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ASN VS BSN

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I will be attending a 2 year Nursing school in the fall to get an associates in nursing and take the NCLEX to get my RN certification. One of the nurses at the hospital i volunteer at said that most places (hospitals/nursing homes) are looking for nurses with a BSN. Also, i know experience helps out a lot too. Do you think i would be able to get a job with an associate's degree and possibly only volunteer-work if i cant find a job with more responsibility in the next 2 years. .......Also, any advice for a pre-nurse student (in regards to school/work)?

Feedback is much appreciated.

Thank you.

yedwards42, BSN, MSN

Specializes in Maternal Newborn. Has 7 years experience.

HI ~ I'm unsure which state you live, though here in California (Northern) many job postings "strongly prefer BSN". For me, I'm obtaining my BSN. I think having the BSN (really an MSN) makes you more marketable. I think you will find jobs with an ASN (though may need to look out of your immediate area depending if nursing is saturated). Then, if possible, obtain your BSN at a later time. Good luck to you! :)

I'm in pa. The school im going to is closely associated with a hospital so im hoping that helps......and the fact that im a male may help a tad. Unfortunately, only a 2 yr program is offered. Also, i should of added, i will be graduating this may with a bachlors of science in biology. I hope this helps some but it seems that a Bsn is looked at very highly compared to related bachlors.

zoe92

Has 2 years experience.

I'm in pa. The school im going to is closely associated with a hospital so im hoping that helps......and the fact that im a male may help a tad. Unfortunately' date=' only a 2 yr program is offered. Also, i should of added, i will be graduating this may with a bachlors of science in biology. I hope this helps some but it seems that a Bsn is looked at very highly compared to related bachlors.[/quote']

If you are graduating with a bachelors in biology, why don't you apply to accelerated or second degree bachelors? They are specifically for people who already have a bachelors in something else.

yedwards42, BSN, MSN

Specializes in Maternal Newborn. Has 7 years experience.

Zoe92 makes a good point. I'm going into an accelerated program (ABSN) as I already have my Bachelor's degree also. Your Bachelor's degree will definitely be a plus. I'd try to see about any accelerated programs since you have your Bachelor's degree, as many of these accelerated programs are one years (the program I start next month is). Overall, my suggestion to you is whether you do the ASN or BSN - do well in your program, clinicals and get your name out there. Often times, it's "who you know" and their reference about you. Make excellent impressions and efforts through school. :)

Fireman767

Specializes in Oncology, Critical Care. Has 1 years experience.

I'm also in PA, Im doing my ADN in nursing at Mount Aloysius College and it seems many of the hospitals here will hire ADNs. However, most of them require a BSN within 6 years or so. I will graduate with my ADN and BSN at the same time thanks to having one BS already, and proper planning of classes.

Accelerated degrees have a rep of being extremely difficult.....i had that in mind but somehow didnt follow through. In addition some are very pricey but i guess they would be worth it considering i may need to get a bsn eventually. I'll look around but i think most schools closed their applications.

yedwards42, BSN, MSN

Specializes in Maternal Newborn. Has 7 years experience.

Hi ~ I think nursing school will be difficult - no matter if accelerated or not. Of course, the accelerated version "kicks it up a notch" in a shorter time frame. I'd research schools (very reputable ones) that have accelerated programs. The cost may be high, though having a degree and experience from a well recognized school may get you farther ahead in the competitive world of nursing.

ok so i think the best route is to take an accelerated bsn program since i have a bachlors in bio...the problem is most schools have closed their apps for the fall....i have an idea but it seems kinda crazy let me know what you think. I'm acceptted to an Asn program so i'll do that in the fall and spring. In the summer a bsn program opens at another school so i may try to apply and get in. If i get in, hopefully they accept some credits from the asn. If not, i'll just retake them. If i do not get accepted into the bsn program, i'll stay with the asn. Does this plan seem reasonable? Any other ideas?

Thanks

Fireman767

Specializes in Oncology, Critical Care. Has 1 years experience.

