All About the NET

emag · Aug 13, 2009

Yes I have the ERI book but will purchase the online test as well. They are different than the ones in te book right? The arent about owl's or grass? I just hate to pay twice for the same material. Thanks

Iwantobeanurse · Aug 14, 2009

No, they are different. After you take it the first time, look at your score and try to study in between before taking it again. At the bottom of this page is good information http://hfcclab.info/net_handouts.htm

Also check out the beginning http://hfcclab.info/NET/

Goog Luck!

baldee · Aug 15, 2009

NET, Paper & CRT screen test question format difference

by baldee

Greetings,

I've used the Net test creators online test (now $20/single test) and its one question per short paragraph, with maybe one multi paragraph/question or two in Reading Test.

>> The short paragraphs are easier to refer back too, but a lot of switching gears and almost not enough time to check answers.

I will be taking a written test because I cannot see crt screens too well (cataracts). And I notice the Momentex LLC tests ($19 per 3 tests) are longer paragraphs with many questions format.

>> They require closer reading, but can be more sure of questions, and time to refer to a couple if need too.

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1. Are the written tests formatted with many questions, and the online shorter paragraphs with single questions? Or are the multi questions on both the crt screens and written tests, or is the predominant multi question the old format?

2. IF anyone can please tell me about recent NET tests since CRTs tests (CRTs gave me cataracts as an engineer staring at screen for 15 years 12 hours a day), ESPECIALLY if they took the WRITTEN TEST.

3. ALSO, I'm NOT SURE the CRT screen tests are as easy as the Creators (now) $20 practice test. Any insight would be appreciated.

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There are free ones, and I've got to go thru one already listed on Net thread at top of page (20 tests of about 17 questions each), but once I go thru them, I memorize them. So even if I don't check the answers, which I need to start doing, I know just where to look and it makes me quicker anyway. Then it bumps me up to 90% if I checked answers and in 70/80% if didn't check answer. At least Ive been consistent 68% first time average :-(

I'll probably pay for the reading lab for $25 too. The rest of tests are duck soup. The comprehension so far, until I learn how to better figure these bone head questions out, I get about 68 to 70 the first round on both the short and the long paragraphs AVERAGE. I've got to get a 60 MINIMUM, so that's not good enough ( I know, blah, blah, blah... Just want to show I'm concerned like everyone else here, except the bots to buy flash cards, lol).

Any recent advice or old appreciated.

God Bless!!

Thanks so much

semuller · Aug 15, 2009

emag, I dont know how much time you have to pass the reading section, but if you can get to this site and go to the areas that apply , this might help. I got a passing score second try doing this..and I did aweful the first time as well... http://www.townsend press.com

remember when you get a concept down, practice timing yourself.I hope this helps. This is an all english site

emag · Aug 15, 2009

I created a townsend account but my school wasnt listed on the drop down so its asking me what book to use and I have no clue. Which one did you use since it helped you so much? Thanks

njadreamer · Aug 23, 2009

I used myreadinglab.com I just retook the net and raised my reading score to an 82. It cost $25, but it was worth it to raise my score. This is just an option. Hope it helps.
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Congrads on your score ! I have a couple of questions may be you can help me ? So the reading lab really helped ? Do you know how long it lasts and who makes it ? Also you did yours on the computer we do a paper copy. Are the passages on the computer as long as the examples in the book ? The paper copy the passages are longer. It's not any thing like all the samples I did. I'm doing great in the math a 98 but that stupid reading I got a 61 we need a 65 or better. I'm afraid that I'm going for the same answers as last time. So really my question is did you find that it was easier when you did it the second time. That you understand more of what they are asking because you did the readinglab ? I figure if I strengthen even just one area this would help because I'm so.... close I would figure maybe two more questions right give or take I would make it. I would love to do better but what I'm hearing from my school alot of people are failing the reading. Even people who were 4.00 in high school and in college. And they are failing !! Maybe it's the paper copy ? Well thanks I hope you can help me. :crying2:

