Ageism?

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I've been a nurse for 21+ years, was a "late entry" who went back to school when my kids started school. Been doing travel nursing for the last almost 2 1/2 years and enjoyed it as I was divorced within that time and it was an opportunity to try my wings and see what I'd missed.

Now I am considering relocating and settling down. I have a place in mind and have been looking for a job in the area. I've submitted resumes to both career sites and individual facilities, been called by recruiters, and had several interviews, but nothing has come of them. In one case, I was invited back at company expense for a second interview and was told I was their "leading candidate," then after that interview did not hear from them for a week. I finally e-mailed the first person who interviewed me, who would have been my direct supervisor, and 2 days(!) later received an e-mail back stating that they had decided I wasn't a "good fit" after all. (This after they had told me I was!) I got an official notice from their HR department the following week, which they didn't have enough class to have a human being sign. Last week I had an interview for a job I'd been recruited for and I haven't heard a thing from them either. In all cases I've sent the requisite thank-you notes, etc.

BUT...I am approaching what some might consider retirement age. I don't look it, I'm in excellent health, and I have a good attendance record. If it's come up at all (it only did once), I've assured prospective employers that I have no intention of retiring any time soon. You'd think with that, and my experience, and the nursing shortage, I could get somewhere. I am seriously thinking that there is ageism at work, and it looks like I'm doomed to finish out my career as a traveler. Discrimination on the basis of age is illegal, but you can't ever prove it.

It all depends on the facility and their desire to provide excellent care. We have a RN who is retired, but still works per diem to the maximum allowed. Sondra is ~70 years old, runs rings around the younger nurses, and is absolutely great to work with. I hope to have her level of energy and enthusiasm in 15 years at her age.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
i'm sorry to hear about the trouble you're having finding a good position, cvryder. i have to say that this post (and the replies) is scaring the bejeezers out of me, a very "non-traditional" student. i'm 50 and hoping to start a two-year rn program next fall. now i'm wondering if i'm just setting myself up for failure. is ageism really common in nursing? obviously as a newbie i wouldn't be earning the higher pay that comes with experience, but is that the only reason for this attitude of "get 'em young"? if not, it worries me no end that i'm going to end up with a shiny new license and nowhere to use it. :innerconf

what do you guys think?

i think that as a new grad, you'll be at the bottom of the pay scale. they'll love you! age, wisdom, dependabiity and a smaller salary!

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you're having finding a good position, cvryder. I have to say that this post (and the replies) is scaring the bejeezers out of me, a very "non-traditional" student. I'm 50 and hoping to start a two-year RN program next fall. Now I'm wondering if I'm just setting myself up for failure. Is ageism really common in nursing? Obviously as a newbie I wouldn't be earning the higher pay that comes with experience, but is that the only reason for this attitude of "get 'em young"? If not, it worries me no end that I'm going to end up with a shiny new license and nowhere to use it. :innerconf

What do you guys think?

I went to nursing school at 50 and have had no problem finding a job. But I think another poster has it right--if you are at the bottom of the pay scale, they don't care so much about age. However, if you are at the top of the pay scale, they find a way to make it a "poor fit".

Oldiebutgoodie

Specializes in Med/Surg; Psych; Tele.
i've been convinced that there is agism in nursing for quite some time, however like you, i cannot prove it. i've seen the older, experienced nurses forced out of their jobs by a new manager determined to "streamline the budget." (i'm sure it's no coincidence that these older nurses are at the top of their payscale!) it's rarely anything overt. instead, they muck about with schedules, vacation times, on call, mandatory overtime and assignments until the older nurse gets frustrated, fed-up and leaves. somehow it's only the older nurses who get targeted, never the newbies at the bottom of their payscale!

hate to say it, but i saw this at my last job. one of my friends, who had been with this same health system for like 15+ years, was 63 and just kept on getting write-ups for stupid things from a relatively new manager.

she finally became so paranoid that she quit with the logic that if she got one more write-up, she would get fired and then lose her retirement.

and then, murphy's law....this poor lady ended up needing colon surgery at the exact time she had put in her notice. the manager was going to try and screw her out of retaining her benefits long enough to get this surgery, but fortunately things turned around. i think he grew a conscience or something, or maybe feared a lawsuit.

i just don't understand it. nursing shortage!! it's all you hear about and then the powers to be make it so difficult for nurses to get employment (and not just older nurses - just browse through this site!).

i think nursing lobbyists need to demand that health care facilities institute some kind of quota or limitation as to how many new grads they can hire or something. this would actually be better for patient care...that is to have x number of seasoned nurses on a unit.

Specializes in Med/Surg; Psych; Tele.

Come to think about it, it would behoove admin/management to hire older nurses for the simple reason that they will be less likely to have little ones at home. Sorry, but they can be a liability from the standpoint of the potential to need to take more time off from work. Why don't they think about that?

And not only that, if they are young and have no kids, they might get stuck with having to pay for a maternity leave. Just thinking from a slimey management point of view here.

To the OP, maybe see if there could be a way "plant that seed", somehow weaving into the interview that work (i.e. not kids) would be a central focus in your life and as another poster mentioned, that you would have a high level of committment (i.e. wanting to stay put for the next 10 or so years, etc.).

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