Accepted to a BSN program.......BUT!!!!!Need Info please

Gennaver, MSN · Dec 9, 2007

I just recieved my acceptance letter to one of the top nursing schools in South Carolina. I want to join the Navy Nurse Corps. I am a former Marine. I already have an associates degree in pre-nursing and I had applied to finish my last two years to get my BSN so i can go into the Navy Nurse Corp. When I got my acceptance letter I found out instead of going to nursing school for my last two years, the nursing program told me I had to go for 3 years instead. What kind of programs are out there for me with three years of nursing school left? I need info and advice. I think the NCP is for 2 years only. Can you help please!!!??
Thanks
Kawain

Hello Kawain,

Any time I transferred, (from associates to univeristy then between university) it always seemed like the university needed a year in order to fulfill their individual degree requirements prior to beginning the final two years of clinicals. This is also why people say to check with the exact university that you are going to tranfer to in order to make sure you fulifll all of their total degree requirements, (versus only nursing pre-reqs) prior to transferring.

I do not think you will easily find a university that will let you transfer in and whammo begin the nursing junior and senior years without speaking to several admissions advisors and course counselors). I would call around and let the course advisors/admission counselors know that you are under the NCP, that is, if you actually ARE in the NCP. You might just maybe go on ahead and start that pre-qualifying year at a university while you are applying for the NCP...when I called the Navy about their NCP they told me they were filled up for that year already and to try again for next year. This was during the Spring prior to my final year.

So, yes, there is lots to coordinate.

Go for it!

Gen

Kawain · Dec 9, 2007

Thanks Gen. I am not under the NCP though. I want to be. If not that program (NCP) what other program can I go into the Navy under being that I have to go to school for three years where i will get an allowance and all that good stuff like the NCP?

Kawain

sailornurse · Dec 9, 2007

"I already have an associates degree in pre-nursing "

Just for clarification: I have not heard of such a degree. I myself earned an Associate in Nursing (2 year ADN). I teach at a BSN program and our school has specific pre-requisite course before students can apply for entry.

I am also familiar with the NCP & you have to be accepted to get the stipends, must be junior, have, I believe a 3.0 gpa. I may not have all the current details, have had 2 students commissioned as Navy Nurses, one is currently in the NCP, one former student just comissioned. Call the nearest Navy Nurse recruiter for help.

Good Luck:welcome:

Kawain · Dec 10, 2007

My Degree Is Associates Degree Prenursing. That is what it states on the dipolma. All it was is me completeing all my prereqs for a four year nursing program in north carolina at a community college but i moved to south carolina and the bsn program i got accepted to in south carolina told me i was accepted but i had to take some extra classes. I didnt want a associates degree in nursing because i can do more with a bsn and to me it was wasting time by getting the associates in nursing. hope this helps sailor nurse

HeartsOpenWide, RN · Dec 10, 2007

Most BSN schools are three additional year; regardless of having an AS degree. The program itself is THREE years not including the classes you have to have just for your degree through the college; if you are going to a state college like me you will have to take 9 upper division units in addition to your nursing classes. Getting a BSN does not mean you just take university classes in addition to what an ASN nurse takes; you take a whole extra year of NURSING classes that they do not such as leadership and community nursing. Unless you get into some accelerated program, which I am not entirely sure how they work, you will be looking at about three years for your program. The program I am in now just changed (not for my class but all the students after me) to a five semester from a six semester. They were able to do this because so many of our patients are geriatric anyway so they are cutting that part out of the program completely and re-rearranging everything else.

Gennaver, MSN · Dec 10, 2007

"I already have an associates degree in pre-nursing "
Just for clarification: I have not heard of such a degree. I myself earned an Associate in Nursing (2 year ADN). I teach at a BSN program and our school has specific pre-requisite course before students can apply for entry.
I am also familiar with the NCP & you have to be accepted to get the stipends, must be junior, have, I believe a 3.0 gpa. I may not have all the current details, have had 2 students commissioned as Navy Nurses, one is currently in the NCP, one former student just comissioned. Call the nearest Navy Nurse recruiter for help.
Good Luck:welcome:

:)

Hi, a degree that is Pre-Anything is any degree which concurrently fulfills pre-reqs for that degree.

