BSN-DNS anesthesia

manusko · Jan 25, 2014

Hello i am an Early college High School student I am starting my rode to become a nurse. so my plan is to get my bachelors at UT and work for 2-3 years and go back to school to a BSN-DNP program to become a Nurse Anesthetist. However i did have a few questions what is a good standing GPA to get into nursing school at all? What is the difference with getting an MSN in Anesthesia and a DNP in Anesthesia? Do you get the title Doctor if you get a DNP although you are still a nurse? [/quote']
Keep GPA as high as possible. Difference between MSN and DNP is about 8 months. Some difference in research but otherwise same pay. Title doctor yes but usually in academic setting. Still debate over whether it is confusing to PTs. Yes you are always a nurse and maintain your state RN regardless of your advance practice degree unless switching professions.

Ultraposh · Jan 26, 2014

My gpa didnt have to be competitive so I honestly dont know about that part(Did the first year of LPN my senior year in High school and second year post high school we were guaranteed a spot if we had at least a 'C" and for RN i decided to do the online path so it wasnt competitive getting in). I can tell you what I found out about most CRNA programs. You have some but its important to know now because your gpa will matter the most. CRNA schools prefer a 3.5 or higher and scrutinize the science classes closely. So don't slack on the sciences. Even if they say they accept as low as a 3.0 gpa for post secondary school, most of their students picked will have a 3.5 or higher. Some CRNA schools require a 3.5 gpa. How well you do at your interview/ excel in sciences may work in your favor if your gpa is closer on the lower side of the scale. I hope you aim for the highest! Also SICU is the best ICU experience to get. Be mindful of PACU, ER, OR NICU and PICU. Many programs don't meet the critical care requirement while others do and some only accept it in adition to SICU, MICU and Cardiac ICU for example. CCRN certification is also best to obtain prior to applying.

manusko · Jan 26, 2014

My gpa didnt have to be competitive so I honestly dont know about that part(Did the first year of LPN my senior year in High school and second year post high school we were guaranteed a spot if we had at least a 'C" and for RN i decided to do the online path so it wasnt competitive getting in). I can tell you what I found out about most CRNA programs. You have some but its important to know now because your gpa will matter the most. CRNA schools prefer a 3.5 or higher and scrutinize the science classes closely. So don't slack on the sciences. Even if they say they accept as low as a 3.0 gpa for post secondary school most of their students picked will have a 3.5 or higher. Some CRNA schools require a 3.5 gpa. How well you do at your interview/ excel in sciences may work in your favor if your gpa is closer on the lower side of the scale. I hope you aim for the highest! Also SICU is the best ICU experience to get. Be mindful of PACU, ER, OR NICU and PICU. Many programs don't meet the critical care requirement while others do and some only accept it in adition to SICU, MICU and Cardiac ICU for example. CCRN certification is also best to obtain prior to applying.[/quote']
The further you go through school, the more your GPA will matter more and more. It's like building a strong foundation. Yes you can get into some nursing schools with C's and absolutely graduate nursing school with a 2.0 but this is also won't allow you to go to anesthesia school.

Ultraposh · Jan 26, 2014

The further you go through school, the more your GPA will matter more and more. It's like building a strong foundation. Yes you can get into some nursing schools with C's and absolutely graduate nursing school with a 2.0 but this is also won't allow you to go to anesthesia school.

Hi morificeko It looks like you think I said "C"s are okay. That is not what I said. I actually explained how I had a special program in high school where it was okay to have "C"s to get to level 2 of LPN school. I was saying that I couldn't give advice on the gpa required for nursing school because I don't know and I don't know because I didn't go the typical route. I thought I made it clear in my post that gpa is important. I always cared about my gpa. I graduated High school with a 3. something and I graduated nursing school with a 3.5 gpa. I am aware what is necessary for anesthesia school.

Ultraposh · Jan 26, 2014

All Doctors of Nursing Practice are not only called Doctor in academic setting

States that specifically prohibit DNP's from using the title "Doctor" with your patients (Arkansas, Connecticut, Maine, Oklahoma, Oregon)

States that require you to clarify that you are not a physician (New York, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, and Virginia)

I believe its Canada that prohibits this all together not sure if anythings changed in the last 5 years

manusko · Jan 26, 2014

All Doctors of Nursing Practice are not only called Doctor in academic setting States that specifically prohibit DNP's from using the title "Doctor" with your patients (Arkansas Connecticut, Maine, Oklahoma, Oregon) States that require you to clarify that you are not a physician (New York, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, and Virginia) I believe its Canada that prohibits this all together not sure if anythings changed in the last 5 years[/quote']
The statement I made about how they are usually in the academic setting was made based on experience from I have seen. This was not made as a statement of what is legal and not legal. I work with DNP CRNAs and try prefer not to use the title Dr.
At your facility how do the DNP CRNAs and physicians feel about the CRNAs calling themselves Dr?

fionapink12345 · Jan 26, 2014

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allnurses Guide · Jan 26, 2014

I chose to call myself by first name when introducing myself to patients or my military rank and name on base instead of using the title Doctor. There are no stipulations that I cannot use the title Doctor in my state or work settings. I worry more about bruising the physicians egos then any real problem/confusion with patients. In a few more years when the DNP is common place among APRNs we will see how this scenario continues to play out. I think everyone should introduce themselves appropriately to patients wit name and full job title i.e. Hi I am Doctor X I will be your Anesthesiologist/Cardiologist/Surgeon/Surgical Resident etc. How many times do physicians walk in a room say I am Doctor X and never identify their specialty leaving the patient confused to who they are to later just ask the nurses who that physician was and what they were doing there.

allnurses Guide · Jan 26, 2014

All Doctors of Nursing Practice are not only called Doctor in academic setting
States that specifically prohibit DNP's from using the title "Doctor" with your patients (Arkansas, Connecticut, Maine, Oklahoma, Oregon)
States that require you to clarify that you are not a physician (New York, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, and Virginia)
I believe its Canada that prohibits this all together not sure if anythings changed in the last 5 years

And no not all DNP/DNAPs choose to only use the title Doctor in the academic setting.

manusko · Jan 26, 2014

And no not all DNP/DNAPs choose to only use the title Doctor in the academic setting.

Do you think it is more acceptable in a clinic setting like for an FNP who sees their own PTs for every visit? Or the same may go for a CRNA in a pain clinic for example.

allnurses Guide · Jan 26, 2014

Do you think it is more acceptable in a clinic setting like for an FNP who sees their own PTs for every visit? Or the same may go for a CRNA in a pain clinic for example.

I think if you have earned the degree and want to be called doctor then there is nothing wrong with it. No one is being harmed by stating, Hi I am Doctor X your nurse. Maybe a couple physician egos might be bruised, but that is going to happen anyways.