Any infor on Interim Health Care? - page 2
Hi Friends, I am considering signing with another agency in Western Pa, Have any of you heard of or worked for Interim healthcare? I would appreciate all honest feedback. Thanks.... Read More
Oct 9, '02Occupation: RN, MS home health Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 7,472; Likes: 49Not good, don't go there.
Oct 14, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 15Some of the things that Interim offices are allowed to get by with seems disturbing some times. I do want to say though that my experiences with them, while quite bad, are not intended to slander the company as a whole. They are things that happenned to me (and some friends too), but I imagine many people have had positive experiences with them.
(MY PLEASE DON'T SUE ME FYI)
Oct 26, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 10Anyone familiar with RNNetwork travel agency? Feedback please.
Oct 27, '02Occupation: Enterprise Application Systems Analyst Specialty: 27 year(s) of experience in Everything except surgery ; Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 5,601; Likes: 174Go to this forum and ask that question, and you will get answers you seek. So far what I have seen is mostly positive.
Nov 10, '02Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 4I guess the best way to look at things is to realize that not all agencies are the same. I went with a "Big House" type of egency falsy believing the ads in RN journals that promised lavish locations with "great pay". After a few assignments with this "Big" agency, I decided that the next agency I got with was going to be recommended by word of mouth,that that person must have had a positive experience with them and would highly recommend signing with them. We all know what a ******* pain in the ass it is to become "complinat" with the agencies paperwork and the necessary lab work and licencing and all the other stuff. Sometimes I think that it would just be easier to go to work for a hospital and take advantage of benifits that are concrete, free education perks and a retirement plan. However, my primary focu for the last 2 years, since my son was born, is MONEY, thats right cash. It seems that when you and your spouce are earning aliving and then only one of you is and that one is subject to being "called off" or "downstaffed" on a routine basis then agency, travel, perdiem whate ever you want to call it is the only way to go. Cash is the only thing that pays the bills and feeds the kiddos and no mater howmany bennies the staff hospitals ofer they just arent going to pay what I make in a travel assignment. So if your willing to put up with ALOT of BS away from home or even close to home then agency is the way to go, if not, stay on staff, go back to school and become a doctor or something, there the only ones who can screw up royaly without any accountability these days
Nov 19, '02Occupation: Saving Lives Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 4I work for Nurse finders and they have been around a long time. I see more of them in the hosp that Int. The pay is excellent and nice perks. If you want any more info let me know. You are going to love agency!!!!
Nov 19, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 15Nursefinders is a joke here where I live (Kansas). Interim's local office went out of business years ago (thank god). Starmed used to be the best but then the office crew there bailed out and went to Alacrity. Now Alacrity is the best in my area. Just goes to show you how things change.Last edit by eddy on Nov 19, '02
Nov 19, '02Occupation: RN, CLNC, Entrepreneur Joined: Apr '01; Posts: 6,312; Likes: 106Good point eddy; Agency strength varies with the seasons practically.
Here in Denver, we have seen great changes and shifts between the nightmare of 9-11, Enron Crash, impact of airline power and loss of revenue, and the addition of AllAboutStaffing with the largest of facilities here of Health One.
Diversify with registry has been my survival.
It is this type of conversatin that impowers us and helps us to be strong in ourselves. Just like not counting on one facility for income, we should not count on one agency for assignments.
All my agencies know that I am diverse in my contacts. We went through the whole power struggle with loyalty. I cam to the conclusion that they have more then one nurse and so I should have at least more then one agency.
It works for me....
Nov 19, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 15Nighngale1998 - I agree with most of what you said, but I prefer to keep a primary agency and one or two others as my fallback to plug in days if and when times are slow with my primary. Sometimes things DO get slow with any agency, so this is important.
Agency is also a "you pat mine I pat yours" business. I am honest and upfront with all my agencies. My primary knows that they are my primary, and they also know I have secondaries as backup. My secondaries know they are secondary, but of course that doesn't stop them from trying to convince me otherwise.
I have a lot of friends that tried to be everything thing to everyone when it came to the agencies in town. Generally what results is them being disliked by all, and in the end out of work.
