BSN VS MSN

Nursing Students Pre-Nursing

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Hello everyone,

Today is the day start the "real" journey on becoming the nurse. I found about this forum and I hope I could get something answered for me since I am new here.

I am currently an undergraduate who is soon graduating on Spring; with a double-degree in Biomedical Science and Spanish. I finally figured what I want to do for the rest of my life and it really is to become a nurse. The problem is that I will graduate with these majors and no with Bachelor's in Nursing. (I wish pursued Nursing at the beginning but hey; things happen for a reason).

I have done some research and I know I have a couple of options but I would really like everyone's opinion on what's the best for me. I am sure that I am no the only one on this situation and it will help others.

Pathways:

1) Apply for an accelerated nursing program. I am considering on doing this because it is the fastest way to get your BSN and it's technically designed for people who are under my situation. The problem is that I don't think I would satisfy their requirements due that there's a big amount of applicants (High GPA competition), I can afford only afford to go some schools, and also there is different amount of pre-requisites that I won't have by the time I graduate (I do have the main pre-reqs done because of my bio major). So I am very limited to my choices. Don't get me wrong; I can apply but my chances are minimal.

2) Apply for a Master's Science Nursing Program there are some programs designed for individuals who are not nurses but have another bachelors degree in another area like me. Some of these programs prepare you to be a specialist (CNS, NP, etc). Others prepare you to be a generalist RN (Clinical Nurse Leader). When finish this Master's you take the NCLEX exam to become a RN. But my ultimate goal is to become a CRNA.

However, I am still a little confused on how this works. If my ultimate goal is to become a CRNA - the requirements like many of you know mainly are:

  • Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN)
  • Registered Nursing License.
  • 1-2 years Critical Care / ICU experience.

Assuming I get my MSN and pass my RN licensing examination - could I still pursue becoming an CRNA?

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Accelerated BSN

Pros:

Fastest way to get your RN ~13 months

Obtain a bachelors degree in Nursing

Cons:

Limited space program

Low chance to get in

MSN

Pros:

You obtain a Master's degree in Nursing.

Prepare you to become a specialist in certain areas.

Cons:

~2 years to complete program to become an RN

I want to know what you guys think and what would probably be the best to do in my situation. I apologize for the long post - but hopefully this would answer some questions for everyone as well.

Many thanks

Your end goal is to be a CRNA. Getting an MSN right of the bat will not help you achieve this goal. The only way to become a CRNA, at the present time, is to have a BSN and ICU experience.

Here is how you accomplish your goal:

1. Get into an accelerated BSN program at a reputable school. Some schools consolidate this into as little as 15 months.

2. Complete the program and pass the NCLEX

3. Get a job in an ICU. There are so many CRNA programs that it doesn't really matter what ICU you work in, as long as you can put it on your CV/Resume.

4. While you get your year or two of experience, study for the GRE. The GRE is required for most competitive CRNA programs.

5. Get a strong score on the GRE. Apply to CRNA schools.

6. Flexibility in where you want to live will improve your acceptance chances and abbreviate this process.

Best of Luck! Becoming a CRNA is a very achievable goal in nursing and an in-demand job.

Candid advice: Do you only want to be a nurse to be a CRNA? If so, reflect on this career choice. You will, at the very minimum, have to work as a bedside nurse for a year. New grad nurses rarely get jobs in true ICUs upon graduation. You may have to work on a telemetry unit before transferring to an ICU. This could take years. Just consider what you are getting yourself into before you dive head first into this field. Yes, CRNA is a high paying job, but it is a 5 year hypothetical future for many. Staff nursing can be soul crushing work at many facilities.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I don't have a BSN - I have a bachelor's in chemistry & biology, a generalist MSN degree (like you mentioned above), 4 years ICU experience, and am now halfway done with CRNA school. If I could go back, I'd have done the accelerated BSN - wayyyy cheaper than my master's program. What drew me to the master's program was that they said many classes would transfer if I decided to pursue advanced practice nursing. Turns out, only a couple classes (stats, epidemiology) transferred over to my CRNA program (so not worth the extra money).

Trust me - you want to graduate with as little debt as possible. Do the accelerated bachelors, work for @ least 2 years (SICU or CVICU), pay back loans for your BSN, and set aside some money for crna school. Loans are available but interest is pretty high, and starts accruing while you're in school. By the time you would start CRNA school, the majority of schools will have transitioned to a doctorate program (another useless waste of money) and it'll be quite expensive.

Specializes in Critical Care.

Also.. when you said you figured out what you want to do for the rest of your life and you said be a nurse, really what you meant was be a CRNA.

Not saying you will, but please don't go through school and work as a nurse just to check off the boxes for your application. Be the best ICU nurse that you can. Understand the physiology and pathophysiology of what is going on with your patients. Know pharm like the back of your hand. There are a lot of crappy nurses that look good on paper because they have the amt of experience required.. guess what - they become ****** srnas and make the entire profession look bad.

If you think your GPA isn't competitive enough for an ABSN program, why do you think it will be for a Masters program? Aren't the requirements as tough (if not more)? The program here is a minimum 2.5 GPA for BSN and a 3.0 for the MSN program.

Specializes in Critical Care, Education.

Truth? The likelihood of actually obtaining an advanced (specialist) job with no nursing experience is very very small. I have no idea who is hiring entry-level NPs, but it's not my organization (we employ a lot of NPs) or any other that I know of. You cannot work in an advanced practice role until you have mastered basic nursing practice. There are always exceptions - I do know of one entry-level NP in Houston who had been an ICU-based respiratory therapist - she was hired by a large pulmonology practice with whom she had worked during her hospital job.

Entry level, newly licensed nurses are only qualified for entry-level jobs. An increasing number of organizations: 1) are only hiring BSN grads & 2) ONLY hire via their formal residency programs because this is the only way to ensure a successful transition from student to practicing nurse.

If I had a few coins for every nursing student who declared their intention to become a CRNA.... I'd certainly have enough for a pretty big shopping spree at Neimans. Although this is an admirable goal (with a high income), it also takes a LOT of talent and effort to get there.... along with some luck. Admission requires ICU nursing experience (usually 2 years) and a stellar GPA. I don't know of anyone who was able to continue to work while in CRNA school clinicals due to the scheduling demands - this can rack up a significant student loan debt if you're self supporting. I'd also recommend a deeper exploration of CRNA practice before you make any sort of commitment .. heck, you may discover that you can't abide working in a perioperative setting.

Wishing you the best of luck on your continuing educational journey

Refreshingly accurate portrayal of the ICU and SRNA scene.

I feel like bio, psych, and chem majors are basically pre-CRNA majors at this point. So many people flock to abbreviated nursing programs with the sole ambition of becoming a CRNA, scoffing at staff nursing and think it will be a seamless progression to reach their end-goal.

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