ANP 101 - Online - Lawrence- HELP!!

anomaly · Nov 15, 2009

Missy,

With online APHY 101 and 102, you only have to go to campus twice, and this is to take proctored exams. Typically, there are four exams throughout the semester, the first exam is over ~ the first 3 weeks of the class, the midterm is cumulative from the beginning of the semester, the third exam is similar to the first, and the final is cumulative. All of your labs are online and do not require you to go to campus.

The course requires extensive use of Blackboard. If you take the class over the course of 16 weeks, you will typically have 1 discussion board post, 1 discussion board reply, a varied amount of laboratory activities, and 1 quiz per week, except on the weeks you have tests.

In my experience, in APHY 101 it was not worth my money to buy the textbook or the labpaq through the school. I bought mine through Craigslist and even though I saved around $400, it was still not worth the money. Within Blackboard you will be told that your quizzes are based on the laboratory activities for the week, but for me, that was only true for about the first three quizzes of the semester (and it may have only been true for the 3rd quiz). After that, I didn't do a single lab for the rest of the semester and I didn't lose any points.

The courses have switched to the 8th edition of Human Anatomy and Physiology by Marieb since I started the sequence over the summer, but I have continued using the 7th edition and have not had any problems. You may want to ask your instructor before you do so, but if they're still using that book when you sign up for the course, I would say that you are safe. It looks like you can buy the 7th edition on Ebay for about $40.00, but you may be able to find it cheaper than that.

As far as all of the other stuff that came in the labpaq, the only thing that I ever used out of it was a CD that unfortunately the person I bought all of my materials off of did not include . However, I have the files on my computer, and I can check with someone who is currently in the class and see what they have needed and e-mail those to you if need be.

I hope this is helpful and that other people who have or are taking 101 online will reply as well, as it is possible not all of our experiences have been the same.

If you have any other questions, feel free to private message me.

As a side note, when you take an online class, it doesn't necessarily have to be through the campus that you attend. For instance, I live in Carmel and attend class at Lawrence Campus, but I also take online classes through Kokomo and Indianapolis. Additionally, I've met or spoken with people who live in the Indianapolis area who have taken classes out of Terra Haute, Gary, and Sellersburg. You can take your proctored exam at any approved testing facility, so I take mine at the Lawrence campus since that is most convenient. At the beginning of the semester your professor will simply ask them to e-mail or message them with the site where you would like to take your proctored exams.

You could also try searching this site for "APHY 101"? There are a lot of threads on here in which people discuss taking APHY 101 and 102 online through Ivy Tech. The classes are standardized across the state, so no matter where the people are taking the class, the information should be relevant.

csab · Nov 15, 2009

I took online 101 out of Muncie, and online 102 out of Columbus. I feel like I learned a lot and was very prepared for Advanced Physio 201 in person.

The labs for the online courses are either videos to watch, virtual simulated experiments to do, or activities that you are supposed to do at home. Honestly, I did the virtual labs and watched the videos but I never did any at home activities (such as dissecting a cow eyeball or a sheep brain). I only remember one quiz that had any questions about an at home activity--it was the quiz after we were supposed to dissect the sheep brain. The questions were easily answered even if one had not done it.

For online 102, the labs definitely DID require you to do all the labs that were virtual on the computer, and the quizzes asked very specific questions about them. We were also supposed to dissect a fetal pig; I did not. There was link to go to a website that had pics of all the dissection activities, and while there were some questions that I had to guess about, most questions I could answer correctly just from having studied the pics on that website.

Not having taken 101 or 102 in person, I'm not sure what the labs of those involve so it's hard to compare. I have heard that you had to know all the different types of tissues by ID'ing slides. In online 101, I don't remember having any slide ID questions on the exams. Obviously the textbook has illustrations of all the muscles and bones, and while the exams asked about some of the more major ones, we didn't have to memorize the whole body's worth.