I get a ton of respect from my primary and they go out of their way to keep me busy and happy. They do this because they know the commitment I have made to them. It is reciprical. They know me well, know what I like, what I don't, etc. Over the years, I have become good friends with the office staff, and we even share Christmas gifts every year. When I was sick, the office manager even came to my house and dropped off my check and a care package. Pretty cool.
The other big reason to maintain a primary is benefits. I get paid time off, insurance, 401k from my primary. These are offered at my secondaries too, but my primary has the best (I stress though that they are the best for ME, not necesarily everyone as it depends on what is important to you). Plus, to maintain good benefits you really need to try to put in most of your time with just one.
Anyway, just my thoughts.Last edit by eddy on Nov 19, '02
Nov 19, '02Occupation: RN, CLNC, Entrepreneur Joined: Apr '01; Posts: 6,312; Likes: 106Eddy:
Thank you for your comments. All my agencies know about each other. Quite frankly, the market here in Denver (where I primarily work) could not handle a full time schedule for me.
I have been with N F for over a year at this site and over a year in antoehr city. We too enjoy a personable relationship. They call me first for many of my favorite types of assignments (wellness clinic job fairs etc).
To me, the key emphasis is diversity. Loyalty too in that I would never take a call from one agency to dump them for a call fom another agency. Once I am scheduled I am commited.
My loyalty is to myself. Quite frankly, independent contracting is my goal (see Nurse Entrepreneur Forum).
"They" all know me as a great worker in my community. I have saved some "report cards" and documentation form clients to proove it.
Basically, the community you work in is probably going to be different depending on where you live. When I summer camp nursed, I fully expected to be able to agency nurse a little on the side for extra moeny. What a surprise it was to find out the closest hospital NEVER used agency. They did occasionally use travel nurses but those times were infreqauent. This was in an area that had a lot of nursing schools in the area and was rather rurual (upstate NY).
All of these comments and discussions are important in the learning process. Feeling the pulse of the community you are working in is also very important.
Nov 19, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 15I couldn't agree more with that nightngale! I have been in several different "markets" and each of them has varied tremendously. Some places you literally had to say STOP CALLING I'M FULL because you are scheduled for 60+ hours while others were the complete opposite.
The market is the biggest detirmining factor IMO. I am lucky to be in what I would call a very balanced market now days. I have been full-time agency and have rarely had a week go by with less than 40 hours. My perspective in my previous posts is somewhat skewed due to this current market I am in.
Nov 19, '02Occupation: Full time student Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 758; Likes: 2One of the things I have always thought about doing was having my own agency. My question to agency nurses is what do you look for. Having been a temp in various agencies, I know that though the client is important, so are the workers sent out. When temp agencies treat temps with the respect they deserve, I knew it was an agency I wanted to belong to. I believe this is no less what nurses deserve.
Again, let me know what you want in your agency.
Nov 19, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 393; Likes: 15In my time I have seen more "mom and pop" agencies fail miserably than succeed. It is very costly. Remember you have to pay your nurses and bills but the clients don't pay for at least a month after the invoice and often two months. Some will never pay. Ever wondered why nursing homes change names so often? Besides the fact that they were shutdown for poor conditions they also do this when they build up too much debt and file chapter 11. For some places this is almost an annual event! There are several nursing home companies that are actually in the business of buying and selling bankrupt nursing home property, building up debt and selling it off for a profit right after they default on all the payments and file chapter 11. They simply change names and keep going. However, you HAVE to pay your nurses and your bills and unless you have a lot of cash the financing on your payroll (until the client pays).
The agency thing is best left to corporate investors who know the "bad" companies, can absorb the loses when they happen, and get by in the slow times. It is far more work and expense than most individuals can handle. Trust me I have thought about opening one too, and those books that claim they can tell you how to do it (which I've read) are full of BS. I was an accountant for 10 years before I got into nursing, and I will tell you right now unless you have a million bucks to play around with, you are better off investing your money in T-Bills (which suck) than you are trying to open an agency. Even with a million bucks I would say you are better off doing something else!
The common belief is that this industry is SOOOO profitable. It most certainly can be, but it is also a way to lose everything real fast. The ones who profit from this are us nurses who work for the agencies and let them deal with the business part of it.Last edit by eddy on Nov 19, '02