I am a failrly new Associate degree RN in Texas and am moving to Alberta in July where I am from originally (no medical eduction from Canada).
I have contacted the CARNA for registration. What a nightmare. I was sent the papers for my school, Board of Nurse Examiners for Texas and myself to fill out. I sent my $200+ for them to look over my references and was told by a couple of people there that I did not need the work reference YET since I had not completed my 225 hours of work as an RN required for my employer to fill out the reference. I was told not having this would NOT hold up my other papers from being evaluated. All of my other papers were sent by the appropriate parties.
I was then told (e-mail) by 2 other people at the CARNA that I WOULD have to have the work reference for them to even look at my references. I sent an e-mail to everyone who was telling me different things, and the registrar (one of the people I had been talking to) was a little preturbed and said that I was confused because they were trying to accomodate me and bend the rules. I told them in a nice way that if I had not received conflicting e-mails, I would not have been confused.
I then had my work reference sent because it was causing so many problems. I did not want ot do this yet as it would alert my employer as to my intentions before I was ready.
The registrar had also indicated that it was "quite possible" that I would have to do a "Substantively Equivalent Competence assessment".
What the hell is this now? QUITE possible??
By the sounds of it, I am thinking that pretty much EVERYONE that is internationally educated has to complete this Substantively Equivalent Competence assessment before they give you access to the CRNE...am I right?? This is terrible. I was planning on taking the CRNE in Aug, right after I move up there.
I am an RN here...I am practicing as such, but in a nursery- not an adult floor. I am a little worried about what this is and what it consists of and what the Alberta Dilploma'd nurses learn that I did not...
I guess I am jumping the gun here a bit, but I have a bad feeling that this is the norm going into Alberta, especially for a recent grad/RN educated internatioanlly.
Can anyone elaborate on this or have any experience going from the US to Alberta recently?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
The intresting thing, may be, that this is the real reason for those new demands, don't you think so?
I'm not sure what you mean by that. CARNA has always charged for any assessment of education or practice for anyone from anywhere. When I moved to Alberta from Manitoba I paid several hundred dollars in fees to both CARNA and CRNM.
2. I know, that the first assessment of CARNA and courses of Mount Royal College have their fees, i asked about fees for SEC itself, i didn"t found this information not on the CARNA's site nor on the Mount Royal College's site.
I am a nurse trained and practising in the u.k. Just saw on CARNA's website that i need to undergo SEC assesment in two areas. Does this mean i will be eligible for a restricted temporary permit or application is defered until after SEC? Please helppppppppppppp
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
sabrino76, I've merged all the threads relating to the Substantively Equivalent Assessment process in Alberta to reduce the duplication of information that is becoming quite burdensome for those of us who are replying. Please read all the posts preceding yours and I think you'll find that all your questions will be answered.
i am told that i nees SEC assesment in 2 area paeds and mental health, would that entitle you to a restricted permit? I would mot be happy giving up my job here in the u.k if i would not be able to work in alberta while waiting to take the SEC and subsequently CRNE.
How would I be able to prepare for the SEC Assessment? After the SEC assessment is done, am I obliged to stay in canada to wait for the results? Because ive heard if you failed in one or two areas, you need to take short courses. and then you have to upgrade your tourist visa to student visa. i think it's pretty hard but I've got no choice than to undergo the assessment. Thank you very much.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
From what I understand, if one is required to undergo an SEC assessment, there is no chance of a temporary permit. Temporary permits are issued to those whose educations meet Canadian standards for the interim period while waiting for the CRNE. Obviously if you need SEC then your education doesn't meet requirements.
I'm not aware of any requirement that a person remain in Canada following their SEC, but it true that if you don't meet the standards of competence in any area, you have to take courses through Mount Royal College to upgrade your education. They're usually about 4 months in length and will include a clinical component. Clearly you could not do that with a tourist visa.
Coming to Alberta to work as a nurse is not easy or cheap for anyone, even for people from other Canadian provinces. CARNA has the highest standards in the country and is not interested in watering them down, so all applicants will have to meet the same challenges.
i have gone through SEC substantially equivalent competence assesment regarding my registration as RN in alberta , Now carna asked me to do one of these courses before appearing in CRNE
HLTH2310 professional Nursing in Canada
or NURS 321 orientation in CAnadian Health care system and RL role
can any one give some information about which of these courses is cheaper to complete and can be completed in shorter time scale
and one more thing CARANA said that after doing this course i can work as a graduate nurse , so can some one please advice what is the differnce between graduate nurse and LPN
thanks
Hi:
I need your help. I have my SEC Assessment day after tomorrow and I am really tensed about OSCE. Right now my anxiety level is way too high. Could you please share your experience about Assessment?.
after paying the necessary fees for your credentials evaluation and receive the letter or invitation requiring for sec assessment, the assessment in itself, held in mt royal, (based from what ive heard who has taken this was 1) is free of any charge or staffs. the carna on the otherhand require you to have an examination fee.
hi and how are u doin?? im will be taking sec assessment soon. have read your comments and stuffs.. can you please site a specific question being asked in the triple jump assessment. i have seen examples already in the carna website, but i need to know more specific questions or scenarios being asked
i hope if you dont mind post some tips :)
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please email me by clicking on the envelope above to share ur experince in ur sec.. we need to help each other
after paying the necessary fees for your credentials evaluation and receive the letter or invitation requiring for sec assessment, the assessment in itself, held in mt royal, (based from what ive heard who has taken this was 1) is free of any charge or staffs. the carna on the otherhand require you to have an examination fee.
hi and how are u doin?? im will be taking sec assessment soon. have read your comments and stuffs.. can you please site a specific question being asked in the triple jump assessment. i have seen examples already in the carna website, but i need to know more specific questions or scenarios being asked
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
As I replied in your other post about SEC Triple Jump, the exact questions asked cannot be shared with other candidates. That would be considered cheating. The examples on the Mount Royal site are as close to the true questions as you can get.
Hello, I chanced upon your posting and although i know it's been a while since you posted this, I wanted to know what ultimately happened to your application.
I'm a recent ADN grad from a US college and I'm wanting to move to Canada. From other postings, people seem to think that BC and Alberta are open to ADN graduates from the US. Is this true?
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. CARNA has always charged for any assessment of education or practice for anyone from anywhere. When I moved to Alberta from Manitoba I paid several hundred dollars in fees to both CARNA and CRNM.
The SEC comes out of the fees for assessment of credentials. Once they've assessed your credentials they decide whether you'll need an SEC based on their initial assessment. Mount Royal will then arrange the SEC and tell you what fees are to be charged for that. It will depend on how many different areas need to be assessed. http://www.mtroyal.ca/ProgramsCourses/FacultiesSchoolsCentres/HealthCommunityStudies/Programs/IENAssessmentCentre/InformationforIENs/index.htm There is nothing specifically related to fees on this site. This page does include information about fees for the Bridge to Canadian Nursing program at Mount Royal: http://www.mtroyal.ca/ProgramsCourses/FacultiesSchoolsCentres/HealthCommunityStudies/Programs/BridgetoCanadianNursing/AdmissionRequirementsCosts/index.htm