Published Aug 2, 2007
holdensjane
92 Posts
I accepted a job offer in May at a hospital I was really interested in. I had several offers for jobs at other places at the time, however, this particular place only gave me 24 hours to respond. FOr so long I've wanted this position, so I accepted afraid that they might rescind the offer. well, I have to say I was VERY thorough at the interview asking almost all foreseeable questions such as administration stability, preceptor incentives, educational resources, etc and even stumped them with many of my questions. I was told I was one of their top candidates. I am set to start the program in september however. It is the lowest paying facility this half of the state, but I figured the experience would be well worth it. I settled with the idea that I would have to keep my parttime job just to make ends meet. In addition, I would have to sit in traffic by five to be there at seven. All that I was fine with, but when I went into human resources, the lady who I introduced herself to me as the manager at our interview and who I've been corresponding with, I found out, was NOT the manager. I asked HR about this when I noticed the supervisor name was foreign to me. I was not impressed by this and by the fact that I found out we had to pay for employee parking based on our salary. Its not the money, its the principle. I've had another offer in the meantime that offers me much higher pay, close to home, at a place I've been working with for a year now as a CNA. Its not in the area I'm interested in but I feel like the circumstances at the hospital where I accepted are not allowing me very much to work with. Plus I figure so what if the area isn't my passion, I can be a nurse in another area and put as much of myself in it as I would at the other hospital. Most people in the world aren't really passionate about their area of work anyway and do just fine. I'm all for going for your hearts' passion, but I'm already frustrated and I haven't even started yet. What is your advice for me, is the specialized training worth the stickin it out? My employment with them is also pending I pass my NCLEX before I start so if I don't they won't take me anyway. Is it unethical for me to change my mind and decline the offer this late in the game? What would you more seasoned nurses recommend?
I don't know if this makes a difference but the offer I accepted was in a specialty ICU and the new offer is on a med/surg floor. And when I was offered the job it was a few months before my actual grad date. and another thing that kinda bugged me, but tell me if this is normal cause i really don't know. During my interview I told them I would not graduate til the summer and they said ok. It would only be one month between my grad date and start of orientation. Well when I called them after I finished school and said that I had to wait until transcripts were released to schedule a testing date so I may not make the first day of orientation deadline to have my license. HR then said they weren't aware of the situation, or I guess hadn't anticipated. I proceeded to tell them that I made my grad date know during my interview, on my resume and on my app. Good thing I got to register in time, otherwise I would have passed up other great offers only to have my offer rescinded and be left with no job.
santhony44, MSN, RN, NP
1,703 Posts
Personally, I don't think it's unethical to decline an offer you've accepted if you haven't started working there yet. Much better to decline now than to start and quit after they've put time and money into training you.
I don't care for the fact that they only gave you 24 hours to respond to an offer; that's not enough time. It's not like they needed you to start the next day!Then the misrepresentation about the manager would also bother me.
I would probably tell them that I've considered the drive, the pay, whatever, and that you don't think it will work for you at this time.
While you may really want the specialized training, I don't think you'd be happy with the job in the long run, everything else considered. Plus, you know the other place and how they treat their employees.
I'd also consider that when you are just starting out as a brand-new nurse (even though you've been a CNA) is not the time to have to work more than one job.
My opinion, anyway.
