Are NP online degree frowned upon? - page 4
With the increase in NP online programs, would an employer hesitate to hire a NP that graduated from an online program? In addition, what is the likely hood of this 2015 doctorate law will be... Read More
Sep 1, '13Occupation: DNAP, CRNA, FNP-C,ENP-BC Specialty: 30 year(s) of experience in Anesthesia, Pain, Emergency Medicine, ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '10; Posts: 703; Likes: 545You notice that the person that says the NP boards are easy is NOT even an NP.
They say they can pass the boards with a review book and a week? Really? LOL To funny.
Trauma, some here are obviously here to troll responses. That much is obvious.
When people want to debate and give articles and opinions as fact, you realize they do not understand the scientific process. An adult scientific debate is not possible.
Don't give them a response.
Sep 1, '13Occupation: allnurses Asst Community Manager, APRN Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 53,681; Likes: 26,954Yeah - I gave up trying to reason with posters who proclaim to be experts but in reality are not even students - lol!
Sep 1, '13From: US ; Joined: Jun '13; Posts: 119; Likes: 74Quote from traumaRUsYeah - I gave up trying to reason with posters who proclaim to be experts but in reality are not even students - lol!
I thought you were a CNS not an NP.
Sep 2, '13Occupation: allnurses Asst Community Manager, APRN Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 53,681; Likes: 26,954I am a CNS but in IL the scope of practice is the same. I never proclaimed to be an NP.
Sep 4, '13Occupation: Teacher Specialty: Behavioral health ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '08; Posts: 306; Likes: 308OK how does this account for the quality of graduates from very reputable public universities that have open admissions such as City College of NY?
Back to the original question. I saw candidate get rejected from a position because they graduated from an Ivy League university.
Oct 26, '13Occupation: Super Nurse Specialty: 22 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '07; Posts: 1,483; Likes: 3,457While I agree that quality of education matters I do have 2 cents. In my 20 years in the medical field I have learned that there are many variables to being hired and treated/paid well. When I complete my NP education I will be given a job because enough decision makers like me. They wrote me stellar letters of rec for grad school and one of them did it without being asked. Granted I do a great job but my current position is a far cry from being a provider. I sat in on a meeting where a less qualified candidate was offered a position because they felt "the patients would like her better". She wasn't dangerous as far as her education but she wasn't nearly as sharp as the "less likable" girl. I think remembering to be a well rounded and total package type candidate is very important. My bosses would never hire a jerk from Yale and marketing is huge in my company. I also never hear providers talk about where they went to school. I keep track of all licensed personnel and it is quite the mixed bag. Everything from Ivy league to the Caribbean. This is a billion dollar company FWIW. I just think that people underestimate old fashioned self promotion and networking. Unless you go to one of about 10 schools that EVERYONE has heard of it doesn't make much difference. Do docs in Florida really know which schools in Delaware are the best?Last edit by Conqueror+ on Oct 26, '13 : Reason: sp
Oct 27, '13Occupation: ARNP From: US ; Joined: Oct '13; Posts: 66; Likes: 24All employers care about is: 1. Do you have a license to practice and 2. Experience. No one really cares where you went to school 99% of the time.
Oct 29, '13Occupation: Labor/Delivery Nurse! Specialty: 1+ year(s) of experience in Eventually Midwifery ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '13; Posts: 448; Likes: 442I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. I am not a nurse, will be beginning a nursing program next fall, but I do have graduate level education (from USC east coast).
I really just have 2 points to make.
1. US Weekly rankings = BS
These "rankings" are really just self evaluations of institutions. Faculty and administrators are sent surveys about their school's program and they 'evaluate' it. Could not be a less scientific, nor more biased way to evaluate.
2. Pass rates should weigh more heavily than acceptance rates.
There is a local tech school that has brick and mortar ADN program and is very highly regarded as turning out very well prepared nurses in our community. They accept ANYONE who has the GPA and pre-requisites. That being said, out of each cohort (usually 250 students), usually only 60-70 actually graduate. HOWEVER, they also have a published NCLEX pass rate of 95%.
One thing that I have noticed is that for-profit online institutions do not seem to publish their boards pass rates, and our BON website does not list any for profit online programs under their lists of pass rates for our state.
I realize that I am speaking of an ADN and not APN program, but I feel that it is unfair to nix a school simply based on acceptance rate.Last edit by mamagui on Oct 29, '13 : Reason: left out a word
Oct 29, '13Occupation: Labor/Delivery Nurse! Specialty: 1+ year(s) of experience in Eventually Midwifery ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '13; Posts: 448; Likes: 442From Methodology: Best Health Schools Rankings - US News and World Report
All the health rankings are based solely on the results of peer assessment surveys sent to deans, other administrators, and/or faculty at accredited degree programs or schools in each discipline. All schools surveyed in a discipline were sent the same number of surveys.
Respondents rated the academic quality of programs on a scale of 1 (marginal) to 5 (outstanding). They were instructed to select "don't know" if they did not have enough knowledge to rate a program. Only fully accredited programs in good standing during the survey period are ranked. Those schools with the highest average scores appear in the rankings.
Oct 29, '13Occupation: Labor/Delivery Nurse! Specialty: 1+ year(s) of experience in Eventually Midwifery ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '13; Posts: 448; Likes: 442I discovered their methodology when researching CNM programs....very disappointing
Nov 4, '13Joined: Jun '09; Posts: 18; Likes: 6I really appreciated my in-class experiences. It felt like school because, well, it was school. Personally, I could not have grasped the material and had the dialog with professionals 'in the trenches' online.