Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. World General World Article

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system.

The Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you when it is time for an assessment or for treatments or for meds. When a member of the Royal Family is admitted to a unit he/she is accompanied by a minimum of 3 and up to 14 servants. This includes a private nurse. You will get to know this nurse well because you do not administer the meds, but rather give them to the private nurse who gives them to the patient.

There is a high degree of racial prejudice against persons of color, South Africans, Hindus, and Filipinos, in this hospital. They are not allowed to work in the Complex of the Royal Family. A nurse with an American passport is considered white and is highly sought after. Co-workers will go to the American nurse and take her along with them when they want to communicate a plan of treatment to a family member of a patient. She is introduced as an American nurse and does the speaking for the co-worker.

The lifestyles of the Royal Family have contributed to staggering poor health. By the time they are 40-50 years old, you will find patients in this unit, male and female, have osteoporosis from lack of activity. By the time they reach 50 most of these patients have often given up on life because they have nothing to do except indulge themselves. It is sad to see them on heparin because they choose to stay in bed. They can be observed sleeping all day and eating all night. Since they are royal, you cannot tell them what to do or how to do it, even if it is for their own good. A patient may be on an insulin drip for a week while gorging on food the whole time. These patients have an inordinate amount of cancer and genetic disorders, and one in three are diabetic. It is not unusual to see a handsome prince, dressed in pristine white, clean and sweet smelling, with a body wasted by muscle atrophy.

An order for DNR does not exist, except on paper. There are upwards of 6,000 members of the Saudi Royal Family. Each one is eligible to receive a share of the Family fortune, as it is doled out. Therefore, the aged and/or infirm are kept alive by all means possible. This hospital houses an entire wing of patients who are in persistent vegetative states or are on vents or other means of artificial life support. As long as they live, their family members have a closer link to the crown and they are eligible for stipends that will be managed by their guardians.

Advantages of working as a nurse in this outpost are notable.

American nurses command the highest rate of pay. Transportation, to and from Saudi for each assignment, is paid. A one year contract can include a 2 week paid vacation. A Re-up bonus for a second year is often offered. There is no Saudi tax to pay and very few living expenses since housing is provided. There may be favorable tax treatment by the IRS as well. Uniforms are provided and will be worn, without covering, only while on duty. At all other times, when in public, a nurse must be covered head to toe with the burka. Segregated swimming pools, tennis courts, and fitness centers, etc. are provided and offer diversion. Taxis or buses are available to provide transportation to leave the complex to go shopping or site-seeing. Everything in the shopping center seems to be made in China. But, the Super Markets are great. There, you will find food from all over the world. You can spend hours just tasting special imports of the best honey, or 28 different kinds of olives on the olive counters. Hint: You might find the sweet olives are horrible. However, you may never have seen such dates. They are to die for.

Disadvantages of going to this outpost need to be pointed out. American nurses are sometimes vulnerable because they can be naive. They have enjoyed the Constitutional protection of a democratic government. They do not always carefully consider that they do not have that same protection when they leave the borders of their homeland. A study of the customs and culture of the country to which they are going is a must. Most important is an understanding of the system of government and laws.

According to the U.S. Department Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2000-2001, this Islamic country is ruled by Sharia Law, and Women's Rights are virtually non-existent. Although a state of world-wide unrest exists with the Radical Islamic countries, because of oil reserves, a policy of appeasement has been adopted by the United States. Americans in Saudi Arabia must depend on this fragile relationship to continue in order to have a semblance of safety while they are in that country. It is important to know the facts and not live in the romantic fantasy of The Arabian Nights.

In Saudi Arabia, the government seems to be made up of a system of checks and balances. The Royal Family controls the money. Money is "Power". The Islamic Radicals are the Rulers because they interpret the Law of Sharia; a system of national laws derived from the Koran and the traditions of Mohammed. The Mutawwa'in are the religious police who are the enforcers of the Law. Religious Law is Civil Law in this country. Because it is interpreted literally, it is enforced without mercy. Sharia Law identifies anyone who is not a Muslim as an Infidel and an enemy. Muslims are specifically ordered to not befriend unbelievers. Mateen Elass explains the implications of this in her book, Understanding the Koran. According to standard Islamic jurisprudence, Sharia Law today interprets the Koran as obligating Muslims to be under the rule of expansionist jihad (holy war). This is understood as an armed struggle against unbelievers, whether or not the Muslim community had been attacked. This is a country that has a history of 1,600 years of revolutions, political assassinations, and massacres, and has ruled it's populace by subjection or death. Today, Arab media often incite Arabs to street rage and violence by feeding misinformation. You will remember that the world witnessed Muslims dancing in the streets, celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center 9/11.