My Associate of Allied Health Sciences with a major in Biology was a pre-nursing degree. My Bachelor's of Sociology with a minor in Psychology was a pre-nursing degree in that both degrees were complete with their own requirements PLUS the core requirements for a nursing degree and also qualified me for acceptance to my RN program. My MS nursing program was also a pre-doctoral degree in that it qualified me for the PhD program which I hope to start this upcoming January.

I am taking liberties in calling it a pre-professional degree just as Pre-medicine, Pre-law, Pre-dentristry and Pre-anything...I think nursing should be more than just a "license without an academic connotation" but, should have a professional level recognition.

Edit: wait? You teach at a univesity with an Associate's degree? Wow, I thought that a nursing professor needed to have a master's at a minimum?

Gen

sailornurse · Dec 10, 2007

:)
hi, a degree that is pre-anything is any degree which concurrently fulfills pre-reqs for that degree.
i understand that, but it does not mean that it will be "useful" anywhere but a particular university that may have an "articulation agreemnent" meaning they will accept all courses taken at certain community colleges. it may not help at other universities in other states.
iedit: wait? you teach at a univesity with an associate's degree? wow, i thought that a nursing professor needed to have a master's at a minimum?
you are correct, i do have a msn/fnp. but i started out as lpn. fyi-the military currently requires a bsn for nurse corps officers. i was navy nurse 89-92, the navy was taking adn's, bringing them in as warrant officers, with stipulation that they would earn the bsn, but i think they did away with this program. the army used to take adn's in the reserves but i am not sure what the rank (?sgt?) or any other requirements for this.

fyi-the bsn program i teach at is 4 semesters after completing 4 semesters of pre-reqs, it used to be 5 semesters. we adjusted the courses, but for example: the first nursing semester is 18 credits, most are 15-16 credtis, including the clinical hours. fulltime is considered 12 credits.
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Gennaver, MSN · Dec 11, 2007

:)
hi, a degree that is pre-anything is any degree which concurrently fulfills pre-reqs for that degree.
i understand that, but it does not mean that it will be "useful" anywhere but a particular university that may have an "articulation agreemnent" meaning they will accept all courses taken at certain community colleges. it may not help at other universities in other states.
hi, well, not really, a degree is helpful for more than an exact transfer agreement to one particular scool, it seems we are havign two different conversations.
iedit: wait? you teach at a univesity with an associate's degree? wow, i thought that a nursing professor needed to have a master's at a minimum?
you are correct, i do have a msn/fnp.

ah, that makes sense, you'd only mentioned your asn before
but i started out as lpn.

fyi-the military currently requires a bsn for nurse corps officers.

yes, i am aware, i am an army nurse. they do take adn nurse corps officers in the army reserves however
i was navy nurse 89-92, the navy was taking adn's, bringing them in as warrant officers, with stipulation that they would earn the bsn, but i think they did away with this program. the army used to take adn's in the reserves but i am not sure what the rank (?sgt?) or any other requirements for this.

fyi-the bsn program i teach at is 4 semesters after completing 4 semesters of pre-reqs, it used to be 5 semesters.
ah, four semesters, then i figure they must already have everyting else complete with their degree. my clinical portion was two years for my masters entry and the clinical portion took the same time at all three schools i was contemplating my rn degree at, (one was at saint xavier univerity for the bs entry to rn, another was prairie state college for the associates entry to rnand finally was depaul for the ms entry.

we adjusted the courses, but for example: the first nursing semester is 18 credits, most are 15-16 credtis, including the clinical hours. fulltime is considered 12 credits.
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cheers,
gen

tirzo13 · Dec 12, 2007

Schools don't all have the same time to completion.

I believe there is a school in Philadelphia that is for non nurses, and they go full time for 18 months straight for a BSN.

My A/P study partner went to that school after finishing up his science's.

There are MSN programs here in california for non nurses with a BA/BS in another field, they also go 18 months.

I'm a ADN, the program that i'm starting in Jan. for my BSN is going to take me about 2 years, its 41 units, beyond what i have now from my ADN.

you just have to check out all the schools, and perhaps even consider leaving your area.