abused nurse...HELP!!!

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hi, i am so frustrated i dont know where to turn, then i found this great forum for nurses. i need advice. i am in a critical care unit just turned trauma. stress is high as it is. problem is, a nurse in my unit hates life, hates me, and hates weekenders which i am one of. no matter what i do or say, she verbally attacks me to my face and behind my back.

for example: LAST STRAW

last shift, i had 2 pts. our ratio is a nurse for every 2 patients.

i sent pt one to the OR for surgery approx. 3 pm. 2nd pt. i extubated and he died, a no code. she came on at 3 pm which is the last 4 hours of my shift. i work 7a-7p. she put the charge nurse up to asking me to take another fresh post op pt coming through the door. i said i already have 2 patients to the charge nurse. she immediately yelled across the nursing station "You dont have ANY patients!" I blankly looked at her and said "im sorry but i have 2 patients." I have post mortum care to do, (with all the calls and paperwork) and my other patient is going to be back anytime from the OR and I will be recovering him.

Comment from her, "You don't have any patients now, and you are not going to sit on your ass with your nose in the schedule book while we take another pt." (i was copying my new schedule into my planner so i know when i am working, which took 2 minutes, which i hadn't had time to do the last 4 days i worked.)

this certain person memorizes everyone elses schedule and can tell you who worked what holliday 10 yrs ago. :(

I said I was not going to take three patients when other nurses had one. Her next comment was "GO ahead, dont take it. i am going to write you up for refusing to take the assignment." i immediately went to the nurse managers office, and told her if she thought it is my place to take this patient, i will, but i am tired of getting verbally attacked by this nurse and being shit on.

she went to the unit and assigned the new pt to the charge nurse who had 1 pt at the time. as it turned out, i finished the death care at 7 pm and my other pt returned from the OR at the same time. in the meantime, she is going behind my back to other nurses working saying snide comments under her breath ie. "I'm going to punch her" "i am going to lay one on her" this is what i put up with every time i work with her, but when i go to a charge nurse or manager, it always comes back to being my fault.

example, after all this went on last night, everyone else went to supper or break. i asked if everyone else had gone, so i could take a break. i had only taken one 10 minute break at 10 am and lunch 20 minutes at 130 pm. it was now 5:00. as soon as i asked, privately to the charge nurse, she (with her big ears) yelled from a patient room, go ahead, they can PAY ME for MY lunch break! I did not go to break and quietly resumed my work.

5 minutes later, i am called to the nurse managers office. she told me to sit down, and she looks at me and asks "How many breaks have you had since 3 pm?" I blankly looked at her and said "None"??? She said that other nurse had just been in her office complaining that she did not go to supper and i want to take another break, and just had one after 3 pm. I said I had not had a break since lunch at 130. well that is not what I was told she said. i said i only had 30 minutes off the floor in the 10 hours i had already worked, and at 3 pm my patient just died and i was dealing with a distressed family and the pastoral care dept. she said i dont know who is telling the truth. RRRAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!

now she wants the 3 charge nurses to meet with me and this other nurse in private. i dont want to. she is going to lie and yell more at me, and i am not up to it. no matter what i do or say, she will get away with it. many other nurses have been verbally abused by her and have reported it, and nothing is done.

i am ready to find another job. i love my job, and the patient care that i am doing. i am a christian, and i do not get involved in the gossip and back biting sessions, which she leads on a regular basis. then the ones that they are cutting up so bad walk in and she is buddy buddy with them. it makes me sick in my heart.

monday i am thinking about calling the er manager about a position there, but i feel like i am giving her what she wants.

i just dont think i can mentally handle this anymore. this was just one example of what goes on constantly with her. i do not egg it on, most the time, i am talking to someone else quietly, when she hears and chimes in. her house burned recently and i donated 20 dollars to her, and even called her to see if she needed anything ie. uniforms. i have gone out of my way to be nice and show a christian attitude. HELP should I change jobs or stay there. would you meet with her. what should i do. i am so unhappy and frustrated.

I've been reading this thread and it makes me sick. I have also been a target of harassment. It's good that you are looking at other options, your mental health needs to be a priority. However, since you were physically threatened, if I were you I would keep going up the chain of command and telling anyone who will listen that you were threatened on the job and don't feel safe working with this person in this hostile work enviornment. (The EEOC deals with harassment and hostile work enviornment issues) I would do this regradless of whether I thought she would make good on her threat to punch me. Absolutely, go to the meeting and confront her, plan in advance what you will say. go in with something written, document everything that goes on. Make sure you are heard before you move on out of that unit.

