Baker College

U.S.A. Michigan

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Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find the prerequisites for Baker College.

Thanks.

THEY NEVER HAD ACCREDITATION (Clinton Township). EVER. It's not like they lost it, they have never been able to get it in the first place. They are always "in the process," but thats because they keep getting denied.

Wayne State is CCNE accredited (Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education), not NLNAC. U of D has HLC accreditation (Higher Learning Commission) ... But Davenport was definitely a better choice than Baker.

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

I was thinking the something similar, NLN accreditation is superfluous if you are accredited through HLC or AACN-CCNE because you also run an MSN program (like UDM and OU).

As I understand it, NLN accreditation is more for schools running undergrad programs, while CCNE especially is for schools running graduate programs and would affectively subsume the undergrad programs as well.

I was not aware that Baker never had accreditation.

But I already feel like I am undermining choices made by people who have decided to go to Baker CT by even being here, so I apologize and wish you all the very best in your academic and career endeavors.

ETA: According to their website UDM is NLN accredited

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I was thinking the something similar, NLN accreditation is superfluous if you are accredited through HLC or AACN-CCNE because you also run an MSN program (like UDM and OU).

As I understand it, NLN accreditation is more for schools running undergrad programs, while CCNE especially is for schools running graduate programs and would affectively subsume the undergrad programs as well.

I was not aware that Baker never had accreditation.

But I already feel like I am undermining choices made by people who have decided to go to Baker CT by even being here, so I apologize and wish you all the very best in your academic and career endeavors.

I have looked around before, but decided to do so again. While I do see that only Baker Owosso is listed as pursuing NLNAC accreditation right now, all of Baker College is accredited through HLC and I'm sure they will all get otherwise accredited at some point, but getting accredited is costly, time-consuming, and requires manpower, something many of these smaller campuses do not have, so perhaps that is why they haven't yet all pursued it. When I looked at the CCNE website, it does appear they are more likely to have schools offering BSNs and higher.

Anyhow, these forums are great places for people to gather information about where they might like to go, but while I don't push Baker on anyone, it is a choice, and I have been a full-time student there for the past three years, so all I can give is my thoughts about the school. At the same time, I have never discouraged anyone from going to another school - why would I? :) Anyhow, you should never apologize for posting; you're just having a discussion about the schools, who is accredited, etc. People make up their own minds and should not be 100% influenced by anything they read on a forum anywhere.

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With all due respect (and I really am not here to bash Baker, as far as I know it is an excellent school and I have no idea why they lost their accreditation) it has a lot more to do with than personal preference.

It is true that some hospitals and healthcare providers do not care if you graduated from an NLN accredited school, but the majority do, a quick look at the hiring pages of Detroit area hospitals will confirm this. I do not know of any posted RN positions that do not also have the proviso that the applicant must have graduated from an accredited school of nursing. And the accreditation they are talking about is from the NLN.

Attending an unaccredited school could limit your job opportunities upon graduation, and for the amount that I will be taking on in loans, this is not something I am very comfortable with.

I considered Baker when I was looking at schools but found out that Davenport's tuition and the likelihood of getting in were comparable, so I went with the accredited school.

Baker is accredited through the NCACS, and from my understanding, that's the only credential that is required for employment, with the exception of New York and California, which have different credential requirements.

As far as area hospitals only hiring from an NLN accredited school, I have yet to see that as a requirement--The only requirement I have ever seen was from the NCACS.

I would think that being board certified in your state is enough for gainful employment. I was told that NLN accreditation is like a "feather in your hat". So if you like to fluff up your feathers and that makes you feel good, then by all means...

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Baker is accredited through the NCACS, and from my understanding, that's the only credential that is required for employment, with the exception of New York and California, which have different credential requirements.

As far as area hospitals only hiring from an NLN accredited school, I have yet to see that as a requirement--The only requirement I have ever seen was from the NCACS.

I would think that being board certified in your state is enough for gainful employment. I was told that NLN accreditation is like a "feather in your hat". So if you like to fluff up your feathers and that makes you feel good, then by all means...

First of all, I am very sorry if I offended you. Clearly I have, and since I am not a student at Baker I really shouldn't have even gotten involved in this thread in the first place, so I am sorry for that too and again all the best to you in your education and career.

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First of all, I am very sorry if I offended you. Clearly I have, and since I am not a student at Baker I really shouldn't have even gotten involved in this thread in the first place, so I am sorry for that too and again all the best to you in your education and career.

Thanks. I'm not offended [all that much]. Baker seems to get a bad rap sometimes and I feel the education there is no different than an education at OCC, U of M, Davenport, wherever.

Regarding NLN accreditation: Once I made my phone calls to various hospitals, contacted someone (forgot her name) in Lansing, and spoke with the assistant to the President of Baker college, I felt confident continuing my education at Baker.

