ClearBlueOctoberSky 370 Posts Mar 7, 2014 Needs to be swallowedOne trick with po tab Ativan is to get it ordered SL, crush and mix in a bit of water. Administer under the tongue with a medicine syringe. It will absorb, or go the easy route and just have the doc order the liquid SL Ativan.
chillin4me 526 Posts Specializes in Hospice. Has 3 years experience. Mar 7, 2014 Thanks for all the info, this will greatly help me more as i am ending my job in LTC and start a new job in Hospice House.(2mg/2ml of roxanol)
kbrn2002, ADN, RN 3,765 Posts Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis. Has 21 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 During the active dying process [which can be as short as minutes to as long as days] the preferred route remains oral. 1 ml of any liquid med, including crushed meds in a small amount of of water, can be given SL or buccal. Absorption would be similar to Roxanol. The "death rattle" can occasionally be minimized by atropine gtts SL when scopolamine patches are no longer effective, but there are no guarantees. Maybe a silly question, but was that pt comfort cares or hospice? If so I wouldn't have even been checking VS unless the family requested it.
kbrn2002, ADN, RN 3,765 Posts Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis. Has 21 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 Thanks for all the info, this will greatly help me more as i am ending my job in LTC and start a new job in Hospice House.(2mg/2ml of roxanol)Roxanol is 20 mg/ml so 2 ml is a very large dose of 40 mg. I imagine in a pt with opioid resistance this wouldn't be impossible, but I have personally never administered a dose larger than 1 ml [20 mg] q 2 hrs prn
chillin4me 526 Posts Specializes in Hospice. Has 3 years experience. Mar 8, 2014 Hospice.. That's what i thought to coz there's no point of checking there vital signs, but pt tend to have high fever and of course we'll give suppository tylenol
Do-over, ASN, RN 1,085 Posts Specializes in CICU. Mar 8, 2014 Ativan (liquid) is sublingual if pt won't be able to swallow, more common scenario when patient is actively dying.I've done this. Ativan (normally for injection) given sublingual per MD. Worked great.
ChadlyRN 18 Posts Specializes in Critical Care, ER. Has 6+ years experience. Mar 10, 2014 I've never heard of giving oral Ativan. That wasn't good judgement. Unfortunately, when you're orienting your preceptor may not be the best fit. Find a RN you want to mirror your style after.
chillin4me 526 Posts Specializes in Hospice. Has 3 years experience. Mar 11, 2014 Hospice pt usually doesnt have IV
ktliz 379 Posts Specializes in critical care. Mar 11, 2014 You might get a better response in the hospice forum. In the ICU, our patients have IV access, so we use it. Hospice nurses will have more experience with PO or SL administration. Although, I probably would have given morphine instead of Ativan.
chillin4me 526 Posts Specializes in Hospice. Has 3 years experience. Mar 11, 2014 It really depends on the situation on how to manage pain and/or anxiety if pt is in critical conditions. Thanks for all ur info
sugarmagnolia3 82 Posts Has 10 years experience. Mar 12, 2014 I don't understand why IV ativan wasn't given, however maybe you could ask next time, maybe not right then but later...Approach is everything: Start with saying, "I'm just really curious but why....?"