I realize that this is easy for me to be a troublemaker from several states away. Think of how the issue of child abuse has changed over the years. Today, the child is believed when he/she claims abuse instead of being told that the abuse is their fault or not being believed. This was not the case in the past. As nurses, (in my state) we have legal duties take seriously and act on suspicions of abuse, child, domestic, elder, etc. Harassment, verbal abuse, and threats are just as abusive and damaging as physical violence. If we can advocate against abuse for our patients, what will it take to make it politically correct not to tolerate abuse in the workplace?. Abuse can only thrive in an enviornment of secrecy, looking the other way, pretending it doesn't exist, and blaming the victim.

Good luck in whatever you decide. Thanks for the chance to give back some of the support I have received from this site.

You sound like to good a nurse to be wasted in a unit that sounds really disturbed. That nurse should find a different position or career. Unfortunately there are always people like that, and you have to look deep into those reasons why people behave like that if you wish to stay in your job. What I do, is to smile and laugh at the person, obviously not too there face, but when you go to the bathroom for example. I guess it sounds like that nurse has the opinion that a deceased patient is not a patient, and should not be cared for, with the dignity that they would deserve, what just because they dont put the call light on every five minutes etc. Dealing with death and dying is incredably time consuming, and she has to remember that the patients family payes her salary, and thus is her employer. It really annoys me when people (nurses) are pains in the a**s

Hang in there. Follow all good solid advice. Change if you need to. Life is too short!!!!!

Kudos, VAC!!!!! Well written and great advice. I am going to put it down and keep for reference and support for myself. VAC, are you sure you are not already an author, lawyer, etc. You are very talented and have another career, talents just waiting for you if you ever changed from nursing!!!!! But don't change from nursing, your patients need you!!!!! your cuz

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I feel your pain. When I was a brand new nurse I worked on a surgical floor full of old-timers who were buddies, both in and out of the hospital. I didn't fit in their click and my life became a living hell. Soured me on clinical nursing for a very long time. It makes you doubt your skills and abilities as a nurse, even if you are completely blameless.

My advice, go ahead with the transfer. In case you're living under a rock you'll notice there is a tremendous nursing shortage in this country. There is no need to put up with such nonsense. I would venture to say that most of us became nurses because we are good natured souls and genuinely want to help people (please don't wake me up if I'm wrong). Go where you can do some good and remember why you chose this most noble of professions.

PS- Three words: Hostile Work Environment. There is not reason in the world to put up with it. State and Federal law prohibit it and I would make a bee line to HR. Make sure there is a record of your complaint. Only what's documented can be proven.

Take care.

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i agree, i would leave as well. why not? it is clear she has the nm eating out of her hand and that is not going to change anytime soon. you will be the fall guy if anything happens count on it.

i know the other girls have urged you to go to hr, i encourage you to not do that, at least until you are off the floor. i can guarentee you that move will blow up in your face. nm despise nothing more than someone going over their head. even with, what sounds like a legitamite case, you will loose. i say that because i have seen it happen in the past---more thatn once. you might get her reprimanded (doubtful), but you as the victim will pay the price. managers talk.

PhantomRN speaks the truth........Remember no one could be operating this out of control without others being aware...It's obviously not causing them any distress...So they already like the one causing you all the grief...Politically they will side with her....This could even escalte into trumped up accusations even putting your license in jeopardy.Any nurse that wold be muttering threats of physical violence will continue to bully and intimidate you until she "WINS"....If you are into a different floor..be very careful on how you conduct yourself...go out of your way for awhile to show that you are NOT lazy and are a team player..It's likely that the people on the new floor already got wind of the other drama,and are looking to form their own opinions...You at least have some control over their perception of you and your work...These are just some of the issues that are not addresed in nursing school..and probably have more far reaching outcomes on the profession than anyones ability to assess lung sounds or do a dressing change!!!! Far more of my mental energy gets spent on the sorting of the politics..I rarely come home and mull over clinical skills or lab values...Its always the politics that I come home and vent over...I also think this may be fallout from "THE SHORTAGE" alot of the crappy ones have remained..When there is an excess of canidates it's easier to weed out the idiots..With the conditions now they seem to flourish.There is no one to challenge their behavior..Honey,just move on......:p

To quote the great Curtis Mayfield,

Move on up towards your destination........