SeaOtter · Aug 24, 2009

Congrads on your score ! I have a couple of questions may be you can help me ? So the reading lab really helped ? Do you know how long it lasts and who makes it ? Also you did yours on the computer we do a paper copy. Are the passages on the computer as long as the examples in the book ? The paper copy the passages are longer. It's not any thing like all the samples I did. I'm doing great in the math a 98 but that stupid reading I got a 61 we need a 65 or better. I'm afraid that I'm going for the same answers as last time. So really my question is did you find that it was easier when you did it the second time. That you understand more of what they are asking because you did the readinglab ? I figure if I strengthen even just one area this would help because I'm so.... close I would figure maybe two more questions right give or take I would make it. I would love to do better but what I'm hearing from my school alot of people are failing the reading. Even people who were 4.00 in high school and in college. And they are failing !! Maybe it's the paper copy ? Well thanks I hope you can help me.

It gives you a year access to the reading lab. I was able to choose more then one book, so I had beginner and intermediate reading passages. Yes they are as long in the reading lab work. The test on the computer is made up of a single story for all the questions. You actually read it as fast as you can, then it gives you 1 - 2 paragraphs from thereading to answer questions on. I personally wish I had taken a paper test, cause you can go back and look at the whole passage vs. a couple of paragraphs at a time. I feel I would of done even better, because there were several questions that asked you to refer to passages given to you earlier and you have no way to go back and reread. I feel this will help you, if you sit down and work through at least 1 chapters work everyday and honestly try to improve. I also covers stuff like reading and outline and studying your textbook which helps greatly.

Yes I did find the questions extremely easier after the reading lab, because I understood exactly what the question stem was asking me and what to look for. I highly recommended it. You will get better at reading, just by reading, but when you are preforming certain tasks that have been taught to you earlier, you really learn how to read.

I hope this helps.

Dan

baldee · Aug 24, 2009

From one of those links on this thread, it shows several ways to figure out the main idea of the passage by 3 different methods. It helped greatly, time crunch not included. The writing expression was a difficult part because the eriworld single test was the only example for this section. They go through details beyond reasonable need, and not adhered to commonly. I'm surprised no one else is being graded on or worried about that part. I studied my personal pronouns (who, whom, that, which, whoever, whomever,...) which was not SPECIFICALLY written down in any text or reference on web (and what you could find written down partially was often wrong!); and the the test flipflopped to only 2 personal pronoun questions (no whoever or whomever questions) and a dozen spelling questions

:-0

Oh well, it was good training I needed no doubt. I know that I missed 'attorneys', and assume I did not miss over 21 more.

The reading, once you know the several main idea methodologies, is just do as many graded examples as you can ($20 per different test if you're serious: including $25 test, $104 total for me), so you can check yourself. Unfortunately, once you do a test, you memorize them, whether you know the right answer or not. At least you know where to look faster for the information. Of course the detail component and inference questions make you look up EVERY detail in the passage, usually, so that's no fun.

By doing every source you can find is kind of interesting too. You just about go through many areas which help yourself personally and know many subjects historically and many science areas (although I probably got only 10/15 in non graded Science section). It would have been hard to have thrown me off on the reading by test time (but maybe not a day sooner, because I had it measured down to the wire!), except for one of those thick English (UK) tongued circular logic passages. I can't understand those, no matter how many times I read them.

Since I cannot edit this later, I'll leave my score predictions off

:-)

baldee · Aug 24, 2009

Yes, I do need a little work on my future perfect verb cases, but education is a continuous process

njadreamer · Aug 24, 2009

I personally wish I had taken a paper test, cause you can go back and look at the whole passage vs. a couple of paragraphs at a time. I feel I would of done even better, because there were several questions that asked you to refer to passages given to you earlier and you have no way to go back and reread. .
Dan