I would strongly check with the BSN about transfering credits. Most often, the credits will not transfer because they are two different types of programs. In addition, if they did take your credits, you would have a gap of about 7 months where you would be not taking classes because there would be a gap. ABSN programs are good if you can get in, but since you will be about a year before even starting, the ADN your already in might be a good idea to consider. It wont take 1 year to complete like the ABSN, but the difference is you wont wait almost a full year to start.

zoe92

Has 2 years experience.

Nope, dont do it. Transferring classes can be very difficult & may not happen. Even if credits transfer, you may be in a specific cohort so you would not really be able to "get ahead", since ABSN make you take +3 classes/semester.

I say just wait until the next ABSN deadline (some have spring options & many have summer options too) OR just do a whole associates degree.

Be patient, young grass hopper. What is the hurry?

Well i want to be able to have a job after getting a degree. If i can't get one with an ASN, i'll be somewhat forced to go back and get a BSN (hence what i'm considering now).

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 41 years experience.

The trend is towards BSN only. The job market is tight like every other job market.......and in some areas of the country, like California, unemployment amongst new grads is 47%. You can do your ASN and do a BSN bridge. Your credits will most likely not transfer becasue schools want the money spent at their school. Since you have a Bachelors in BIO have you also looked into direct entry Masters?

MrsStudentNurse

Has 5 years experience.

What's your goal? Be an RN and stop there? If so, I'd stay with the asn then bridge. If you want to ne advanced it may be wiser to go absn.

I think Esme12 is on to something.... direct entry masters sounds like a great plan.

My goal is yo be an rn, get a job, and after some experience, possibly move up to a np. It already requires some exp to get a masters and some jobs may pay for some of it. Do you mean go into a masters program in nursing? I dont think that is possible w/o prior nursing courses. Also, i keep hearing mixed messages. On one side, people say that the market is bad and finding a job will be hard, on the other people say nurses are always in need and there is a advantage for male nurses. I suppose there is a reason for both.

Fireman767

Specializes in Oncology, Critical Care. Has 1 years experience.

The shortage is in various places of the country, such as california or New York have no shortage and there are 20+ year nurses looking for jobs where as other places like connecticut or Pennsylvania have a shortage and hire ADN or BSN. The direct entry masters programs are generally a 3 year program where the first year you work on your BSN, get your RN and immediately after you get it start the MSN for either Family Nurse Practitioner, Adult Nurse Practitioner, CRNA, etc. Those don't take experience but i have friends who went that route and say its a little tougher to find a job because your very qualified and have no experience. On the otherside, i know people who went that route and became very successful, so its iffy. Theres also an ADN/RN to MSN, in which after you get your ADN or RN you enter a program that grants you your BSN in about 6 months to a year and you do your MSN right after, similar to the Entry level MSN, but you spend the first 2 years in a slower pace, getting your RN.

Theres plenty of options, you just need to decide how fast. Many people rush into the fastest programs, and this leads to people failing out because they weren't prepared for the work or stress level. Most entry-level MSN and ABSN programs strongly recommend students not work during classes, so you need to decide if finances are a factor as well.

AccelCNL, MSN, RN

Specializes in PCU, LTAC, Corrections. Has 5 years experience.

I agree with Fireman above. The program you choose depends on the job market in your area, your finances, and your time commitment. I am actually starting a ABSN program in the fall. I live in the NY tristate area and I am going to a school that is 15 minutes from my home. However, I do know that there is not a shortage in NY ( in the metro area at least , upstate NY is a different story in many areas). I know that I may have to move after graduation but I am ok with that. I do not have any children and I am not married so I am not tied down to a place like some other people. I say do what is best for you. I considered an entry level master program however I got into this program so that is where I will start.

I went for my BSN because I plan on either being a PNP/NNP or a CRNA. So I just counted out any program that did not give me a BSN or higher. Make the right decision for you. If an ASN program works better for you then take that road. Just know that some places will not hire your because you do not have BSN.

I would contact the programs you are interested in and ask about the transfer situation.

I missed the deadline last year and I just waited for the next admissions cycle. Maybe you should do that. Would a year make a true difference? It could give you time to save. Plus you would also maximize the amount fo school you are applying to.