May God be between you and all the dark places.

Take care.

I understand not wanting to be run off of a job, especially one you like. BUT how much do yo really like it, with this person there? I know if it was not for her it would probably be wonderful. The fact is she comes with this particular job. The fact is it is not wonderfu with her there; it is hell.

I think you really mean you love critical care nursing. You can nurse other places. If you stay there; if you try to fight this, you will suffer in ways that you may regret. Leave now while you have the good references of you co workers. There are other places that you can love without this.

Wether you should have had time to take another pt or not should not be the isssue. If you are slow (and I doubt it) you are slow. AACCN says to assign pts acording to the abilities of the nurse.

Reguardless there is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE what so ever for ANYONE treating you like this. And for another RN doing it it is more than shameful.

Leave as diplomatically as you can but leave. By the way a note to all: the diplomacy is not to be nice and protect the agressor; it's for your own professional protection and image. It is only too easy to say or do somthing that you may later regret if leave with explanations. It is seldom that explaination is not already understood. And where it is not understood you explanation will not make it clearer to them. Be aware that exit interviews and are not for your benefit. They are to benefit the employer. You do not owe an explaination to any employer who allows this to happen to anyone in there employ. (you are NOT obligated to an exit interview) Just be careful when you leave and do it quietly with dignity. Nursing is a small world and critical care is even a smaller world. You will probably run into some of the same people who you now work with later. They will understand when you go. Be sure that you leave a positive memory with them for when you meet again.

Dear Unhappy Nurse,

I am saddened to hear your situation right now. I think as others have advised that it may be time to move on. I don't think any job is worth soo much anguish. It is hard when you like what you do and the surroundings are familiar but, there are basic skills a nurse has that are the same everywhere, caring and compassion for the patients. You may find a job in the ICU at another facility where you are respected and appreciated then you will have the best of both worlds.

I had a similiar situation when I was an OR tech, till finally for my own sanity I had to leave. I decided to start working on pre-requisites for nursing school and took a position at the same hospital on the med-surg floor as a nursing assistant. My DON was soo understanding I couldn't believe it. The OR was not run by her. She allowed me to make the change and it was like I worked at a different hospital. I have to also say this was a very small hospital and everyone knew everyone. They accepted me on the floor even though some were good friends with those in the OR who were so unaccepting of me. I worked in that OR for 4 years until I no longer could.

I have to also add what goes around does come around and I had the opportunity to go back there as an RN for a short time and I had to fill in one night for the tech that hated me so because she was no where to be found! The look on her face when she got there and saw me was priceless. When I left the room everyone said thank you Denise it was good to see you back here in the OR again thanks for your help.

I have never worked in the OR again, not because of this experience but, because I liked other areas of nursing better. I still think I may go back to it someday. I have to say though I will never forget the experience and everytime I have to make a move I am leary of the people, until I see how it goes. I work in an ER now and there are many strong personalities but, so far nothing comes close to what I endured there. I have also learned that I will never stay at a job where I feel like I am abused ever! It is not worth the mental anguish. On a more positive note, I can honestly say that I have in my short time had to change jobs frequently due to my husbands work and career opportunities for myself and 95% of it has been that I have met wonderful nurses willing to share thier experience and appreciate having you there!

I hope this helps. Have a wonderful holiday! I wish you all the joy, success, and satisfaction in your career this year and many more to come!

Denise

:) :) :) I GOT THE JOB IN THE ER!!! Thanks so much for ALL your help everyone!!!! I am so relieved! I start the first week of January, but already I feel the weight lifted off of my shoulders! The new ER manager said she asked around about me in order to make her decision on who to hire (There were 7 applicants) and she said she heard only GOOD things about me so the position is 100% mine if I want it! I did not hesitate! My present manager asked if I was leaving because of the problems, and I told her YES. That is all that was said, and she wished me well. I have gotten many hugs from friends I work with and they all understand. :) :)

Yipee!!! It makes me happy for you....Merry Christmas..or at least Happy Holidays

Yippee!! Cry hosanna and let joy be unconfined!!

Well done and fair play to you for your new post!

Time to kick off the dust from your heels of an old, oppresive regime and start anew. Cool.

May you thrive and do nothing but good.

Take care.

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