Anyone heard of any NP to MD programs?

lalaxton · Aug 6, 2002

kitty,

Have not heard of one in the US but there are 2 that I have heard of in the Caribean that are specific to PA's or NP's becoming MD's. I know of a PA who is in the middle of such a program, seems to be doing well and apparently the program is accredited in the US.

npkae1 · Dec 16, 2005

check "Advance for Nurse Practitioners" there is a program, I think it is in Australia. Check web site @ www.oceaniamed.org or call 877-info-oum. gook luck, I would like to do this also.

cgfnp · Dec 16, 2005

A girl I go to school with said that there is a school in Missouri that has a bridge program for NPs to become MDs.
Have any of you heard of a program like this??
Thanks!
Kitty

None in Missouri I know of (unless she's thinking of UMKC's six year BS/MD program where you can apply as an advanced-standing student (someone who already has a BS and healthcare experience can start at the beginning of year 3, but that isn't a short cut as you still have 4 years of med school just like any other school).

cgfnp · Dec 16, 2005

check "Advance for Nurse Practitioners" there is a program, I think it is in Australia. Check web site @ www.oceaniamed.org or call 877-info-oum. gook luck, I would like to do this also.

That website showed that no one gets advanced standing. Only savings would be 5+ yrs healthcare experience = no MCAT needed.

group_theory · Dec 16, 2005

kitty,
Have not heard of one in the US but there are 2 that I have heard of in the Caribean that are specific to PA's or NP's becoming MD's. I know of a PA who is in the middle of such a program, seems to be doing well and apparently the program is accredited in the US.

No program outside the US is accredited. Now the students at these foreign schools may receive federal funding, but true "accreditation" is limited to schools within the borders of the US (and PR) - and only the LCME (for MD) and AOA (for DO) can accredit medical schools in the US. If you go to a medical school outside the US, you will still have to take steps to get certified as a foreign-trained physician (ECFMG) - even if you attend an elite medical school in England or Australia. Exception is Canada where their schools are LCME accredited.

Also, be wary of any programs that give advance standing to nurses, PAs, NPs, chiros, etc. First - will they adequately prepare you for all 3 steps of the USMLE? Second - will you be able to find a residency spot from a less-than-reputable foreign medical school? Third - will the state board of medicine allow you to practice in the state?

Papadoc · Dec 17, 2005

No program outside the US is accredited. Now the students at these foreign schools may receive federal funding, but true "accreditation" is limited to schools within the borders of the US (and PR) - and only the LCME (for MD) and AOA (for DO) can accredit medical schools in the US. If you go to a medical school outside the US, you will still have to take steps to get certified as a foreign-trained physician (ECFMG) - even if you attend an elite medical school in England or Australia. Exception is Canada where their schools are LCME accredited.
Also, be wary of any programs that give advance standing to nurses, PAs, NPs, chiros, etc. First - will they adequately prepare you for all 3 steps of the USMLE? Second - will you be able to find a residency spot from a less-than-reputable foreign medical school? Third - will the state board of medicine allow you to practice in the state?

Amen!

The word of caution is DO NOT look for shortcuts if you want to go to med school. There is one school in Antigua that gives "advanced placements" to chiropractors, and other allied health practitioners. I don't know one person who went that route who is able to practice in US. But there are lots of lagit Caribbean schools with track record, many graduates practicing physicians.

I went to ROSS University with lots of RNs,NPs,PAs,PTs, DCs etc.

Check out http://www.valuemd.com

Kindhearted · Dec 19, 2005

Update! There is a PhD program for nursing that is geared toward clincal nursing and after completing the program the nurse will be recognized as a Dr. of medicine. I believe the program is a pilot program given through Rochester University or Rush University.

Hope this helps!

cgfnp · Dec 19, 2005

Update! There is a PhD program for nursing that is geared toward clincal nursing and after completing the program the nurse will be recognized as a Dr. of medicine. I believe the program is a pilot program given through Rochester University or Rush University.
Hope this helps!

You're kidding me?!?! This is going to raise all kinds of hell. The training isn't even close to the same. I suppose once residency is over it doesn't matter but I guarantee the nursing PhDs are going to be looking a whole lot of stuff up during residency if this actually happens.

lalaxton · Dec 20, 2005

Update! There is a PhD program for nursing that is geared toward clincal nursing and after completing the program the nurse will be recognized as a Dr. of medicine. I believe the program is a pilot program given through Rochester University or Rush University.
Hope this helps!

You are probably thinking of the DNS or Doctor of Nursing Science program that will give you the title of "Dr." but you will not be an MD or Dr. of medicine. It is more of a clinical doctorate but there is no other way to be an MD than to go to med school.

Kindhearted · Dec 21, 2005

yeah this is it. sorry to scare you. hahaha

rush university

doctor of nursing science (dnsc) program

printer friendly pdf admission guidelines

the doctor of nursing science (dnsc) graduate is prepared as a nurse scientist with the investigative skills of a researcher and the clinical and leadership skills necessary to influence the health care system.

online but hands on

the dnsc program has been developed so that students maintain continuous online progress throughout the year and focus on discourse, debate and integration of ideas through yearly campus visits. students benefit from innovative teaching and mentoring strategies, multiple methods of curriculum delivery matched to course objectives and a faculty comittment to prepare students for a career in clinical research and academia.

daver3 · Jan 8, 2006

There are new Doctor of Nursing Practice programs available at Colombia, Rutgers, and others including U of Arizona, these may be required in the future to act in the old NP role mostly due to our CNS nurse leaders who feel the NP role is not true to nursing. Please excuse my editorial comment.