an article about the upcoming seiu and chp union vote.
[color=firebrick]because chp rns deserve a professional union...
[color=firebrick]chp's scheme to force you into the service employees union:
protect the rights of rns!
chp has adopted a strategy to silence rns and deny you a democratic choice. chp has signed an illegal back room deal with the service employees union (seiu) intended to force rns into this non-rn union.
the elections scheduled for march 12-14 will not give you a choice of a professional nurses union. the largest professional nurses union in the country, the national nurses organizing committee (nnoc) ohio, afl-cio is not on the ballot.
the only union chp is letting you vote for is the union hand-picked by catholic healthcare partners, the non-rn service employees union. millions of ohioans had a choice of presidential candidates to vote for
on march 4.
why shouldn't ohio rns have a choice of which union you want to represent you?
chp rns deserve a real choice.
chp rns deserve to decide for yourselves what union you want to represent you, not have your union hand-picked by your employer. why should the hospital choose your union?
chp rns deserve to be part of a professional rn union, not a service employees union.
the nnoc is the largest professional nurses union in the country, with 80,000 rns in 50 states including ohio, with rn contracts that include the highest rn salaries and best staffing protections in the nation. nnoc won the nation's first rn-to-patient safe staffing ratios in california.
vote "no" so you can have a choice.
because there will not be a choice on the ballot march 12-14, rns should vote "no" to protect your right to choose a professional nurses union like the nnoc-ohio.
vote "no" to a union picked by management, not rns.
vote "no" to protect the rights of rns.
vote "no" to an inferior union contract that sells out rns.
Here is something from the New York Times on the bote being cancelled:
Dave Regan, president of a service employees' local representing 35,000 health care workers in Ohio, West Virginia and Kentucky, called the nurses union's efforts immoral and despicable.
"Their conduct is indistinguishable from that of the most vicious anti-union employers," Mr. Regan said. "It violates every principle of unionism. Real people are worse off today as a result of their behavior." >
an article about the upcoming seiu and chp union vote.
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vote "no" so you can have a choice.because there will not be a choice on the ballot march 12-14, rns should vote "no" to protect your right to choose a professional nurses union like the nnoc-ohio.
vote "no" to a union picked by management, not rns.
vote "no" to protect the rights of rns.
vote "no" to an inferior union contract that sells out rns.
this looks really anti union. is this a cna press release? disturbing. wouldn't a no vote have resulted in no union, not the cna? i think it must be illegal for a union to say this kind of thing (which is at the least confusing and misleading) so close to a vote.
Apologize for the namecalling. I was in a union drive at my hospital years ago that did not go through. Just so sorry for these nurses who don't have a union now.
As an RN at an Ohio Catholic Health Partners hospital, I have been aware of SEIU's attempts over the past 3 years to unionize and CHP has fought the union every step of the way, including mandatory films we had to sit through telling us why we didn't need a union. According to the newspapers, there was a class action lawsuit by CHP employees....aided by SEIU...who were denied lunch breaks and other such oversights. They apparently won some type of settlement against CHP and an agreement to allow a union vote was reached.
I am aware of no efforts by any other union to organize the employees in my hospital so it came as a total shock to find these California people invading our hospitals, getting their literature into locked lounges, and onto floors they should not have been on.....just days before the election.
Since when has a democratic vote for a union ever been considered imposing a union on employees?! The votes could have gone either way. What they have done is deny us any vote at all....a huge disappointment to those of us who don't like being totally at the mercy of management and how they want to interpret their polices, to which we have no input. I don't know how this California group could possibly get any more unprofessional. I would rather have NO union than to ever see them representing me."
The more I read about what CNA did at these hospitals the more I am shocked that they seem proud instead of incredibly apologetic. This is not the way to unite nurses in our country.
Since when has a democratic vote for a union ever been considered imposing a union on employees?! .
This is why we were there. Because imposing a chosen union on employees as of right now is illegal. It was banned in the 30's. This is an attempt to bring back that process and it undermines the purpose of union democracy.
