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Canadian Nurse getting a job in Las Vegas

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Hi everyone,

I have a few questions. I am a Canadian nurse that applied for a job in Vegas, went for the interview and it was good, I got the position. I've passed the NCLEX, got my visascreen done too, and I thought yeah I got most of the important things done with. I got my license through Minnesota. Now I need to endorse my license. Problem is....I can't get a Nevada license without a social security number, but I can't get a social security number without a TN status (what i was told by the person at the social security office), and I can't get a TN visa until I get a TN letter. Also, the hospital I am going to be working at won't give me a real job offer letter or a TN letter until I get a SSN. My head is spinning in circles. and today the recruiter told me to go get a lawyer and figure out how to get the SSN. I'm so lost and confused. My friends that went to go work in California didn't have this much trouble. They came down here and THEN got their SSN.

Please help me...

thanx!

Silverdragon102, BSN

Has 32 years experience. Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

You will not get a SSN without valid work visa which in your case will be TN. My understanding for TN is a letter of employment and VSC so they really need to give you a letter of employment, you do not need a SSN for that. They are the ones making it hard for you. Many others have gone through this with no problems and no SSN

The hospital employer needs to give you the TN letter so the border/airport immigration inspector can admit you in TN status. Upon admission in TN status, you can get your SS card and endorse your license to Nevada. If the employer wants to make your offer contingent upon presentation of your Nevada license, it shouldn't be a problem at the border. If they are not willing to give you the letter, then look for another employer.

bscn_rn_10_years

Has 10 years experience.

My suggestion to you is to call a social security office( closest to you ) and ask them. Then call the Vegas recruiter and ask for a conditional letter of employment that states "conditional employment offer" this way they are not promising you anything and you are still getting the letter. If that doesn't work ask someone or anyone you know that lives in the states to sponsor you, that way you wouldn't need a letter from Vegas. The SSN office usually pushes the SSN thru fast for nurses....I know alot of nurse who went south , me being one as well. I hope this helps but I would start with the SS office closest to you ask lots of questions etc. Just seems crazy that your recruiter wouldn't be bending over backwards for you, ?! since they are in such need for nurses. I am thinking of returning and working at UMC in Vegas maybe I will see you around. Good luck.:nurse:

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Thanx everyone for your replies! You've been really helpful in making me see this more clearly. I did call the social security office, actually I went in to visit them as well. I even called homeland security cuz they told me to. But at least I know hiring an immigration lawyer isn't the only choice as the recruiter had told me. The manager said she'd get back to me on Tuesday. So i'm excited to hear back from her.

bscn_rn_10_years

Has 10 years experience.

Keep in touch and let us know how it goes for you in Vegas. I am soooo jealous as I hope to be down there (at UMC trauma) in the next year, youngest needs to graduate grade 12. Maybe we will meet up down there wouldn't that be crazy.....good luck:typing

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Keep in touch and let us know how it goes for you in Vegas. I am soooo jealous as I hope to be down there (at UMC trauma) in the next year, youngest needs to graduate grade 12. Maybe we will meet up down there wouldn't that be crazy.....good luck:typing

Hello,

Well today I went into the HR of the hospital I will hopefully be working at just to show one of the HR ladies my BCLS card like I said I would. We started a conversation and she asked me if I got my SSN already and I told her what the others above told me. She was very nice and trying to be helpful and told me that she's just gonna run in and ask the recruiter (the same one that told me to go to an immigration lawyer). Anyhow i told her that there was no need for an immigration lawyer and that all I needed was a TN letter showing the conditions that I would be applying for a SSn and getting my license. Anyhow, she freaked out at me and yelled at me, calling me irresponsible multiple times. She told me that she couldn't believe that I didn't have someone walk me through this because I should've had all my things together before I even applied to the job. And I told her that I asked ppl with this experience and this was what I was told, as well as from my friends that went down to Cali to work. She freaked out at me, cut me off at every sentence I started and threw her hand in the direction of my face. She says "oh so you aaaaaaaaaasssskkk people!! you didn't actually go to an immigration laywer!" And she even told me that "recruiting you has been very difficult!!" however, she has done nothing for me, she's even even answered any questions I had for her, so I don't know what was so difficult.

I love the managers that I met at the hospital, it looks like a plac I can see myself in for a very long time. I'm just so unimpressed at the recruiter!! I couldn't even get a sentence in. I just sat there with tears welling up in my eyes and feeling so belittled.

She was even telling me it's my responsibility to bring in the TN letter myself because she does not have an approved copy.

The first time I met her...she asked me "do you have any questions for me?"

and I asked "Well, since you've seen a lot of nurses come and go through this process, how long does the process usually take?" and she replies..."well honey, you should've done your homework"

wth was that???? seriously

and then she asked me again if i had any questions (that first meeting) and I asked her after she handed me the benefits sheet "what is the difference between PPO and HMO?" and she replied "well you can look that up yourself because i don't have time to tell you all about it"

ugggghhh i'm just soo upset right now.

Frustratedcanrn, hopefully you won't go through such a big headache like I am going through. I'll be glad to help you if you have any questions, since by next year hopefully i'll be here working already.

Silverdragon102, BSN

Has 32 years experience. Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Guess you didn't get anything sorted then, if she has done it with others then she should have an idea what to do. I think I would suggest looking for another hospital

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Guess you didn't get anything sorted then, if she has done it with others then she should have an idea what to do. I think I would suggest looking for another hospital

It seems to me she's only dealt with nurses that came through an agency. She only has a letter for an extension of a job on TN visa. I spoke with the manager today, she happened to come from the same province as I did and she says she'll look into it. I have already started looking at a different hospital today. I can't deal with that lady yelling at me.

