Ahmaud Arbery Murder Trial

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Ahmaud Arbery: What do we know about the case?

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Ahead of opening arguments, Greg McMichael's lawyer told BBC News that the defence will hinge on a two-part strategy: citizen's arrest and self-defence. 

"They got in the truck to pursue Mr Arbery for the purpose of detaining him long enough for the police to arrive to take over and investigate whether in fact he had committed any crimes," said lawyer Franklin Hogue.

"That turned from a citizen's arrest into self-defence." 

I listen to and watch this trial in the evenings.  What do you think about it so far?

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Apparently the judge in the case disagrees with your assessment...and that of Mr Bryan's defense attorney.  

Apparently no one is acknowledging that this type of situation is what appeals are granted for. Would Al Sharpton with his reputation cause the jury to be intimidated or otherwise not be able to come to a verdict based on the evidence instead of intimidation or implied threat? Kinda like the protesters chanting outside of the jury deliberation room in the Rittenhouse trial? This is complete BS and makes the justice system look inept,stupid and not trustworthy.  

 

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7 hours ago, Cclm said:

Apparently no one is acknowledging that this type of situation is what appeals are granted for. Would Al Sharpton with his reputation cause the jury to be intimidated or otherwise not be able to come to a verdict based on the evidence instead of intimidation or implied threat? Kinda like the protesters chanting outside of the jury deliberation room in the Rittenhouse trial? This is complete BS and makes the justice system look inept,stupid and not trustworthy.  

 

Good thing that you don't live here and won't ever have to deal with American justice as a nonwhite female. 

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6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Good thing that you don't live here and won't ever have to deal with American justice as a nonwhite female. 

Are you serious? Guess what? I can move there anytime I want. I am a US citizen just like you. I have lived there. I've spent time living there  in the south when my dad was stationed there. 

Is it so hard for you to comprehend that a person can both live and immigrate to Canada from the US and visa versa? 

Or do you imagine all immigrants as the illegal ones coming up from the south? 

No I will not have to deal with American justice as a non-white female because I do not commit crime!! Here there or anywhere. 

I also do not tend to jog in neiborhood far from my home in kaki shorts going  in and put of private homes being built. So I guess I'm also safe from the evil shot gun nazis as well. 

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5 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Are you serious? Guess what? I can move there anytime I want. I am a US citizen just like you. I have lived there. I've spent time living there  in the south when my dad was stationed there. 

Is it so hard for you to comprehend that a person can both live and immigrate to Canada from the US and visa versa? 

Or do you imagine all immigrants as the illegal ones coming up from the south? 

No I will not have to deal with American justice as a non-white female because I do not commit crime!! Here there or anywhere. 

I also do not tend to jog in neiborhood far from my home in kaki shorts going  in and put of private homes being built. So I guess I'm also safe from the evil shot gun nazis as well. 

But you don't live here now...do you?

You seem to be confused about what I comprehend or understand about travel and immigration.  Oh well.  That mini rant is off topic anyway. 

Do you think that only black people who have committed crimes deal with the American justice system? 

Who called the defendants in this case "shot gun nazis"? Is that projection?

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12 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

But you don't live here now...do you?

You seem to be confused about what I comprehend or understand about travel and immigration.  Oh well.  That mini rant is off topic anyway. 

Do you think that only black people who have committed crimes deal with the American justice system? 

Who called the defendants in this case "shot gun nazis"? Is that projection?

Yes. I am a shot gun nazi, that's why I projected it on... who exactly? 

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8 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Yes. I am a shot gun nazi, that's why I projected it on... who exactly? 

I have no clue why you are throwing around that language unless it's because you aren't really aware of the proceedings in this particular trial, can't really comment on the facts or evidence and have chosen to troll the thread instead.  

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13 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I have no clue why you are throwing around that language unless it's because you aren't really aware of the proceedings in this particular trial, can't really comment on the facts or evidence and have chosen to troll the thread instead.  

Yes I know I'm a troll. At least I'm not a white supremacists this time. 

The shot gun nazis are the men on trial, but you knew that. 

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I'm not certain that Travis McMichael's decision to take the witness stand is going well for him.  Does Mr Bryan's attorney get to question Travis? Travis made it sound like Bryan was the person who was interacting most with the victim.  

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That attorney for the state really stepped in it by asking that question about the death penalty for property crimes like theft. Yikes.  A proper reprimand is definitely in order. 

What was she thinking? 

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The defense witnesses seem to be describing neighborhood thinking and suspicion that was heavily influenced by facebook posts. 

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The prosecution and defense have both completed their closing arguments and the judge has given the jury their charges and directions.  My sense is that this shooter is not going to be treated as leniently as was Rittenhouse in Wisconsin. 

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The jury returned guilty verdicts on multiple counts.  Travis McMichael guilty of 9/9 charges.  Gregory McMichael guilty of 8/9. Bryan guilty of 6/9 charges.  

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