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Not being an experienced ICU nurse myself, I'd hardly be willing to challenge her but I think it's most likely a combination of the placebo effect, distraction, and acclimation. Recovering from being "a bit dizzy" is likely to happen to most patients without any intervention.I had an experienced ICU RN show me an "old recovery trick" where just after she stood up a post-op patient for her first walk, she wafted an alcohol prep pad under the patient's nose when patient said she felt a bit dizzy.
I'm skeptical of folk remedies without a mechanism or backed by studies.
iPA is not noxious and I don't think it's going to have any effect. Why would you make the leap from "it helped alleviate dizziness" to "maybe it'll wake my unresponsive patient?" That doesn't seem like a logical connection to me.was ALSO wondering if I have a patient who is unresponsive to voice, and before I do a painful sternal rub, would this be something to try?
Thank you! :)
I had a professor teach us about using an alcohol swab for nausea. I tried it recently when doing an IV push for a cancer patient who was extremely nauseated from the taste of the IV push through her port...she could taste it every time we did a push and it made her vomit. She had vomited on the previous pushes, but on the third I handed her a alcohol swab and she sniffed it and avoided vomiting. I think it can work for nausea because the strong smell overpowers whatever is triggering the nausea.
I wouldn't want to try something "old" (as in "an old recovery trick") without hearing from a great many other nurses who had success with it, then I might try it if other interventions failed.
Being curious by nature, the idea that this could also work like smelling salts, i.e. if I could illicit a reaction in a slow-to-respond patient before causing them pain, why wouldn't this be a valid thought process? Or IS it better to just go from Hello?Hello? to the painful sternum rub without a quick step in between?
All comments welcome! :) Thank you for taking time to do so..
It's just not a particularly noxious stimulus.I wouldn't want to try something "old" (as in "an old recovery trick") without hearing from a great many other nurses who had success with it, then I might try it if other interventions failed.Being curious by nature, the idea that this could also work like smelling salts, i.e. if I could illicit a reaction in a slow-to-respond patient before causing them pain, why wouldn't this be a valid thought process? Or IS it better to just go from Hello?Hello? to the painful sternum rub without a quick step in between?
All comments welcome! :) Thank you for taking time to do so..
There are a variety of tactile stimuli which are less severe than a sternal rub and there are degrees of severity in a sternal rub itself.
There are lots of studies regarding the smell of alcohol and its ability to reduce nausea and vomiting. While I'm not aware of any that suggest smelling alcohol reduces orthostatic hypotension (likely the reason the patient felt dizzy upon standing), I suspect it encourages the patient to take deep breaths, increasing the amount of oxygen flowing to the brain.
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I had an experienced ICU RN show me an "old recovery trick" where just after she stood up a post-op patient for her first walk, she wafted an alcohol prep pad under the patient's nose when patient said she felt a bit dizzy.
It seemed to work (or the amount of time standing stabilized her anyway?) I'm curious to hear thoughts on this, and was ALSO wondering if I have a patient who is unresponsive to voice, and before I do a painful sternal rub, would this be something to try?
Thank you! :)