If you do a search on this forum, you will find a link to a copy of what needs to be in the actual letter that the hospital gives you. And it is their responsiblilty to provide the letter for you, not you having to write it.

This person also needs to be reported for not knowing her job at all and the way that she talked to you. That is completely outrageous.

And if she would have known what is involved with working in the US for a foreign nurse she would have known that one cannot get a SSN# without having a visa to work in the US. You need the letter to get the TN Visa to be able to go to the SSA office to apply for the SSN#.

I would most definitely have a talk with her manager, this is a job that she should not be in. Anything having to deal with the public is not for her.

Sorry, but I do not have patience for people that do not knw their own job and are expecting you to take care of things for them. There is also no reason in the world why you need to pay an immigration attorney to take care of this for you.

At least you got a job I am still looking for one. I just moved here from Texas I have my temp. rn license. I dont know whats going on but I would love to start working after years of school.

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

If you do a search on this forum, you will find a link to a copy of what needs to be in the actual letter that the hospital gives you. And it is their responsiblilty to provide the letter for you, not you having to write it.

This person also needs to be reported for not knowing her job at all and the way that she talked to you. That is completely outrageous.

And if she would have known what is involved with working in the US for a foreign nurse she would have known that one cannot get a SSN# without having a visa to work in the US. You need the letter to get the TN Visa to be able to go to the SSA office to apply for the SSN#.

I would most definitely have a talk with her manager, this is a job that she should not be in. Anything having to deal with the public is not for her.

Sorry, but I do not have patience for people that do not knw their own job and are expecting you to take care of things for them. There is also no reason in the world why you need to pay an immigration attorney to take care of this for you.

Thanks Suzanne! I will look that up. I really was unimpressed and surprised she had no clue what she was doing, you think they'd hire ppl who are qualified to do their job. There a a bunch of listings for jobs, but i'm starting to think the problem is with the HR. After I spoke with the manager today, she wanted me to email her in detail what happened today and to express how upset I was. It makes me feel better that at least management doesn't treat you like they don't care. I really do like the hospital. And I couldn't believe I just sat there taking in all that.

I knew this website would be a great source of information, luckily I didn't go spend thousands of dollars just to find out the same info you guys are telling me. Thanx everyone!

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

At least you got a job I am still looking for one. I just moved here from Texas I have my temp. rn license. I dont know whats going on but I would love to start working after years of school.

Well, it seems like I got the job, but not quite with all this going on. I started calling around different hospitals today, and apparently St. Rose is having a job fair on the 24th. you should look it up. maybe it'll be helpful.

Thanks for the advice I will do that. I got a temp job at a flushot clinic so I am wondering how it will work out. I still need a permanent job though. I live by cennt. hills hosp. and they are not hiring any new grads.

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Hi Everyone!

So after much headache I did manage to get the hospital to give me a TN letter (the recruiter still insisted i needed a lawyer and this shall never happen ever again...boo to her). I crossed the border on Monday September 22nd and went straight to the social security administration and applied for a SSN. And to my surprise, it will take up to 4 weeks for them to verify everything and issue me a social security number. I didn't think it would take that long :( . So I'm sitting here with no work because I wouldn't be able to get my license endorsed without a SSN. It's going to be a lonnnnnng process. Hopefully I won't starve to death.

Thought I'd give an update for those who are wondering how it works.

Glad to hear that you got thru everything. Do not think that it will be that long for you to get the SSN#. From everyone else, it has been taking between ten days and two weeks.

And hopefully they will do something with that HR person. They can make it ugly for some for no apparent reason. Unfortunately, you are not the only one that has come across someone like this that did not know a thing about the TN Visa or anything else to do with immigration for that matter.

Please keep us posted on how things work out for you.

bscn_rn_10_years

Has 10 years experience.

OMG that is so horrible....that is so sad that someone would talk to another person in such a way. You should make mention of this whole incident to your unit manager...at least that is what I would do. You can't keep that stuff inside it will just eat away at you. And to think that that person is an an "administrative assistant "and not a "professional" and probably has no training in such. That is the only reason someone would react like that. I was told that you need the letter from the employer for a ssn this letter also allows you to get your green card, so I am unsure why she freaked out. This information came from a lawyer....and they should be wiling to give you that letter otherwise I would be a little leary why they wouldn't want too. OH hang in there and know I am behind you all the way.

Hugs

bscn_rn_10_years

Has 10 years experience.

Oh my I just looked at the dates of these postings...I should apologize I have not been on here for a long time. I sure hope everything is working out for you. Email me or send me message and let me know how you are doing.

EFAN

Specializes in Gyne Surger/Oncology.

Hey Everyone! I haven't been on here for awhile and thought I'd go on and read up on some of the threads. I didn't last long in that job I got in Vegas, too crazy! I moved back to Canada. Now I am working in PICU. Hopefully I'll move back to Vegas in a few years but working in a different area of nursing compared to what I did when i was down there.

C0252786

Has 1 years experience. Specializes in med/surg.

I am sorry that you had to go through this process. You are absolutely right, and this recruiter does not know how to do her job. She absolutely needs to provide a TN letter for you, then you can get a SSN. I am going through a similar process where the recruiter doesn't have all her facts down. If the manager cannot help you, then apply to another hospital that actually knows what they are doing. Good luck.

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