There is a difference, between being a judgmental person and being a person of rational judgment, that is worth remembering. If you choose to go, Saudi Arabia, be careful about how you conduct yourself. Right now, the long arm of the U.S. Embassy gives a sense of safety. However, there are things that you must do to protect yourself from embarrassment, from derision, from humiliation, from attack, and from arrest. Be prepared for unwelcome gazes and advances from the Saudi men while you are working in your uniform. They have been brought up to believe that a woman who does not cover herself is available for sex or is a prostitute. Never accept an invitation to accompany a Saudi man anywhere for the same reason. He has an expectation that you can be bought and because of his wealth may offer very expensive jewels and gifts. Outside of your unit, you will always be covered with a Burka. You will ride in the back of a bus, by Law. You will not get into a Taxi unaccompanied because you cannot be alone with a man. Men and women are separated even in the Marketplace. If you want to buy a cup of coffee in Starbucks, you will go to a segregated area for women. Is Saudi Arabia a good idea for you? Only you can decide.

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Specializes in Operating Room.

YES LIFE IN SAUDI TAKES SOME ADJUSTING BUT I HAVE LIVED AND WORKED HERE SINCE 2004 AND LOVE EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

WE LIVE IN A TOWN JUST ACCROSS THE CAUSEWAY FROM BHARAIN.

IN OUR HOSPITAL ALL THE SENIOR POSTS ARE HELD BY EX PATS, 3FROM SOUTH AFRICA 1 FROM AUSTRALIA,2 FROM THE UK AND 1 FROM SWEDEN.

WHEN WE GO SHOPPING WE ARE ASKED ONLY TO WEAR AN ABAYA. WE NEED NOT EVEN WEAR A HEAD SCARF.

WEEKENDS ARE FILLED WITH FUN AND LAUGHTER.

I THINK SAUDI ARABIA IS AOLWAYS A GOOD IDEA

AS WITH ANY HOSPITAL PATIENTS SOME ARE DIFFICULT AND MOST ARE VERY GREATFUL.:nurse:

do they hire male rns in al hada military hospital? my wife applied and she got only a nurse aide position which pays 1500 SR. i'm hopefully waiting for my job offer.

i would appreciate it if you guys could enlighten me.:D

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.

Uniforms are provided and will be worn, without covering, only while on duty. At all other times, when in public, a nurse must be covered head to toe with the burka.

I think the author means chador (a head scarf that can range from collar-length to ankle-length) or niqab (basically, a coat). Burqas are only worn in Afghanistan.

I attended junior high with a girl whose father had worked for Aramco. Her family lived in Saudi for 2 years. The Aramco compound was like an military base, with stores, churches, and other small-town touches, Off the compound, the women had to dress from head to toe in black (chador and niqab). She hated it.

I don't think I could work in Saudi. First of all, I'm Black. Second, employers like to keep employees' passports, in case of on-the-job problems. Third, if I need a bead, I can't just grab my passport and head to Jerusalem, Paris, or London without my husband's permission.

Specializes in medical-surgical, ophthalmology nurse.

i have worked in Saudi for more than three years and what you have mentioned in your article is true. There are male nurses from middle east i even worked with a Jordanian male nurse but i never had any experience working with a Saudi male nurse.Saudi female nurses in general are lazy and they are not allowed to take care of male patients. The Saudi doctors most of them are trained in other countries like Canada, UK and US. Many middle east doctors (Syrian for example) who have changed his citizenship and passport (UK or US passport holders) command highest salary. In fairness there are many Intelligent Saudi doctors both men and women but probably because they have an easy and pampered lifestyle they don't work hard as others will do.