All in all I am glad that I took 101 and 102 online because as I said before, I have felt very prepared for 201 and am getting a solid A in that class right now.

anomaly · Nov 16, 2009

That's a good point, csab. I'm sorry. I should have clarified.

As best I can remember, in APHY 101, all of my questions came straight out of the book. I probably Googled an answer or two as well, but I'm not sure. Also, the main reason I didn't do any of the labs after lab 3--and after I found out that the quizzes did not address the lab material--was because I was taking 3 8-week summer courses and it was the first time I had ever taken summer or 8-week classes. Had I had additional time, I probably would have done the labs even if I hadn't really needed to.

I have read someone else on here who said they think that one of there questions on each quiz may have come from the lab activities.

In APHY 102, however, all of the quizzes are over the lab activities. Typically, our labs have consisted of three parts: a virtual experiment on PhysioEx (these can be quite time consuming), a virtual pig dissection, and looking at slides of the organ system of a pig or cat online. I don't know if there is any way you could possibly pass these quizzes if you don't do the lab activities, especially PhysioEx. I take copious notes whenever there is a video at the beginning of one of the activities, and I also write out all my answers/draw tables as I work through each activity. The questions are very specific. They will ask you, for example, in activity 1, for the baseline rate, what was this value, etc.

With respect to the actual dissections, however, I didn't buy the labpaq or a pig or anything like that. I spoke with someone who said the labpaq for 102 is essentially the same as the one you buy for 101, except it has a pig as well. You can buy a pig online for

In another thread, some people addressed the issue that many times the computer can grade your quizzes and/or tests incorrectly, and some teachers will leave them open for you to view while others will not. I have had the same teacher for both classes and she lets us view ours. She goes through all of our quizzes and tests to correct computer errors and also entertains questions from students if you think a question was graded incorrectly and she missed it when she was reviewing them.

With regards to points: there are typically 4 exams, 12 discussion board postings, and 11 quizzes. The first discussion board posting is not graded. After that, each set of one discussion board posting and one response is worth 20 points, each quiz is worth 20 points, and the 1st and 3rd exam are worth 100 points each, while the midterm and final are worth 200 points each. At the end of the semester, one discussion board grade and one quiz are dropped. The class is worth a total of 1000 points, and you need at least 900 points to receive an A. In my 101 class, you had to receive at least a 65% or 130/200 points on your final to pass the class, even if you had a 100% going into the final and only needed 100 points to reach 900. Also, after the final, my teacher let us know that the "dropped" discussion board posting and quiz were added to the final test score, so it might be in your best interest to complete those even if you don't think you'll need them. I think extra credit, etc. are left up to the discretion of the professor. My professor also curved each test.

Also, in my APHY 101 class, exam 1 and the final were proctored, while in my APHY 102 class, the midterm and the final are proctored.

Csab--were there any other similarities/differences between your class(es) and mine?

csab · Nov 17, 2009

Yep that's pretty much how mine were too. For both 101 and 102, you had to pass the final with a 65% in order to pass the class. For me, my points worked out that I would either get an A or fail with no in between. If I got at least the 65% I would have enough points to get the A, and if I got less than 65% I would fail. I also had exam 1 and the final proctored in 101, but the midterm and final proctored in 102. I think they might have changed that now so that 101 also has the midterm and final proctored, but I'm not sure about that. I don't think my instructors added back in the dropped DB and quiz scores. My 101 prof definitely curved the final (not sure about the other exams). I do not know if my 102 prof curved anything. My 101 prof never opened up the exams or quizzes, but my 102 prof opened up everything for review.

As far as quizzes, it's possible that for this term they picked different questions for 101 so that one on each quiz is from the lab (unlike how it was in my 101 class where I swear there was only one quiz that had any lab questions on it). For 102 it is IMPERATIVE to do the labs and to print screens or take copious notes and to print out all your lab data. You also need to pay attention to stupid things in the videos--someone in my class had a question that asked what color was the lady's hair in the video. How stupid is that? I did not have that question but I was astounded that the other person did. What on earth does that have to do with learning anything from the video?

