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This may be a dumb question, but I am slightly confused as to what the requirements are to gain the CCEMT-P certification. I may be reading it wrong, but does one have to be an actual EMT before gaining this? I have seen in some places online that nurses can gain this certification, but do they have to be an EMT also? I am interested in Critical Care Transport, and I have seen that the major teaching hospital in my state requires this cert to do Adult CC Transport.

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Medic09 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN, EMT-P and specializes in ED, Flight.

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Most places that offer the course (it is franchised from UMBC) state that it is open to nurses. I would say contact your local instructing agency or UMBC directly. That's the best way to be sure you get reliable information.

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akulahawkRN has 3 years experience as a ADN, RN, EMT-P and specializes in Emergency Department.

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CCEMTP is the Critical Care Emergency Medical Transport Program. It's not a Paramedic course, and will not confer a Paramedic cert on anyone passing the course. From what I understand, it's a course that gives you an overall perspective on critical care transport. In short, it's essentially an intro course. It's not a comprehensive course that will render the graduate an expert in Critical Care Transport. That doesn't mean that it's not a good course. I may take it eventually. The fact that Paramedics, RN's, RT's, and others can take the course is actually a good thing because it provides a common basis for those different care providers to work from, and work together.

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LearningByMistakes has 34 years experience.

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akulahawk has it correct, the CCEMTP course is a basic introduction to Critical Care Transport and it is open to RN's and RT's. I took my CCEMTP course in 2002 and enjoyed it. RWT NREMT-P, CCEMT-P, FP-C

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SummitRN has 5 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU.

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I'll add that one to my "to do eventually" list.

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Like the previous poster said, CCEMT-P is like a crash course to Critical Care for everyone. It's very good at covering a lot of the basics and is an amazing starting point for everyone. I also remember our instructors (Paramedics, RNs, and MDs) stating that the course is based off of the CCRN course. It's open to RNs, RTs, and Paramedics. I had about a year of CC experience in a high-volume system before I took it, and I felt that was about perfect for me.

The only steps left as a Paramedic after that though are FP-C and CCP-C, but employers won't pay any more for those ($20/hour). Only way to advance from there is to switch fields and start over at square one.

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The only steps left as a Paramedic after that though are FP-C and CCP-C, but employers won't pay any more for those ($20/hour). Only way to advance from there is to switch fields and start over at square one.

Kinda cool to be called a Critical Care Paramedic after just 2 - 3 weeks of training in a class that is basically a no fail. Then you take a couple more tests which have books that feed you the Q&As. You then want more money even though you may have never seen the inside of an ICU or worked with a ventilator or IABP patient. No college is required with such classes like A&P or even college level math. This is more of a scam for charging a hired rate to CMS than actually providing quality competent care.

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LearningByMistakes has 34 years experience.

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Yes, we know TraumaSurfer, all Paramedics are worthless. Feel better now?

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Yes, we know TraumaSurfer, all Paramedics are worthless. Feel better now?
LearningByMistakes, Why do you think Paramedics are worthless? Those were not my words so they must be your thoughts. This is one reason why EMS is still stuck in 1970. Instead of taking note of the problems which exist in EMS education you resort to statements like "all Paramedics are worthless".

My comment was about a cert which some try to pass off as a substitute for real education and experience.

The Vanity of EMS

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So I'm a RN that works for a private Ambulance company that does CCT. We have rigs with: 1 RN an 2 CCEMT-P medics for the nurse calls and for independent CCT rigs with 2 CCEMT-P. The regular medics EMT-P have to work at the company for a while & be high performers even before they are considered for the CC team. They are then put thru the class before they are allowed to function on the team, even then they are paired with experienced CCEMT-P partners - I love & trust the medics I work with - I fully trust they know how to handle vents &/or IABP, just b/c I have RN behind my name doesn't mean we aren't equal - we just have different roles to play in the back of the ambulance.

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So I'm a RN that works for a private Ambulance company that does CCT. We have rigs with: 1 RN an 2 CCEMT-P medics for the nurse calls and for independent CCT rigs with 2 CCEMT-P. The regular medics EMT-P have to work at the company for a while & be high performers even before they are considered for the CC team. They are then put thru the class before they are allowed to function on the team, even then they are paired with experienced CCEMT-P partners - I love & trust the medics I work with - I fully trust they know how to handle vents &/or IABP, just b/c I have RN behind my name doesn't mean we aren't equal - we just have different roles to play in the back of the ambulance.

Let's take "love" out of the equation here. Personal preferences should not blind you on the job. How much training do your Paramedics receive in an actual ICU working with IABP and Ventilator patients? Here is an example of one "outstanding" CCT course...a whopping 72 hours. National EMS Academy offers Critical Care Transport Training for Acadian Ambulance Medics In California the CCTs use 1 RN and 2 EMT-Basics. What state are you from which requires 2 CCEMT-P and an RN for each patient? Unless the patient is on ECMO, usually 2 CCT trained professionals and an EMT (or not) driver is sufficient.

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SummitRN has 5 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU.

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Trauma Surfer... what is your opinion of air ambulances (which primarily deal in CCT) using Nurse/Medic staffing? That seems to be the most common staffing (a few are Nurse/Nurse or Nurse/RRT or even Nurse/MD).

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