I wish people (including myself) would take the time to actually do research instead of just skimming over pertinent information or listening to a non-expert.

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Baker is accredited through the NCACS, and from my understanding, that's the only credential that is required for employment, with the exception of New York and California, which have different credential requirements.

As far as area hospitals only hiring from an NLN accredited school, I have yet to see that as a requirement--The only requirement I have ever seen was from the NCACS.

I would think that being board certified in your state is enough for gainful employment. I was told that NLN accreditation is like a "feather in your hat". So if you like to fluff up your feathers and that makes you feel good, then by all means...

As I've stated in this thread, I'm a long-time Baker student and intend to finish all of my nursing there, including LPN-to-RN and RN-to-BSN online at AH, and I really have no qualms about doing so whatsoever. However, I decided today to have a look through various hospital career sites to see what they require. What I found was that of 11 hospitals I looked at, only 4 had a requirement that you graduated from an accredited nursing school. Of course, it does not say what type of accreditation is required, just that it must be accredited. Doctors, U of M, Providence, Crittenton, Oakwood, POH, and St. Joe's only stated that you have to have a current MI RN license or a similar statement (St. Joe's said accredited or equivalent).

In five weeks, I'm graduating from the PN program and hope to start the LPN-to-RN in the spring, but I have done my clinicals at a couple of the hospitals above and spoke with them and they have no requirement about being accredited and definitely hire from Baker. When I was ready to apply originally, I had a 4.0, so I could have just applied for one of the ADN programs, but I chose this path, Baker, and AH for convenience, as well as the ability to work as an LPN while finishing up the three quarters required for the LPN-to-RN. I don't argue the good or bad of Baker. All I can do is state my experience there, and I've enjoyed being a Baker student. Like any school, it is not perfect, but I like smaller class sizes, individual attention if desired or needed, quarters versus semesters, etc., but people need to figure out for themselves what is right and just take what I and others say with a grain of salt and as just another opinion.

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Thanks. I'm not offended [all that much]. Baker seems to get a bad rap sometimes and I feel the education there is no different than an education at OCC, U of M, Davenport, wherever.

Regarding NLN accreditation: Once I made my phone calls to various hospitals, contacted someone (forgot her name) in Lansing, and spoke with the assistant to the President of Baker college, I felt confident continuing my education at Baker.

I wish people (including myself) would take the time to actually do research instead of just skimming over pertinent information or listening to a non-expert.

Thank you hearsheis, my thoughts exactly!

Talk about opening a can of worms! I was staying out of it, it seems this exact discussion regarding Baker's accreditation surfaces every few months.

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

I am so sorry for bringing this up. You guys should be able to have a conversation about your school without me horning in with questions about accreditation.

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I am so sorry for bringing this up. You guys should be able to have a conversation about your school without me horning in with questions about accreditation.

It's a common subject that comes up about Baker, so this thread just supplies more info about the school. People have to decide for themselves how much that will influence their decision. It wasn't key for me, but it may be for someone else. You asked about it, and there is nothing wrong with that. The OP may appreciate knowing a little more. :)

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I am so sorry for bringing this up. You guys should be able to have a conversation about your school without me horning in with questions about accreditation.

There's no need to apologize you probably had no idea what you were getting yourself into by asking.

And mrsrlg is right, maybe the OP hasn't heard any of this before.

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I appreciated everyone's in put in this discussion that I started. Forums like this is really a great way to gather and share information. Thank you, I don't believe anyone should be offended by anything said, these forums give us a voice that we otherwise would not have. Nursing is hard work and as a Nurse I can tell you support of fellow nurses and other students is a pleasure to have.:nurse:

Accreditation is a factor for me to consider as narrow down my search of nursing schools. But, my reality is....the demand is so high for the nursing student....and because schools have limited seats, I most likely will attend the best program that will except me. I have heard good and bad of all the area nursing programs, I believe no program is perfect.

As far as employment goes, I work for the VA (Veteran Hospital) a Federal Government Facility and plan on retiring there as a RN. I have double checked with recruitment and the VA only requires a Nursing License and Graduation from a State Approved program, which I already knew because I graduated as an LPN from a

non-accredited state approved program from another state. As far as moving out of Michigan, the VA also does not require you to obtain licenses from state to state. You can work at any VA Facility in the US, as long as you hold a licensed from in any state in the US territory. I currently work in Michigan and do not have a Michigan License.

I revisited the Baker's LPN-RN program at AH, it doesn't seem like much of "Bridge" program and I noticed it requires more credits then the regular ADN program. (Not sure what that is all about) ? Maybe someone here has more details about it and it's benefit.

Could someone explain to me Quarters vs Semesters? Someone in this discussion expressed that she preferred quarters vs semesters.

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