from what I have read on the CDC website an N95 mask is sufficient. Is anyone else's facility using these?
No, we are wearing the duck billed, N95 which looks scarey enough, and is rather uncomfortable. PAPRs are supposed to be better for pregnant women, but then they really should not be taking care of swine flu patients in the first place, imho.
For people who cannot wear the N95 because of poor fit due to whatever reason such as having a beard etc., then PAPRs are the way to go. It does seem rather expensive and over the top for most of us though.
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http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2009/10/cdc-updates-infection-control-guidance.html
I only posted some of what is on the link.