Hi ! Thanks for getting back to me ! So you can't go back and read the whole paragraph again ? I thought you could go back over each sec. at that time but could not go back over other sec. ? For example after you were finished with math you can't go back. You see I think I know my problem with the paper copy they use scantrons. And both times I spelled my address wrong ! I did'nt put the dots down right. My eyes go buggie sp. with those scantrons ! And also I jumped around with the passages. And I did'nt with the math. Maybe I lost my place. I have been doing very well with pratice tests but with this test I can't seem to pass. Thanks for the advice and help I'm willing to try any thing !!! :crying2:

njadreamer · Aug 24, 2009

From one of those links on this thread, it shows several ways to figure out the main idea of the passage by 3 different methods. It helped greatly, time crunch not included. The writing expression was a difficult part because the eriworld single test was the only example for this section. . Really
The reading, once you know the several main idea methodologies, is just do as many graded examples as you can ($20 per different test if you're serious: including $25 test, $104 total for me), so you can check yourself. Unfortunately, once you do a test, you memorize them, whether you know the right answer or not. At least you know where to look faster for the information. Of course the detail component and inference questions make you look up EVERY detail in the passage, usually, so that's no fun.
:-)

Thanks for giving me some ideas that can help ! I'm going to have to look for this link that helps you figure out the main idea three ways. What tests are these you can buy ? Are they the eri tests ? I thought there was only one test you can buy ? I'm going to buy it a month before I take the test. It's true about memorizing the tests after you take them. That's the problem I'm am worried about doing in the real test but the only difference is I'm being pulled to my first answer which is wrong ! I just don't get it I"m doing well in pratice tests. The only thing I could think it could be is the scantrons. I never do well when I take tests with these ! My eyes go buggie ! And one other thing I jumped around with the reading but not with the math I could have lost my place. Get back to me how you did I'm sure great !!

baldee · Aug 24, 2009

http://college.cengage.com/devenglish/resources/reading_ace/students/index.html

http://www.scf.edu/pages/3386.asp

http://hfcclab.info/net_handouts.htm

http://www.hobet-success.com/?gclid=CIjC3bDKrZwCFQkIswod_GvpFw

http://www.vue.com/net/

Ask the company, with the many test sample questions (at start of SCF.edu site above - first link at bottom of page), about JUST TEST copies on email contact form, 3 exams but 1 exam can be find on sample tests elsewhere, for $15. That and an English book, some web sites (which were often wrong), and a Dictionary is all I used. Just save about 3 reading tests for day before, to get in groove. You may find more too. Make sure you can max out the eriworld exam ‘by’ the day before. I wouldn’t even worry about the math except for 1 time the day before. I had one week and a half about 2 hours per day, and then a blitz on day before all day, slept 6 hours, and tested at 11am. Everyone’s different though. I had to catch up on Writing skills, after I got the reading down (aced the eriworld w/o verifying every question at a time: from reading the third link above mainly while doing examples in one with 20 tests - first link I think).

I looked at that Reading Lab site, but their software is so screwed up from protections, it would have taken a while to learn it. I got my money from the reading lab I paid for over the weekend as soon as they got in Monday morning, ha ha (My spider senses were tingling, like SpiderMan). And the reading skills trick I learned on the last sentence of the last paragraph (in parentheses) was all I needed; although I did not know that then – I was just running out of time, and didn’t want to spend it learning inferior software systems. Search out EVERY link above. Its quite a lot. I spent about 16 hours total printing ONE copy of each: don’t forget to organize them in folders! You just have to get your personal sequencing and timing just right. The eriworld written expression test is good, once you figure it all out, to review efficiently for that section. Then its just down to getting your breathing and digestive patterns in tune with your test time: and smile real big at the test administrators!!

And the last link is the National Test administrators. Ask the head man about any last minute questions (like how is eriworld test sample parts compared to real test), and he will put you at ease. He doesn’t seem to have anything else to do. Its just a final safety check to make sure you are in control and ready to rock.

It’s a stressor, but ultimately, its just another big test. GOOD LUCK!!

There is nothing more I can add.

AND it all came together on the last DAY! So don't get discouraged.