tddowney
162 Posts
I accepted a job offer in May at a hospital I was really interested in. I had several offers for jobs at other places at the time, however, this particular place only gave me 24 hours to respond. FOr so long I've wanted this position, so I accepted afraid that they might rescind the offer. well, I have to say I was VERY thorough at the interview asking almost all foreseeable questions such as administration stability, preceptor incentives, educational resources, etc and even stumped them with many of my questions. I was told I was one of their top candidates. I am set to start the program in september however. It is the lowest paying facility this half of the state, but I figured the experience would be well worth it. I settled with the idea that I would have to keep my parttime job just to make ends meet. In addition, I would have to sit in traffic by five to be there at seven. All that I was fine with, but when I went into human resources, the lady who I introduced herself to me as the manager at our interview and who I've been corresponding with, I found out, was NOT the manager. I asked HR about this when I noticed the supervisor name was foreign to me. I was not impressed by this and by the fact that I found out we had to pay for employee parking based on our salary. Its not the money, its the principle. I've had another offer in the meantime that offers me much higher pay, close to home, at a place I've been working with for a year now as a CNA. Its not in the area I'm interested in but I feel like the circumstances at the hospital where I accepted are not allowing me very much to work with. Plus I figure so what if the area isn't my passion, I can be a nurse in another area and put as much of myself in it as I would at the other hospital. Most people in the world aren't really passionate about their area of work anyway and do just fine. I'm all for going for your hearts' passion, but I'm already frustrated and I haven't even started yet. What is your advice for me, is the specialized training worth the stickin it out? My employment with them is also pending I pass my NCLEX before I start so if I don't they won't take me anyway. Is it unethical for me to change my mind and decline the offer this late in the game? What would you more seasoned nurses recommend?I don't know if this makes a difference but the offer I accepted was in a specialty ICU and the new offer is on a med/surg floor.
I don't know if this makes a difference but the offer I accepted was in a specialty ICU and the new offer is on a med/surg floor.
Seems like you are having second thoughts about things you knew when you accepted the job, such as pay scale, commute time, etc.
The manager may be different, but people do leave jobs, move to different positions etc. Organizations reorganize and shift job responsibilities and supervisory roles.
Seems like you are having second thoughts about things you knew when you accepted the job, such as pay scale, commute time, etc.The manager may be different, but people do leave jobs, move to different positions etc. Organizations reorganize and shift job responsibilities and supervisory roles.
Well I asked HR about this and the woman said there were no change of positions. She said it was bizarre but she didn't know either.
I did know those things and like I said, I accepted them. I planned on having to take a second job and to make the commute. I just feel that they took advantage of me by only giving me 24 hours to reply, they knew I was not out of school yet. I would not have know that then because I figured thats how it worked. However detailed I was in my interview process, I didn't ask about parking. and to be honest at the rate I'm being paid, I just feel that it is unreasonable for me to implement an employee fee that is per upon salary. and the fact that they didn't even work with me regarding the testing issue with I feel I fully disclosed to them prior. I don't know if unreasonable is the right word but it comes to mind first. I'm just saying, all things given, I've offered a different job that would make life alot easier. All i'm asking is what an experienced RN would recommend to me as far as whats practical and in my best interest. I would LOVE to work in the specialty area, but if it obvious unwise for me to make that decision given the circumstances, I could live with that.
azor
244 Posts
If you feel that place is not convenient at this time be it pay-wise and other things,you can go to the other hospital that treats their employee the best.
When i wanted to start working,i had a place where i would love to work but God doesnt want me to go there.I know cos i did all possible without my zone to see i work there but God had better plans for me so i got interviewed in another place and evertything worked so well and fast that i realized i was wasting my time waiting for the hosp.i feel i like.Now,the hosp.is having financial p[robs that they are retiring their workers and other things and the new hospital that hired me have up to $i more in base pay not to talk of recognizing my previous experience of which the other hosp wouldnt..So,i'll say,relax!!God will work out things for you.
Azor
ee1rn2
26 Posts
Do you think you would ever go work for them in the future? If not, I would not worry too much about rescinding your acceptance. Like tddowney said of ppl changing jobs all the time. Things happen and many variables in our lives can change the present situation. If you don't want to work for them, tell them so now so they can stop all paperwork and start looking for another candidate.
thanks to all for taking the time to reply
GadgetRN71, ASN, RN
1,840 Posts
There is a way to refuse the offer without ticking them off-I wouldn't go into too much detail...simply tell them that circumstances have arisen that would make it difficult to accept their offer. I wouldn't say that you have accepted a job somewhere else.
As far as the specialty thing...I'm a firm believer that you don't necessarily need a mandatory year of med-surg before a specialty...But, the first hospital seems like it has some issues-and maybe Karma is giving you hints that this first place may not be a good fit. Also, I agree with the person who says that the last thing you need is a second job when you are trying to learn, especially in a high acuity area like the ICU. If it were me, I'd take the second offer-you can always get into the ICU at that place...Good luck whatever you decide!