A majority of Americans would tolerate higher taxes to help pay for universal health

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Six in 10 people surveyed say they would be willing to repeal tax cuts to help pay for a health-care program that insures all Americans.

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Most of the highest income group polled, those in households earning more than $100,000, support it. While more than eight in 10 Democrats say they like the plan, most Republicans oppose it.

Most of the highest income group polled, those in households earning more than $100,000, support it. While more than eight in 10 Democrats say they like the plan, most Republicans oppose it.

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An agenda focused on health care and education spending would be better for the economy than returning money to taxpayers through tax cuts, she said: ``In the end it would cut costs.''

By 52 percent to 36 percent, Americans favored health and education spending as a better economic stimulus than tax cuts

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&refer=home&sid=a2TWmuh3vHHI accessed today.

Yeah... even though I consider myself pretty liberal in my own right, I'm very non-partisan and I will vote for whoever I think will get the job done. Republican, Democrat, Independent or even Green...

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Please tell me who is more selfish. Those who continually pay a greater burden of the taxes in this country or those who continually reap those taxes without contributing to them?

Your right they are too selfish and don't care if some people can't make a desent living. It is just more important that they live high on the hog.
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It won't be only slightly higher try double or triple. Are you willing to pay that? Be careful what you ask Hillary for you just may get it.

I'd rather pay slightly higher taxes for National Universal Health Care than what I'm paying right now for Aetna HMO.
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It won't be only slightly higher try double or triple. Are you willing to pay that? Be careful what you ask Hillary for you just may get it.

Well... I would go for it if it seemed reasonable to me... obviously if it's going to triple what I'm already paying in taxes at more cost than what I'm already spending now for health insurance... then of course I wouldn't endorse it... also if it didn't seem like a logical thing for the majority of the middle-class... and even those below the poverty line, what is the point in having it at all?

But I believe it can work, if they do it correctly. I know in Germany (which has a higher cost-of-living than the US btw) has Universal Health Care and it works well. My sister can attest to that, she has more medical issues than anyone in my family. (My family is from Germany, however I live with foster parents in the US... long story.) I think what we should be concentrating on first, however, is the fact that the income-gap hasn't been this wide since the 1930's.

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On second thought...

I don't know... it's tough. The government can't set money aside because there is already so much in SS, which by any chance probably won't be there by the time I reach retirement. The national debt is excess of 9 trillion so the only logical thing to do would raise taxes. But how much would it actually cost to insure the entire population of the US? Is it even possible for UHC to work, if not by taxing it's citizens? I think it's one of those situations that is ideal... and has worked for other countries in the past and may work for the US in the future, but since we have let it go on for so long, I don't think it's possible or even prudent. I think if we concentrate on the income gap, those who have no insurance would be able to afford it. And those who still would not be able to, there should be some sort of plan in place the ensure that everyone's well being is taken care of... unless you think like a Darwinist or believe in population control... but that's a horse of a whole different color.

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It won't be only slightly higher try double or triple. Are you willing to pay that?
Source for doubling/trebling our taxes if a universal or single-payer plan is enacted. Thanks.
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I guess vitriol is in the eye of the beholder. I find CRNA's posts refreshingly honest.

But not based on fact. At least the ones I've read so far.

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what costs the consumer more? Profit to insurance companies? Or waste, fraud, and abuse by the Federal Governement. Need we be reminded of the $600 hammer or the $900 toilet seat? What cheap shots are you referring too? Or is that one of the left's typical diversionary tactics when you cannot stand by your ideas with facts?

You're the one using diversionary tactics. Strawman arguments get you nowhere.

Now. Can you tell us what your objections are to single-payor national health insurance?

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Source for doubling/trebling our taxes if a universal or single-payer plan is enacted. Thanks.

I guess this would be a good time to find sources for my info too.

Income Gap

National Debt

Social Security/Medicare going Bankrupt

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Please tell me who is more selfish. Those who continually pay a greater burden of the taxes in this country or those who continually reap those taxes without contributing to them?

Just to clarify your post here... are you saying that only those who pay taxes should reap the benefits from those taxes?

Careful ;)

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Well, throughout this debate we are talking about single payor.

I think that one issue is that health insurance is basically linked to employment, which is a bad idea.

So, how can we "unlink" it?

1. National Health insurance

2. Give it all to the free market, and let everybody duke it out.

3. Maybe set up groups that aren't based on employers? What about groups underwritten per state?

Frankly, I'm not nuts about National Health Insurance, or the free market. If somehow groups could be underwritten that aren't linked to employment, that would spread out the risk. Unfortunately, I am not a policy wonk, so this is about as far as I go...

Interesting debate, however.

Oldiebutgoodie

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I have a question.

Are insurance companies on the private or public market (can I buy stock in... say... Aetna)? And would it help if they were public if they aren't... would it hurt if they were made private? This is just a question for my general knowledge and to add a new facet to the debate.

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