Workers should protest such an imposition of will by their employer. The Ohio Nurses Association agrees as does NYSNA. This is why they assisted NNOC Ohio in it's mission to expose this election. NYSNA collected signatures and sent letters to the council of bishops as did NNOC - more than 4,000 nurses around the country sent these letters on behalf of employees at CHP Ohio hospitals.
they make a really good point. if this was illegal, why doesn't the cna bring any evidence or sue the other union? by the way, rn power, you were actually there???? i can't believe you participated in this!!!!
I'm sure the hospital did not want SEIU or any union there. The reason employers make agreements is to prevent them form having to wage an expensive antiunion campaighn. In this case the CNA helped them by disrupting the vote. Now there is no union in their hospital. Who really won here, SEIU, CNA the employees? No the employer won and didn't have to spend a dime. They still can dictate staffing and everything else concerned with the operation of those hospitals and the patient care provided in them.
I work at an SEIU facilty owned by a Catholic chain. We are currently negotiating our third contract. We have a proffesional union. Our local consist of 7000 very professional RN's.
I don't mind CNA giving RN's a choice. But do it in a way that is fair and in a way that ensurses the end result is a union and a voice for the nurses.
I read the quote from Samantha RN. SEIU was not hand picked The vote was not called off because of none support, but was called off because of the interruption of patient care caused by the NNOC/CNA. The NNOC says 'SEIU was forced to cancel rigged election after protests by RNs and other employees.' Not true!! The cancellation of the election is not a huge blow to SEIU or CHP. We will have our election later. It has only been postponed. So NNOC/CNA stay in california. The nurses in OHIO believe in professionalism and empowering their nurses to make decision, not being bullied.
I once worked at a wonderful Catholic hospital. I gave my resignation notice when Tenet was buying our hospital.
Soon SEIU did the same thing.
Only a couple of my former colleagues even voted. They voted "yes" because of a promised pay increased.
Now the hospital is closed.
If you work at one of the facilities please find out all you can and VOTE!
Perhaps RN Power Ohio can answer. I think the vore is a majority of those who vote.
If so it is VERY important to go vote!
I would NEVER be part of a partnership.
Management has the power as they do now.
With a partnership you don't really have a union.
I am an SEIU member and proud that our union is not choosing some elitist/isolationist tactic to recruit members. We are nurses and we provide a service-we do not manufacture a product. Most workers-of which we represent just one of many types in the U.S. provide a service not a product. As a woman, a lesbian and latina I am proud to be part of a union that is bringing workers of all faces, classes, geography together. I am proud to stand with the rest of my coworkers-brothers and sisters- in other job classifications who are also represented by SEIU and am proud to march with janitors, security guards, social workers, pharmacists, and doctors who are also our members in their struggles to win what they deserve.
It seems to me that it's CNA members who don't have a voice as the structure of the organization unilaterally gives the ED the most power w/out any true local structure.
I encourage all workers to form a union-we are our union-so to say anything bad about a union can only be interpreted as saying something bad about the people who are the members. The members make the union what it is and nothing is perfect, but at least we all have some say in what happens.
There are plenty of unorganized healthcare workers out there that all need to be forming a union with whichever union they choose.
I believe Kaiser has a partnership with all unions representing its workers except the CNA-it's not just SEIU members that believe partnerships can be productive and whose members reap the rewards of such partnerships. So are the CNA supporters now bashing all unions and their members?
CNA is just helping the boss win by deflecting the primary issue at hand-workers are better off when they form unions. They are also causing the unnecessary expenditure of SEIU's members dues money and their own members dues money. How much does it cost to send CNA staff to raid SEIU's bargaining units? and what is the point when there are so many unorganized nurses out there still?
It's interesting how on one hand I see nurses here and on other forums talking about the emotional part of nursing, the touchy feely part of nursing-yet at the same time demand on being referred to as professional-...The term "professional" is a management term that creates division rather than bringing people together. We are all workers providing a service that we expect fair and just compensation and benefits for providing. Getting stuck on labels and semantics as a divisive tactic is just buying into what the "boss" wants.
Good to have something factual to refer to.
pickledpepperRN
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Why won't they have a vote?
Why didn't the union insist on it?