APNA statement

PMHNP10 · Mar 2, 2006

anyone?

sharann, BSN, RN · Mar 2, 2006

I think that it will do wonders to solve our current RN shortage and nurse educator shortage. I guess these people solved all the others problems so they have these to work on now. Bravo

I added this edit: I hope that my sarcastic tone was implied, because I was being very srcastic.Sorry, but it made me mad again to see yet another nursing group trying to make things more difficult for us to get anywhere. You can call it upping the standards or whatever, but I see it as discouraging and pretentious crap the advanced associations try to pull.

Trauma Columnist · Mar 3, 2006

This is just a draft proposal. It will take 10 years to implement (and this is what is stated in the complete proposal). I wouldn't worry about it just yet.

PMHNP10 · Mar 3, 2006

I did pick up on the sarcasm (or preferably, dramatic irony). What I think is interesting is that APNs will not have to work under a doctor, but will be completely autonomous. I personally think this is a good thing, but I suspect many (esp. MDs) won't like it. As much as we talk about dummying down the nursing profession with med techs, etc., the medical profession probably will feel the same way. And I wonder how insurance companies will react? Will NPs, CRNAs, etc. have to pay outlandish malpractice fees like MDs?--I would guess so. Should be interesting.

Trauma Columnist · Mar 3, 2006

APN practice acts are governed by the state in which you practice. In IL for instance, where I live, APNs practice quite autonomously now - we do not require co-signing for orders, scripts, diagnostics, etc. We have a collaborative agreement but it is still a very independent practice.

sharann, BSN, RN · Mar 3, 2006

I did pick up on the sarcasm (or preferably, dramatic irony). What I think is interesting is that APNs will not have to work under a doctor, but will be completely autonomous. I personally think this is a good thing, but I suspect many (esp. MDs) won't like it. As much as we talk about dummying down the nursing profession with med techs, etc., the medical profession probably will feel the same way. And I wonder how insurance companies will react? Will NPs, CRNAs, etc. have to pay outlandish malpractice fees like MDs?--I would guess so. Should be interesting.

Psychrn03,Please take half of what I say with a grain of salt, I am still sick after a week and kind of contrary. I do think that APRN's(which would exclude CNS's without DscN I thinkd) will become scarcer. I also firmly believe that we have not yet adressed the core nursing issues which include entry level(again) and shortages.Who will work at the bedside nursing? Some MSN's do, but not very many.

Traumarus, I am glad that in many states APN's work independently of MD's, I just wonder what happens when they start trying to implement that you all need a Clinical Doctorate degree(I also am opposed to this for many reasons).

This has been very interesting. Again, no one take offense to my sarcastic ramblings earlier, but I did mean it..just said it obnoxiously!

Trauma Columnist · Mar 3, 2006

No offense taken - just some food for thought is all. CNS's will actually be grandfathered into the nurse practitioner arena is my understanding. Believe me, since I am due to graduate in 9 weeks from an adult health CNS, I've been looking into this. Also - in IL (and the NCSBN is here in Chicago), I am very concerned they will try to start this here first. At any rate, this gives us all some interesting info and we must keep abreast of all the new developments.