Thanks for the article! And thanks to the Saudi nurses that are willing to give relevant, up-to-date information!! I am looking into going to SA and would love to hear from single, American nurses as to what the living conditions are like and how many other foreign nurses work with you? Are you received by the SA nurses and have you been able to integrate into the culture since you're on the hospital compound?

thanks for sharing...that is something i might be interested in doing! thanks a lot. :jester:

God, you are so brave to go there. What an adventure, certainly worth writing a book about it some day after you come home. I have been to Iraq (Army) and have travelled to Quatar and Kuwait (Also Morocco....trying to think of places where westerners are not exactly highly esteemed...) The glances from people there are unnerving, and I never could shake the feeling that I had to walk on egg shells, never let my guard down. That is not ignorance of culture. That's just plain reality! After travelling many places, I have to say that I defer back to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz...."Everything you ever really need is right in your own back yard....There's no place like home!" Wishing you strength, safety and peace!

Specializes in Operating Room.

In my unit, OR, I have 6 male nurses. Two Saudi, one Indian and, two Egyptions. They are all hard working enthusiastic and eiger to advance themselves. They gladly share their knowledge and help the younger, less expierienced staff. I also have 3 Saudi female trainees. They work as hard as the rest of us and put in their share of overtime. They are eiger and enthusiastic about the education program and research their own topics for their turn at teaching. Please remember that there are lazy nurses from all nationalites.

Specializes in Home Care, Primary care NP, QI, Nsg Adm.

I am from the states and a DON in an addiction/mental health facility in Dammam. We have about 250 nurses with approximately 210 male staff. My nurses come from Egypt, Tunisia, Philippines, India, Sudan and over the past 2 years, Saudi. The trend now is to hire Saudi staff.

A serious issue is the level of training. Most, if not all who have posted from Saudi work in the higher grade hospitals and these hospitals generally do not hire the level of staff I have. Many of my staff, particularly the Egyptians did nursing training as a technical high school and in Saudi they are classed as 'technicians' by the Saudi Council for Health Specialties. Professional nurses are western (dip, ADN, BSN and up), other countries at the BSN level. Egypt has BSN and grad level nurses but that is just now opening for men. Sudan and India have the same level of nurses with BSN and higher also in India.

Technical nurses are considered by the ICN and WHO as similar to the LPN level but frankly, some of my staff are not close to that.

A problem now in saudi are the many private nursing insitutes that are spewing out 2 year diploma nurses. In my experience no one fails. I do pre-employment exams allowing for a 60% pass rate and some fail that but passed their programs. These nurses are having difficult times finding employment which is not surprising.

In this mix I have some very good nurses. Character means alot to me. A person can lack skills but have a beautiful character, be motivated, sincere with integrity. These people want to excell and one of my responsibilities is to help them to do so and they do with the proper attention, training and encouragement.

I have also had some very difficult individuals that tried their best to apply their 'own rules' but we have prevailed to date because first we behave professionally and don't use underhanded tactics and second because I have excellent support from the hospital director and administration. We have managed to set a few individuals 'straight' but with quite a bit energy expended in doing so but it was worth it.

A problem in the system itself is what I believe is a sense of entitlement that creates two classes in the work place; Saudi and non-Saudi. For example, in the MOH Saudis get paid time of for CE, foreign staff do not. This can create moral problems and a two tiered system leaving some nurses feeling less than enthusiatic about their work. Another area I concentrate on in my leadership position is narrowing this gap and in some ways not allowing a gap to exist at all.

In the end, it is true, there are good and bad in all groups of people. The system needs a great of nurturing and their are many factors that one must understand and deal with in order to successfully navigate as a leader and anyone working here long enough will understand what I mean.

While nursing training in the States is some of the best in the world, I find it interesting to read issues presented on Allnurses and the ANA nurses network regarding serious issues with nursing managers and other behavior anonmolies that reveal that character and personality issues occur in every place making for undesirable working conditions.

Specializes in NICU.

Just a matter of loving your work as well as the workplace in order to make ksa a good idea.i''ve been here for 20 yrs as a nurse, and so proud to work in one of the most prestigious hosp. In riyadh.

Good article with great information. Only thing is that Mateen Elass is a male Presbyterian minister in Oklahoma, USA and not female.

AS WITH ANY HOSPITAL PATIENTS SOME ARE DIFFICULT AND MOST ARE VERY GREATFUL.:nurse:

Talking about rude patients in the US!