CA NCLEX applicants with "concurrent" issues with CA licensed RN classmates.

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if the b & p code section 2736 is their basis of denying our application, i wonder why other applicants from the philippines who went through the same curriculum like ours were made eligible.

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very true.

i understand that these requirements have been existent and that it's only now that the ca-bon is being strict about it. however, this is just my two cents about this.. i hope i don't sound too negative. this is not to complain. i am just being logical about this issue.

after deciding that they (ca-brn) will strictly implement these requirements compared to how they handled applications in the past years, ca-brn should do so with consistency.

for those are going to apply for ca nclex, they will have to comply with all the requirements. fair enough.

for those who have been found eligible to test with active files and are merely re-testing, i believe that they should be allowed to take the test. otherwise, ca-brn should pull out or invalidate the licenses of all those who passed the ca nclex-rn with deficient requirements. by this, i mean all your classmates who graduated in the same school, took up the same subjects & clinicals, had the same course curriculum, graduated the same year. i am saying this not to bring down these people, but in the light of consistency and impartiality. again, ca-brn is saying that these requirements have been existent a long time ago, but they are being strict about it just now. that's an acceptable explanation. i believe that their rules are their rules and they are not for me to question. however, this "recent decision to be strict" with the requirements does not change the fact that the person i sat with in class, the person i went with during my clinicals, who graduated the same time as i did, who took up the same subjects & clinicals as i did, who went to the same school at the time that i did does not qualify for ca-brn's requirements just as i am not, right? and them passing the ca nclex does not change this fact. so, why deny someone who has the same credentials with active files the chance to re-test?

i believe that this issue has to be resolved by an authority higher than the evaluators/analysts. if the ca brn directors can't be impartial about this, i think this has to be escalated to a higher authority. i'll work on this. if you have any helpful ideas, pls. post them here or send me a ym @[email protected]. thank you.

The question is, how do they rectify the discrepancies between the licensed RNs vs those who are now ineligible to take the test (despite having the same credentials)?

I think you'll soon find this answer as "Santo Nino" mentioned in his thread about the discussion on-going with possibility of the CA BON that upon a nurse's renewal comes up, they will review that applicant's transcripts again and be looking for full compliance with the concurrency issues. This will affect those applying for the 2nd time renewal (not the first-time renewal, first-timers can just pay the fee without re-inspection).

With CA BON screening the incoming renewals they can better control the flow of paperwork rather than use a shotgun blast of looking at everyone all at once.

If you read "Santo Nino" thread, it seems like this person had some insight to the CA BON.

You can also find all the meeting minutes of the various CA BON events and their discussions as it's all public domain and anyone can review and print them out via on-line, it's all there. I do recall something somewhere about the 2004 year as the beginning year for reviews and those prior to the year 2004 frame, may be "grandfathered" (unaffected), should the CA BON actually pass such rulings.

I think what has happened that under the CA BON investigation of nurses that have had complaints filed against them were finding out that some of the overseas nurses are found to have submitted false documents, which had resulted in that nurses questionable nursing practices otherwise why would there have been a complaint filed in the first place?

Board of Registered Nursing - What is the Enforcement Program?

As you can go thru the above site, you'll find the actual complaints filed, the court case, etc.....pretty serious. Some with the false documents are getting fined under "fraud offenses".

This is possible, but 2 of my brothers (they both abandoned their US dream and are both happy RNs in Australia now), did not falsify any documents at all. Nor did I falsify mine. My brothers both passed the CA NCLEX in one take in 2009, both weren't able to satisfy the SSN requirement so they tried their luck in Australia. I was made eligible and allowed to sit for an exam in 2010, but I did not falsify any records.

I know that you and any of your family members are very honest and hard working human beings, thank God for that. It's the small percentage that did things that could only be labeled as "dishonest", "greedy", "selfish", "backstabber" etc. that started to bring light to the CA BON's eyes. I am referring to those buying their license to get ahead instead of playing the game the right way.

It's too bad your brothers didn't find a state that didn't require the SS# requirements to have worked here. But good to hear that where they are now they are happy now and that's what counts.

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