Anyone have an MSN with no BSN? Problems with this?

[kerussll]

Hi Guys,

I have kind of an unusual degree. I have a MSN in Nursing. The program was entry level, for people who already had a bachelors in an area other than nursing. (I also have a BS in Psychology.) I recently applied for a new job at a magnet hospital. They are telling me that because of their magnet status, they can only hire nurses with a BSN. I really don't understand this reasoning, when I have a degree higher than a BSN. Has anybody had a similar experience? Maybe some of you out there are ADN to MSN degree holders? It's really frustrating because I was actually recommended for this job, met with the hiring manager who seemed really excited about me, and now it seems we are at a dead end. UGh!

[Gentleman_nurse, MSN]

My aunt is a clinical nurse manager at a hospital and she has an input when hiring new staff. She said that many time hospitals will prefer to hire new grad BSN's and opposed to new grad MSN's from an entry level program because they have to train both exactly the same but they will have to pay the MSN more because it is a masters degree. I'm sure every hospital is different but that may be a reason why.

I personally don't have a problem with this if it's transparent. Don't make your requirements vague in the job posting and then throw my application in the garbage.

[Graduatenurse14]

Jul 24 by NY_teach

True but all teachers are required to earn one. Working while taking graduate education classes is distracting for new teachers adjusting to the profession. Penny wise, Pound foolish.

Are all K-12 teachers on NY required to get a Master's now?

I'm in PA and taught in the city school system of both of our big cities. One just this past school year (subbed during my last semester of nursing school) and I was very surprised at how many of the teachers had their Master's. Several were working on PhD's or Principal Certification and/or Curriculum Specialist. They post what schools they've earned their degrees with school emblem/flag. I hope it's motivating the students as it's intended to!

[Gentleman_nurse, MSN]

All teachers are required to earn a Masters in 5 years after getting their initial certification. Most other states have a similar policy. No Child Left Behind nationalized this requirement

[kerussll]

Yep I definitely have an RN license! My program had us taking many similar classes to the BSN group, but with more emphasis on leadership

[kerussll]

I have encountered this issue in Houston myself. However, a bit different, nevertheless, extremely frustrating! Let me explain. I too have a BS in psychology (my first degree) then 6 years ago obtained an ADN and have been a nurse trained in intermediate and critical care. I recently completed an MSN in nursing education and applied for an educator position at a Magnet institution and was actually told I "lacked the foundation for nursing that managers at the facility would like me to have"!!! Oh my word, I can see the difference between saving money and hiring newbie BSN grads over newbie MSN grads, but I can't believe the sheer stupidity of NOT hiring someone with a BS degree (not to mention one in psychology that has all kinds of relevance to education!) an ADN, an MSN and 6 years of experience!! My advice is to look elsewhere to facilities that don't have HR and managers without common sense. Maybe I am missing something though?

I don't think you are missing anything. I think they are just completely lacking common sense! I've moved on from this. I decided that probably isn't even a good place to work if they can't handle something as basic as this!