Emmi7 · Nov 17, 2009

I think CSAB and Anomaly pretty much answered everything. I am currently in APHY 101 online, 8 weeks out of Gary. I definitely would not suggest any APHY class in 8 weeks. I love 8 week classes but I think I needed more time to learn and retain the information. For me the class has been difficult well not so much the class but the exams, but I am not a very good test taker period. As far as the labs go we did not even need to purchase the LabPaq or anything although I did anyway. Everything we have needed the teacher has provided to us via links in BlackBoard. For our labs so far we have watched a few videos, completed a simulated experiment online, and answered questions that were then needed to answer the questions in the quiz. For the first 5 lab quizzes all the questions came from the book but now they are coming from both the labs and book material...

Our grades are weighted in this class as well:

Discussions (12 discussions only 11 graded at 20 points each--lowest ONE dropped) worth 20%

Lab Quizzes (12 lab quizzes graded at 20 points each--lowest TWO dropped) worth 20%

Exam 1 (100 points, non proctored) worth 10%

Midterm (200 points, proctored) worth 20%

Exam 3 (100 points, non proctored) worth 10%

Final (200 points, proctored, MUST pass with minimum of 60% to pass class) 20%

There are also about 4 Self Study quizzes and tests for each chapter and are for your learning benefit only, none of these are graded but they are very helpful on the exams.

Good luck!

csab · Nov 17, 2009

They must have changed things up a bit. I don't remember our points for things being weighted but maybe I'm just not remembering correctly.

anomaly · Nov 17, 2009

Did you ask your teacher if it's weighted or just points out of 1000? I've been trying to work out the numbers, but I'm too tired to do math. I guess I could ask my teacher. I keep thinking that there's not really a difference because it's out of 1000, and all it involves is the change of a decimal place:

DB: 200/200= 1.00 x 100= 100 x 0.20= 20.0

QU: 198/200= 0.99 x 100= 99 x 0.20= 19.8

E1: 100/100= 1.00 x 100= 100 x 0.10= 10.0

E2: 200/200= 1.00 x 100= 100 x 0.20= 20.0

E3: 100/100= 1.00 x 100= 100 x 0.10= 10.0

E4: 196/200= 0.98 x 100= 98 x 0.20= 19.6

994/1000 99.4/100

csab · Nov 17, 2009

Out of curiosity I looked up my syllabi from 101/102. They don't mention anything being weighted, it's just points out of 1000. But anomaly you're right, those weights Emmi listed are what the points out of 1000 are anyway.

Emmi does your syllabus say that you have to get 60% on the final to pass? If so then they did change that from 65%.

Emmi7 · Nov 17, 2009

Sorry guys I just saw the percentages and didn't do the math just assumed it would be another weighted class. Thank you guys for pointing that out to me sometimes I am a little slow:)

And yes the syllabus does say minimum 60% on the final...I think I will need that extra 5% lol!

anomaly · Nov 17, 2009

Hey Emmi,

I hope that's right. I just don't want you to worry about "weights," etc. if you don't have to. Does your "My Grades" tab give you a running tally of what your percentage is in the class as the semester progresses? I usually just keep track of that.

I just noticed that for my 102 class is says that we need a 60% on the final instead of a 65% like last semester.

Emmi7 · Nov 17, 2009

Yes there is a total percentage column but the teacher advised not to pay attention to that for some reason...

On another note, I found this response on the Ivy Tech Community College Discussion Board, a moderator is the one who posted:

"If you are referring to an APHY class, we are currently reviewing the policy. Previously, students were allowed to retake the APHY course as many times as possible. This has presented a problem with students taking this course multiple times without restriction. We are now in the midst of reviewing this policy to make the process fair for all students."